Posted on 09/27/2005 7:37:51 AM PDT by NYer
How can this be? The words "Christ," "Christian" and "Catholic" are absent from the new 70k-word EU constitution... < /s>
99% is a stretch...but your intention is true.
people of similar faiths should learn to work together.
Who can disagree that Protestant America and it's Constitution have given the world it's greatest and inspired discoveries.
I can.
It most certainly is perfect. It is divine. However, Church men including popes are often far from perfect.
The Spanish inquisition for instance stagnated the population and played at least a small part in Spain falling from the role of being a great power.
they are also responsible for the downfall, because of advocating illegal immigration through their Catholic Charities. Aiding and abetting illegal aliens is a crime. The Catholic church is responsible for.
"The "ordinary man," that you refer to, even up until 19th century, couldn't read. Literacy did not become widespread until then. Also, before this time, if you were literate, there was a good chance that you could read Latin as well. Up until the Protestant "Reformation," the Bible was available for anyone to read in Latin, since it was the intellectual language of the time. The problem the Church had with vernacular translations wasn't with the translations themselves, it was the fact that most were bad translations."
Good point.
And I'll add some more.
Up until the invention of the printing press, churches needed to guard their copies of the scriptures from theft so they could be read to the faithful at mass.
Scriptures were copied by hand and generally were only available to churches and those wealthy enough to purchase copies.
So...it is a lie that the Catholic Church denied access to scriptures.
Like you pointed out - the Church had to root out BAD copies that contained error - and the faithful listened to the Word at mass.
That's beside the point that the original manuscripts were preserved, translated, and declared divinely inspired by the Catholic Church to begin with.
This should be interesting.
Hey, I'm Catholic, and I have no disagreement with you there. To be more specific, it's the liberation theology wing of the Catholic Church.
You are always invited back to the one, holy, catholic and apostolic church.
What you say is so true!
Me too!
Actually they do. Go to an "anti-abortion" protest--probably half the folks will be Roman Catholics, and the other half will be Southern Baptists and similar "fundamentalist churches".
Well, I guess that's bad news for you gringo.
racial terms are unacceptable on this website. The "G" word is just as bad as the N word.
Check this out!
Your fictional "dead Anabaptists" have nothing to do with the origin of scripture and the fact that it was the Catholic Church that preserved it, translated it, and declared it divinely inspired.
You don't have to be catholic to see this...all you have to do is study history.
Interesting. I'll check it out; a fresh perspective is always welcome. But he'd better have his facts, jots and tiddles lined up smartly!
I think the author is going beyond a claim that the Church merely preserved civilization (or didn't do it fatal damage!) It is also widely held that western civilization would not exist today if it hadn't been for the Arabs in the 8th-11th centuries.
Personally I think that empires and hegemonies wind up inimical to learning, if they don't actually start out that way, and insofar as they don't altogether smother civilization, they simply don't try hard enough, or they haven't the means to extinguish every last spark.
And of course, at times they just kept their enemies (inquiring minds) close.
I'll need convincing that the Church actively encouraged or nurtured scientific inquiry, its barely tolerable "red-haired stepchild."
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