The End of the Republican Party?

I can hardly believe the article failed to mention any bill numbers!
There are three pro-gun bills languishing in committee at this time that urgently need our attention, H.R. 1603, H.R. 1703, and H.R. 2088 (with over 50 cosponsors!).

I am posting all the information I have readily available, fall is here, congress is back in session, it's time to get involved and convince congress to PASS these bills!

The bill this article references is H.R. 1603, the "Fairness in firearms testing act".

Failure to act on these bills may not doom the republican party, but it has certainly weakened my support, forcing me to seriously consider alternate parties!

Fairness in Firearm Testing Act (Introduced in House)

HR 1603 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1603

To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 13, 2005

Mr. GINGREY introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To require the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to make video recordings of the examination and testing of firearms and ammunition, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Fairness in Firearm Testing Act'.

SEC. 2. VIDEO RECORDING OF EXAMINATION AND TESTING OF FIREARMS AND AMMUNITION BY THE BUREAU OF ALCOHOL, TOBACCO, FIREARMS, AND EXPLOSIVES.

Section 1111 of the Homeland Security Act of 2002 (6 U.S.C. 531) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(e) Additional Responsibilities Regarding Examination and Testing of Firearms and Ammunition-

`(1) VIDEO RECORDING REQUIRED- The Bureau shall make a video recording of the entire process of the examination and testing by the Bureau of an item for the purpose of determining, pursuant to section 921(a)(3), 922(o), 922(p), or subsection (a)(3), (a)(4), (d), or (e) of section 925 of title 18, United States Code, or section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, whether the item is a firearm and if so, the type of firearm, or of determining pursuant to section 921(a)(17) of title 18, United States Code, whether the item is ammunition, and shall not edit or erase any recording made pursuant to this paragraph.

`(2) AVAILABILITY-

`(A) TO OWNERS- On request of a person who claims an ownership interest in an item with respect to which a recording is made under paragraph (1), the Bureau shall make available to the person, without charge, a digital video disc that contains a copy of the recording.

`(B) TO DEFENDANTS- The Bureau shall make available to a defendant in a criminal proceeding involving an item with respect to which a recording is made under paragraph (1) a digital video disc that contains a copy of the recording.

`(3) ADMISSIBILITY AS EVIDENCE- An item which the Bureau has determined is a firearm or a type of firearm or ammunition pursuant to any provision of law specified in paragraph (1) shall not be admissible as evidence in any judicial or administrative proceeding unless--

`(A) the Bureau has complied with paragraph (2) with respect to the item; or

`(B) such compliance has been waived, in writing, by the person against whom the item is offered as evidence.'.

The main effect of the bill would be to force ATFE to tighten up their standards and behave rationally, it would have little or no effect on LEGITIMATE prosecutions!

HR 1703 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1703

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 19, 2005

Mr. PAUL introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

A BILL

To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Second Amendment Protection Act of 2005'.

SEC. 2. REPEAL OF FEDERAL HARASSMENT PERIOD.

Public Law 103-159 is repealed, and any provisions of law amended or repealed by such Act are restored or revived as if such Act had not been enacted.

SEC. 3. REPEAL OF UNCONSTITUTIONAL DISTINCTION.

(a) Section 5845(f) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended--

(1) by striking `which the Secretary finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes'; and

(2) by striking `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes'.

(b) Section 921(a)(4)(B) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking `which the Attorney General finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes'.

(c) Section 921(a)(4) of such title is amended in the 2nd sentence by striking `which the owner intends to use solely for sporting, recreational, or cultural purposes'.

(d) Section 921(a)(17)(C) of such title is amended by striking `a projectile which the Attorney General finds is primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes,'.

(e) Section 923(j) of such title is amended by striking `devoted to the collection, competitive use, or other sporting use of firearms in the community'.

(f) Section 922(r) of such title is amended by striking `of this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.

(g) Section 925(a)(3) of such title is amended by striking `determined by the Attorney General to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes and'.

(h) Section 925(a)(4) of such title is amended by striking `(A) determined by the Attorney General to be generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes, or determined by the Department of Defense to be a type of firearm normally classified as a war souvenir, and (B)'.

(i) Section 925(d)(3) of such title is amended by striking `and is generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.

(j) Section 925(e)(2) of such title is amended by striking `provided that such handguns are generally recognized as particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes'.

(k) Section 922 of such title is amended in each of subsections (a)(5), (a)(9), and (b)(3) by striking `lawful sporting purposes' and inserting `lawful purposes'.

SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE.

The provisions of this Act shall take effect immediately upon enactment.

H.R. 2088
• H.R.2088
• Title: To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes.
• Sponsor: Rep Gibbons, Jim [NV-2] (introduced 5/4/2005) Cosponsors (55)
• Latest Major Action: 5/4/2005 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and in addition to the Committee on Ways and Means, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned.
•
• Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Baker, Richard H. [LA-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Barrett, J. Gresham [SC-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Barton, Joe [TX-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bishop, Rob [UT-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Boozman, John [AR-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Bradley, Jeb [NH-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Burgess, Michael C. [TX-26] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Calvert, Ken [CA-44] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cannon, Chris [UT-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cramer, Robert E. (Bud), Jr. [AL-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Cunningham, Randy (Duke) [CA-50] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Deal, Nathan [GA-10] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Duncan, John J., Jr. [TN-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Emerson, Jo Ann [MO-8] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Feeney, Tom [FL-24] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Franks, Trent [AZ-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Goode, Virgil H., Jr. [VA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hall, Ralph M. [TX-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hefley, Joel [CO-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Herger, Wally [CA-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hostettler, John N. [IN-8] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Hunter, Duncan [CA-52] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kennedy, Mark R. [MN-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep King, Steve [IA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kingston, Jack [GA-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Kuhl, John R. "Randy", Jr. [NY-29] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Lewis, Ron [KY-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Miller, Jeff [FL-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Mollohan, Alan B. [WV-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 5/12/2005
• Rep Otter, C. L. (Butch) [ID-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Pearce, Stevan [NM-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Peterson, John E. [PA-5] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/16/2005
• Rep Rogers, Mike D. [AL-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Ross, Mike [AR-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Salazar, John T. [CO-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Sessions, Pete [TX-32] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Shimkus, John [IL-19] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Shuster, Bill [PA-9] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Simpson, Michael K. [ID-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Souder, Mark E. [IN-3] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Tancredo, Thomas G. [CO-6] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Taylor, Gene [MS-4] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Terry, Lee [NE-2] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Tiberi, Patrick J. [OH-12] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Whitfield, Ed [KY-1] - 5/4/2005
• Rep Wilson, Joe [SC-2] - 5/4/2005

These are the only two so far to add their names AFTER the bill was introduced!
• Rep Musgrave, Marilyn N. [CO-4] - 5/12/2005
• Rep Putnam, Adam H. [FL-12] - 5/16/2005\

We clearly need to work harder, I am unsure how many sponsors are needed to get this bill out of committee for passage, but 55 is apparently not enough! ('')

What the H?

I thought this post never made it, I got a "Bad gateway 502" message when I tried to post!

it's also true that when the base has not strongly supported the Republican nominee the results have been Presidents like Carter and Clinton - and the base understands that.

There's a strategy for the future: "Our guy's not nearly as crappy as their guy!"

Worked great for that weaselly loser OldBob Dole, didn't it?

Many of us say, and will continue to say, "screw both Big Stupid Government parties."

I wonder why Ron Paul isn't on that list.

I wonder why Ron Paul isn't on that list.

That's what I was thinking.

The only thing I can guess is that he's not in favor of anything that would encourage firearms registration.

""I wonder why Ron Paul isn't on that list.""

maybe because the intent is for a National Gun Registry.

"• H.R.2088 • Title: To provide an amnesty period during which veterans and their family members can register certain firearms in the National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record, and for other purposes."

I wonder if Rep Paul totally disagrees with the premise?

I support and donate to JPFO

Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership?

I googled JFPO and found this. I am not aware of this group.

Republican controlled Executive office, Senate and HOR, FOX news is #1, Rush is #1.

Yep, looks like republicans are in DEEP trouble.

Yes, that's the group I was referring to. They did an interesting little book comparing the Nazi gun-control laws to the US laws passed in the late 60s - if the translation from German is correct, the gun-grabbers in the USA cribbed a whole lot from the Nazi text.

They didn't tinfoil this claim; they laid photocopies of both texts side by side, did the translation and showed where the laws lined up. It's scary; I've got the book somewhere - it was a spiral-bound, inexpensive publication.

Here, I went and looked it up on their site: Gun Control's Nazi Connection

These guys are hardcore defenders of firearm ownership - pretty much the opposite of the "What, me worry?" Jews like Feinswine and Schmucky Schumer.

Thanks for the link. Very interesting stuff. I skimmed thru it quickly and am going back to read thru in more detail. This part did stand out to me, though: "ask media personalities in your city or town why they back Nazi based laws." Good point.

How you doing, Marine?

Don't get depressed; get even. Join the fight, and let's take our party back from the stupid RINOs.

I've got an antique two-foot long paddle. I'll loan it to you.

You're right about the pessimism, Reaganghost, but I won't accept it.

We need to rally the freeper troops and get them into action. If all we do is sit and whine then we're lost. We can't have good people on FR feeling lost and pessimistic.

Looking forward to your project.

Cowards allways accept the lesser of two evils.

And, what are they that accept the greater of those?

Traitors?

Just asking...

“Cowards allways accept the lesser of two evils.”

If you saying that people who consider whether or not a person can be elected when voting for him are cowards, then I respectfully disagree.

What are they that vote for the greater of the two?

Cowards always accept the lesser of two evils.

I tend to agree. I tire very much of that choice, which is really no choice at all. If we keep digging this hole, eventually there will be no climbing out.

Really. That is BAY Buchanan. Not Pat.

HAHAHAHHA.

paleos?

As opposed to what? Big gov, big spend, new age Republcans?

Thanks for the reply and what I hope is some encouragement for the project. Have you taken your sneak preview? If you have, I would be interested in knowing your thoughts by either freepmail or to the email address that appears on the website.

Thanks.