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Police: Boys Rip Classmates' Clothes Off, Snap Photos
Local6 ^ | 9/27/05

Posted on 09/27/2005 12:22:54 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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Comment #151 Removed by Moderator

To: cripplecreek

lol...


152 posted on 09/27/2005 1:49:32 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: BenLurkin

Were the victims white?


153 posted on 09/27/2005 1:52:29 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: TXBSAFH

I got the belt more than a few times myself. My grandfather had an old razor strop hanging on the wall behind his chair tha made a lot of noise when he smacked it on his hand. I never saw that old thing used but it was a great argument ender for mouthy kids.


154 posted on 09/27/2005 1:53:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Baynative
http://www.lkwdpl.org/lfiles/vlosich/gallery.html

Check out this guy's etch-a-sketch art.

155 posted on 09/27/2005 1:54:59 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: indcons
Shoot the bustards....they will continue to remain a menace to society.

Typical heartless conservative gun fanatic. Bustards are almost extinct, but do you care? No, you just want to SHOOT them.

http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Publications/ZooGoer/2002/2/bustards.cfm

156 posted on 09/27/2005 1:55:20 PM PDT by TChad
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To: cripplecreek

My Grandpa had the razor strap. It was his dad's. Who says families these day lack traditions.

Let put it this way they say you need to talk often and long to your kids about drugs. My dad's anti drug speech lasted 15 seconds and he only had to give it once. "It I ever catch you doing drugs I will kill you!!!" I never touched anything I could not legally buy at a walgreens.


157 posted on 09/27/2005 1:56:58 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: LibWhacker

If I did something like that, I would have gotten an old fashion Irish ass kicking. If I saw something like that today, I would give an old fashion Irish ass kicking.


158 posted on 09/27/2005 1:59:20 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Draft Mark Sanford for President - 2008)
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To: teawithmisswilliams
At least these boys weren't reading the Bible at recess...

I'm generally against religion in the public schools, but these guys are the "exception to the rule" I could agree with...After their hides are tanned!
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159 posted on 09/27/2005 2:01:38 PM PDT by radioman
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To: clee1
Yeah, but it's easier to clean the blood off of aluminum.

Well there is something to be said about the comforting "ring" the aluminum makes when it strikes home... : ) <<< me

160 posted on 09/27/2005 2:03:05 PM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuhrer... [hummmm...]))
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To: AprilfromTexas

My sister had one of those. She stayed good for 15 years but is now back to her belligerent self.


161 posted on 09/27/2005 2:05:50 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: LibWhacker

Since these hoodlums don't know how to treat women, perhaps involuntary separation from their testicles should be part of the punishment.


162 posted on 09/27/2005 2:07:53 PM PDT by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time will pick himself up and carry on)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I'll bet you dollars to donuts their moms don't know.


163 posted on 09/27/2005 2:12:16 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: LibWhacker

This story reminds me of others i have read in the past, but the poor girls were raped by several guys, while riding the buss. And another time the girl was given a note to go to a room and was held down by another girl while her friends raped the poor girl, these things are sad... : ) <<< me


164 posted on 09/27/2005 2:13:41 PM PDT by stopsign ( ("What great fortune for government, that people don't think". ...Der Fuhrer... [hummmm...]))
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To: derllak
Would your attitude change if one of the girls were your daughter?

If I read it correctly, "boyz will be boyz" wasn't meant to dismiss what they did, but instead was a back-handed reference to the fact that they are black. Note the "z".

166 posted on 09/27/2005 2:16:52 PM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Texas Songwriter

Canadians?


167 posted on 09/27/2005 2:19:43 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: Baynative
rap is degrading, disgusting, anti-social, violent and has no place in a balanced society

My grandparents said the same thing to my parents about rock and roll.

My great grandparents said the same thing to my grandparents about jazz.

168 posted on 09/27/2005 2:25:50 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: rattrap

Canadians is slang for black people.


169 posted on 09/27/2005 2:26:14 PM PDT by conserv13
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To: LibWhacker
You forcibly hold someone down, you remove their clothing, you are fondling that person -- if these children had been adults, this is a crime, if convicted, they would be labeled sex offenders for the rest of their lives," Lake County sheriff's Sgt. Christie Mysinger said.

But it’s not a crime for kids?
171 posted on 09/27/2005 2:29:45 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: johnb838
Boyz will be Boyz

Way back when my daughter was in high school she was groped while stepping up into the bus. She beat the pervert severely.
I was called to the schools to pick her up and take her home – she had been expelled for violence!
When I walked into the office she was setting near a large boy with a great shiner and bloody nose. She told me what happened before the suits could intervene. The suits told me no violence would be tolerated (“0 Tolerance” policy). I asked to see the police report and was told that no report had been made. “Boys will be boys ha ha.”
When I stated I would make the call myself they quickly changed their mind. My daughter was not suspended, and an “investigation” was conducted.
Nothing came of it – except that the boy changed his attitude toward girls.
172 posted on 09/27/2005 2:37:49 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: conserv13
Canadians is slang for black people.

Never heard that one. How in the world did that terminology come about?

173 posted on 09/27/2005 2:39:08 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: rattrap

I am not sure but I have heard it before, usually derogatory and used in mixed company.


174 posted on 09/27/2005 2:42:54 PM PDT by conserv13
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later pingout.


176 posted on 09/27/2005 2:50:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: astounded

see my post #77.


177 posted on 09/27/2005 2:53:40 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is...not be one of them!)
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To: Baynative
"(plus I'm) rollin with two Glocks"

That part, I can relate to. As for the rest -- yikes!

178 posted on 09/27/2005 3:04:26 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: thompsonsjkc; odoso; animoveritas; mercygrace; Laissez-faire capitalist; bellevuesbest; ...

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Here's what Star Parker, a noted black conservative writer, has to say:

"Consider that black households that are headed by married
couples have median incomes almost 90 percent that of white
households headed by married couples. The problem in the black
community is that far too few black households are headed by
married couples. Black social reality in New Orleans at the
moment when the floodwaters started pouring in was fairly typical
of black inner-city social reality around the country. Upwards
of 70 percent of the households were headed by single parents,
mostly women. When I discuss social statistics with audiences
around the country, I invariably hear gasps when I point out
that the out-of-wedlock birthrate today among young white women
(30 percent) is higher than it was among black women 50 years
ago. There, of course, remain residuals of racism in America
today, and it's news to a lot of whites that black families were
relatively intact, headed by married couples, in the '40s and
'50s. Today's out-of-wedlock black births and single-parent
households are triple what they were then. The collapse of the
black family took off when big government programs, particularly
welfare, were launched, compliments of black and white liberals,
after the civil-rights movement."

What more needs be said?

Except read the whole thread, near the end are lyrics (actually, they aren't lyrics, they're barely words) to a rap - well, it's not a song, either. A rap screed. Read it.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


179 posted on 09/27/2005 3:11:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Dubh_Ghlase
Geld them...

I agree. Simple solution and a deterrent to future actions.

180 posted on 09/27/2005 3:21:15 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: cinives
I didn't say it was easy. I answered the question that was asked.

BTW, the way I read it, it's not "roughed up". It's sexual assault.

A phone for emergencies is a good idea. Some here advocated arresting the parents when their children have cell phones. Most of the use is nonsene, but that's a parental problem. They can be a good thing.

181 posted on 09/27/2005 4:11:24 PM PDT by Protagoras (Call it what it is, partial delivery murder)
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To: HeadOn

Perhaps it was a woman, who didn't think she could handle it.
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From my experience when I was in school; the female bus drivers were more intimidating then the male bus drivers!


182 posted on 09/27/2005 5:41:23 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: clee1

Yeah, but it's easier to clean the blood off of aluminum.
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However; it is so nice to see the look of fear when they see the stains left ingrained from the dirt bag.


183 posted on 09/27/2005 5:54:13 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: sit-rep

Were the victims white?
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Does it really matter?


184 posted on 09/27/2005 5:57:23 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: LibWhacker

If they had gotten a BJ they would have been less guilty, according to Clinton law.

The law will just slap these boy's. Now go to your room.

I would crush one nut until they confessed. And please don't tell me that this is wrong. Where is Charles Bronson when you need him.


185 posted on 09/27/2005 6:00:20 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: BenLurkin
I don't care what the color is. Crush the perps and use them as asphalt.
186 posted on 09/27/2005 6:03:25 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Baynative

It's the rap/hiphop culture at it's finest.


187 posted on 09/27/2005 6:08:14 PM PDT by stbdside
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To: Grizzled Bear
Were the victims white? ____________________________________________________ Does it really matter?

I suspect it would matter if the victim were Black and the perpetrators white.

188 posted on 09/27/2005 6:11:49 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Grizzled Bear

No, just curious.


189 posted on 09/27/2005 6:14:07 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: sit-rep

Pardon me if I was rude.

Based on the area; I'm guessing the girls were either black or mixed-minority.

Regardless I am praying for the poor girls. I doubt they have much of a support system and it will likely leave lasting damage.


190 posted on 09/27/2005 6:18:34 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: Grizzled Bear
No sweat... I've gotten the backs of my legs whacked quite a few times around here lately so I'm learning to just peacefully end it!

Hopefully there will be some adequate support for these girls.

191 posted on 09/27/2005 6:23:07 PM PDT by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: LibWhacker

Yet another reason to homeschool. (It also doesn't bother me in the least that my 11 year old daughter was a judo champion at the age of 7.)


192 posted on 09/27/2005 6:26:51 PM PDT by deaconjim (Dear Lord, please comfort those who are suffering.)
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To: AppyPappy
I thought there was a law against publishing names of minors in crimes. Maybe it's just a state law.

I think it's a local policy. I've seen other small towns in Florida do it. The Democrat infested area I live in doesn't do it.

193 posted on 09/27/2005 6:31:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: LibWhacker

Condolences to the victims, their families and friends.


194 posted on 09/27/2005 6:34:37 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: rattrap

Their moms have probably been treated that way themselves, and while they probably know, can't do a darn thing about it.

This has nothing to do with the fact that these creeps were black, but a lot to do with Hollywood/LA stimulated black rap "culture," that has taken a social problem (wlefare-state black men who hate women and will not accept responsibility for their children or anything else) and made it into a cult icon to be emulated. Incidentally, most of the people profiting from this are not black.


195 posted on 09/27/2005 6:36:31 PM PDT by livius
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To: Grizzled Bear

The girls are probably black, and they are probably used to being treated like garbage. My sister worked in a GED program where something like 98% of the students were black. Girls outnumbered boys by a huge margin, because they were at least trying to get their lives together; most of the boys had been assigned by their probation/parole officers, and dropped out as soon as they thought they could do so without getting sent back to jail.

One horrible detail: three girls in her class were pregnant by the same guy, who was several years older than they were (and if he had been white, statutory rape charges would have been pressed against him). One of the girls, who had probably been about 15 when she had been impregnated, decided to go to court for child support. And the other girls cut her out and even threatened to kill her for going against "their man." She had to be walked to her car for protection.

Black girls are completely beaten down by these guys. Sometimes when they are much older, they get smart. But it can take a long time. Black girls need to have more self-respect, but with NARAL there just telling them to flop over on their backs, go to the local abortion clinic and have it "taken care of," they're not going to learn that self respect any time soon.


196 posted on 09/27/2005 6:47:03 PM PDT by livius
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To: AppyPappy
This happened to a girl I know...in 1978

It happened to my cousin too - must've been 1969 or 1970. The result of it was that her parents got her enrolled in another school district, because their school district apparently didn't think a 6th grader being held down by a bunch of boys and having her clothes ripped off was a big deal. It was in a pretty rural area too, no racial component - just obnoxious boys who thought they could get away with it, and did!

197 posted on 09/27/2005 6:50:54 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Protagoras

"Charge?"

Charge them for breeding and raising inbred pitbulls without a permit


198 posted on 09/27/2005 7:04:29 PM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: livius
if he had been white, statutory rape charges would have been pressed against him
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Can you really make this claim? Maybe in some areas but in the hell holes these children live in?

Next time a liberal who spouts "Progressive" garbage I think I am going to take them on a tour through Detroit's Nether regions. And maybe, if they behave them-self, I might even bring em back out.
199 posted on 09/27/2005 7:26:07 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear
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To: b4its2late
Would Ruth Bader Ginsberg have a problem with this?

That would depend on the laws and customs of other countries.

200 posted on 09/27/2005 7:40:44 PM PDT by RJL
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