Posted on 09/30/2005 7:42:20 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Judge Orders 17-Year-Old Girl Not To Have Sex
POSTED: 10:16 am EDT September 30, 2005
SHERMAN, Texas -- No sex. That's part of a sentence imposed on a 17-old-girl by Texas state district judge Lauri Blake.
She's ordered the young drug offender not have sex as long as she is living with her parents and attending school, as a condition of her probation.
It is one of several unorthodox rulings Judge Lauri Blake has imposed since she was elected 10 months ago in the district court that covers Fannin and Grayson counties.
She has also prohibited tattoos, body piercings, earrings and clothing "associated with the drug culture" for those on probation.
Lawyers are also subject to her rulings. Blake has the told female attorneys not wear sleeveless shirts or show cleavage in her courtroom.
Blake agreed to an interview but later declined through her court coordinator.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnbc.com ...
That will hold up on appeal...
Who is going to check to see if she is having sex? and who is going to pay to find out if she is having sex?
Looks like to me that this self-righteous judge is pandering for votes.
By the time an appeal goes through, it won't matter.
Maybe the judge is doing his job. I doubt he needs to "pander" for votes. Judges often attach special conditions to probation. If she doesn't like it, she can always go to jail. If it was my daughter, I would be very happy with the judge.
Seems to be in direct conflict with the recent ruling by the Oregon Sup Ct that public sex is a protected form of expression and therefore not to be prohibited in any way. I can hear the TX ACLU chomping at the bit on this one.
Also, it's not always the parents' fault. Some people are always going to do what they want to do and no one is going to stop them.
If she is one of those, she WILL land in hot water.
Judges should tell people when (or when not) to have sex? Judges are in charge of who can have a tattoo?
Do we love judicial activism so much that we want it down to such low level personal decisions? Be aware: I hope the girl follows the judge's advice -- it's good advice. But not something I think should be handed down by a court of law.
Again who is gonna check and see if she is?
Who is gonna prove is she is or not?
Who is gonna pay for the checkups you and me?
Pandering
How can that possibly be Constitutional? I mean, I know it's feel-good and moral and all. But what about when judges on the other side come up with moonbat rulings like the defendent is required to read Karl Marx or something? Judges don't have the power to stop people from having sex. And if they do, they shouldn't.
Oh well. I'm sure she'll be fine now.
How can she ever get an abortion if she doesn't have sex? Silly judge.
How do they actually know if she's having sex?
Solitary confiement would satisfy all these requirements.
You obviously don't know much about probation, which is probably a good thing.
Under probation a judge can attach special conditions. If she wasn't on probation he couldn't. Simple really.
""How can that possibly be Constitutional? I mean, I know it's feel-good and moral and all. But what about when judges on the other side come up with moonbat rulings like the defendent is required to read Karl Marx or something? Judges don't have the power to stop people from having sex. And if they do, they shouldn't.""
I believe you are missing the issue - the defendent has 2 options, to go to jail (juvenule detention?) or to remain free under conditions set by the judge. There are conditions to either option. It is up to the girl.
Looks like to me that this self-righteous judge is pandering for votes
I tell my 16 year old daughter not to have sex and I'm not a judge pandering for votes. In fact I think this judge has great courage giving this ruling knowing that that some anti-family lawyer will try to overturn it on appeal.
who cares what an oregon socialist MASTER says - this is TEXAS!
"But mom, everybody's getting these drug-culture tattoos and piercings. You people are so square and I can't wait to move out!"
"Looks like to me that this self-righteous judge is pandering for votes."
You know when the election is, then. Please share it with us. I will support this judge.
Parents should and do. In this case, the State is acting in the place of the parent for the good of the child.
While the ruling is practically unenforceable, so are many parental "rulings." Silence would be seen as consent, so the State is justified in speaking out.
Condition of probation. I imagine the yout' could always decline the terms of probation and remain in jail.
What if the judge orders the girl not to vote Republican as a condition? Or if the judge orders an abortion? Are you cool with that, too? Or are you only cool with this because it has a feel-good moral flavor mixed in with the judicial activism?
The judge is not the parent
pandering
I tell my Three daughters that all the time as well. And If I think they are having sex I will pay to find out if I can.
I sure don't need a judge to tell the taxpayers to pay for the check for me.
pandering
While her rulings are kind of strange, I applaud her for having a dress code in her court room.
This judge has as much legal authority to order to *stop* having sex as she does to order her to *have* sex.
""What if the judge orders the girl not to vote Republican as a condition? Or if the judge orders an abortion? Are you cool with that, too? Or are you only cool with this because it has a feel-good moral flavor mixed in with the judicial activism?""
What if pigs flew out my ass? What if, what, if?????
I think you are being ridiculous. When a judge orders that, then I'll comment on it.
That's true.
Normally when someone is on probation they have to pay a certain amount each month. It certainly isn't a free ride if that's what you are implying. And they also have to pay for drug screens and the like. So you can relax.
Who is gonna check to see if she violates said probation?
Seems to me the judge wouldn't have had to order a damned thing if this girl wouldn't have been in her court. Right?
Presently, judges all across the country can make up any legislation they want and force elected officials to like it.
I'm just pointing out that some of this stuff sticks in my craw. Judges think they are legislators and now they think they are Mommy and Daddy. What they really are is a bunch of oligarchs.
Won't answer the question? I guess then I have to assume you support judicial activism when the judge mimics your ideology.
Do you know anything about conditions of probation?
I answered the question. When a judge orders what you have mentioned, let me know and we can discuss it. You haven't commented on pigs flying out of my ass. Refuse to do so, because it doesn't support your wacko activist agenda here??
If your daughters were on probation, then the judge could set conditions. If they aren't on probation, you have nothing to worry about.
I'm sure the probation fee will cover obgyn fees to see if she is having sex. < /sarc>
Probation is not a right, and, if a judge sees fit to impose it, he/she may impose any condition she wants if it arguably is aimed at preventing illicit behavior. Only if the perp is violated because of this no sex provision and subsequently imprisoned would habeas corpus apply, ergo no immediate appeal. Sorry, libs.
I don't need a judge telling me that my daughters can or cannot have sex.
Just to fit some activist judges adgenda
I'm not the one supporting judicial activism and being a hypocrite. If not wanting judges to impose their own definition of sexual morality as a condition of probation is wacko, then I guess I'm a wacko.
You know me? you know what I do for a living? What my political leanings are? where I live, my address, my health, my financial position, my position on the issues of the day, the ages of my children, how many cars I have?
My religion?
The answer to all of the above is NO, you don't. So, we conclude you know nothing at all about me, yet for some amazing reason you know I "support judicial activism when the judge mimics my idealogy" You are amazing. Ever think about having your own talk show??
Not only in her court, but a convicted, minor in her court.
I get tired of hearing about convicts rights. Convicts give up rights. They do not have the right to freedom, to carry weapons, association, to vote, etc.
A minor can certainly lose the "right" to have intercourse.
What powers does the Oregon State Constitution have over the people of Texas?
Absolutely. Too bad some here can't seem to get it.
Like the joke-- 2 liberals find a man horribly beaten and mugged, lying in a ditch. One looks to the other and says, "we have to find the person who did this, he needs our help"
I am sure we define judicial activism differently. I am positive about it, but to answer your question - I support neither.
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