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Bush at low tide (Pat Buchanan)
MSNBC ^ | 9/19/05

Posted on 09/19/2005 12:12:34 PM PDT by areafiftyone

As the petty carping from Senators Reid and Kerry indicates, President Bush’s speech from Jackson Square was a success. Again, he accepted responsibility for the torpid response of federal authorities. He showed empathy for the victims and recognition the poor had borne the brunt of the New Orleans disaster.

He came prepared with a credible agenda of action. And the biblical allusions fit well with Southern and religious folks, black and white. Not a great speech, but Gersen did the job, put the President out front and center as Big Boss in the rebuilding of New Orleans.

Also, New Orleans and Louisiana officials, Democrats though they may be, are unlikely to keep attacking a fellow who is going to decide how $65 billion is spend in their back yard. After mishandling the crisis, the president has been on top and out front for two weeks. While the memory of his stumbling and bumbling will be part of his legacy, the worst is behind him, the story now gets better with the recovery and rebuilding of New Orleans, a story Americans will like.

Media and Democrats who continue to snipe will soon appear to be what many are: inveterate Bush-baiters and Bush-bashers. Nevertheless, there is no denying that George W. Bush is now at the nadir of his presidency. The aura of 9/11 is gone. His approval is at 40%. Iraq appears an insoluble mess with the real potential for a strategic and economic disaster. Gas prices are biting. The immigration situation—and the president’s inexplicable refusal to protect the border—is killing him with his populist base.

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1 posted on 09/19/2005 12:12:35 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone

It's better to be Bush at low tide than Buchanan at high tide, any day of the week.


2 posted on 09/19/2005 12:14:25 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: areafiftyone

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Gerson is not his speech writer anymore! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! They will give credit to ANYONE but Bush. HAHAHAHAHA!!!


3 posted on 09/19/2005 12:14:38 PM PDT by Lemondropkid31
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To: wideawake
Pat, just shut up.


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4 posted on 09/19/2005 12:17:10 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: wideawake

You got that right


5 posted on 09/19/2005 12:17:35 PM PDT by wvnavyvet
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To: areafiftyone

As Rush mentioned today .. Rasmussen has continued to show Bush at 48%. Of course, the MSM will not report that because it doesn't fit their get-Bush agenda.


6 posted on 09/19/2005 12:18:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: areafiftyone

Pat Buchanan is perfect at MSNBC, a biased network with low ratings and minimal influence.


7 posted on 09/19/2005 12:19:16 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: wideawake

Buchanan is not a conservative.


8 posted on 09/19/2005 12:19:26 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: CyberAnt

LOL MSM won't show it unless its 39 percent or below. Then they gleefully report it.


9 posted on 09/19/2005 12:19:58 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone

Pat who?


10 posted on 09/19/2005 12:20:17 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
"Buchanan is not a conservative."

Nope, he's an idiot.

11 posted on 09/19/2005 12:20:20 PM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots)
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To: rdb3

is there any one policy view buchanan has that you agree with?


12 posted on 09/19/2005 12:20:23 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: areafiftyone

"Bush at low tide"

It could just be that T. Kennedy and M. Moore got out of the ocean.


13 posted on 09/19/2005 12:21:06 PM PDT by YouPosting2Me
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To: areafiftyone
Pat writes [for those who smear without reading]

" Media and Democrats who continue to snipe will soon appear to be what many are: inveterate Bush-baiters and Bush-bashers."

"But those, like my friend E. J. Dionne, who wrote, “The Bush era is over,” are expressing hopes, not describing reality. Bush holds the most powerful office on earth -- and will for the next three years and four months. He draws up a federal budget of $2.4 trillion, can veto bills, appoint Supreme Court Justices, attend summits, negotiate treaties, go on national TV virtually at will, and pull out or send in troops to Iraq."

Pat is right again. Bush is still the most powerfull man in the world. Down but far from out.

14 posted on 09/19/2005 12:22:46 PM PDT by ex-snook (Swapping factories and dollars for cheap goods is lose-lose)
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To: areafiftyone
President Bush did accept responsibility but Pat is a typical nut that didn't get the full message. It was the legal first responders that failed for the first few days, and after the Levy broke, totally let it go to hell. That responsibility was the Mayor and Governor. That is where the real problem was. I fault President Bush for not assuming a small part of the responsibility and laying the major part on MO and Governor.
15 posted on 09/19/2005 12:23:55 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: areafiftyone

Patty-Patty Buke-Buke. I wondered what became of him.


16 posted on 09/19/2005 12:24:29 PM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet. Whadda you mean sometimes?)
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To: areafiftyone

I used to like Pat. Before the insanity set in.


Pat forgot that it is better to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt.


This piece however is not AS bad as other recent pieces have been.


17 posted on 09/19/2005 12:24:52 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Procrastinators of the world UNITE!!!.....Tomorrow.)
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To: wideawake

Do you smell what the Buchanan has been cooking?


18 posted on 09/19/2005 12:26:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: areafiftyone
Pat...at least Dubya has a presidency to be at the nadir of.
19 posted on 09/19/2005 12:26:49 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: areafiftyone

Why I ever liked Pat Buchanan I don't know.


20 posted on 09/19/2005 12:27:20 PM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: areafiftyone

"Petty carping" is a particular speciality of our protofascist friend Herr Buchanan.


21 posted on 09/19/2005 12:28:12 PM PDT by Petronski (Avast me hearties! I loves me Cyborg. Arrrrrgh!)
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To: areafiftyone

Look who's talking, Patrick....


22 posted on 09/19/2005 12:29:39 PM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: wideawake

Pat ran aground several years back, and has been rotting ever since.


23 posted on 09/19/2005 12:29:44 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: areafiftyone
"The aura of 9/11 is gone."

Yeaaaaaaaaaaah the aura of 9/11. What a marroon. Pat should stick to blaming everything on Israel and those evilllll Jooooos.
24 posted on 09/19/2005 12:31:27 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: WoofDog123

"is there any one policy view buchanan has that you agree with?"

Maybe a detail or two is wrong but I found this piece informative factually and the tone of its opinion reasonable. Pat's voice rises above the partisan cable/radio inspired bickering.

Stable, level-headed. Maybe a surprise, but Louisiana is 10,000 miles away from Israel.


25 posted on 09/19/2005 12:36:42 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: areafiftyone

Low tide/High tide?? At least his ship didn't sink like Pat's years ago.


26 posted on 09/19/2005 12:38:52 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: popdonnelly

I think that Pat is trying to pay back Bush for winning in 2000....but he is also trying to help drive a wedge in the Republican Party...

so if there is a candidate NOT to his liking in 2008, he will try to get infighting so bad...that there will be a struggle..and that candidate might get beat...

Who knows....but I have read some of the things that Buchanan has written...and I put him in the same catagory as I do Robert Novak...he may be CALLED a Republican or conservative...be he and Novak aren't either.


27 posted on 09/19/2005 12:42:20 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: areafiftyone
Buchanan smells like low tide.
28 posted on 09/19/2005 12:44:03 PM PDT by SquirrelKing (I'm not mean, you're just a sissy.)
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To: areafiftyone

As a Christian, Bush will now demonstrate the resurrection power of God.


29 posted on 09/19/2005 12:45:13 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: areafiftyone

Who said President Bush wasn't in New Orleans fast enough?


30 posted on 09/19/2005 12:45:44 PM PDT by msnimje (Cogito Ergo Sum Republican)
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To: Shermy

Wait till it sinks in that Bush proposed the

Gulf Opportunity Zone - GOZ.

Flip it around and whaddya get? ZOG!


31 posted on 09/19/2005 12:46:31 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: RichInOC

Pat Buchanan's vanity run for President in 2000, when he had zero chance of winning, nearly put Al Gore in the White House by drawing votes away from Bush in Florida.


32 posted on 09/19/2005 12:47:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Shermy
Maybe a detail or two is wrong but I found this piece informative factually and the tone of its opinion reasonable.

I agree, I feel like I'm at DU when a Buchanan or WorldNetDaily article is posted. People resport to ad hominem attacks rather than attacking the message. But when a liberal does it to someone they like, watch out!

33 posted on 09/19/2005 12:48:21 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (No matter what my work/play ratio is, I am never a dull boy.)
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To: WoofDog123
is there any one policy view buchanan has that you agree with?

Yeah, immigration. But that doesn't take away from the fact that I loathe his side of the Right with a passion.


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34 posted on 09/19/2005 12:48:53 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: areafiftyone

I this keeps up, there is NO WAY President George W. Bush will be re-elected in 2008! What are we going to do????


35 posted on 09/19/2005 12:50:11 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: areafiftyone
After mishandling the crisis, the president has been on top and out front for two weeks. While the memory of his stumbling and bumbling will be part of his legacy...

This is pathetic. Exactly how did the President mishandle the crisis? When did he bumble and stumble? When he called the Governor urging her to order an evacuation? When he declared an emergency before the storm hit so he could shake Blanco and Nagin out of the inactivity? Or maybe it was when he ordered the storm to fizzle out and it didn't. Yeah...that must be it.

36 posted on 09/19/2005 12:50:44 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: Txsleuth
...but he is also trying to help drive a wedge in the Republican Party...

BINGO!


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37 posted on 09/19/2005 12:51:03 PM PDT by rdb3 (NON-conservative, American exceptionalist here.)
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To: areafiftyone

Buchanan took too many right hooks to the head when he was a boxer....he's whacky most of the time.


38 posted on 09/19/2005 12:51:17 PM PDT by fizziwig
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To: Txsleuth

"but he is also trying to help drive a wedge in the Republican Party..."

No, he's trying to give Republicans a wedgie.


39 posted on 09/19/2005 12:51:57 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: areafiftyone

A report from someone who really has reached the depths of non-credability about someone with the toughest job in the world. The only thing positive anyone can say about Buchanan is his opinions and motives are so obvious no one needs to waste time reading any more of them.


40 posted on 09/19/2005 12:53:01 PM PDT by hgro (ews)
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To: pgkdan
King George Walker Canute Bush orders the Hurricane to recede.


41 posted on 09/19/2005 12:53:49 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

LOL...you read my mind! That was the exact image I had in mind when I typed my post!


42 posted on 09/19/2005 12:55:13 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: areafiftyone

The dirty little secret about the number is that if your poll number is below 45, you are considered a loser - which is what the dems have to believe in order to continue their assault against Bush. The MSM is just trying to help out the blame-Bush'ers.

If people remember correctly, Bush's poll numbers were also below 45 for several months before the 2004 election. The dems were deluding themselves .. as usual. When Bush won by over 4 MILLION VOTES .. the poll numbers were shown to be what they were - A LIE. Just like they are now.


43 posted on 09/19/2005 1:00:50 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: CyberAnt; All

One thing I have notice is that the Bush Administration leads by what he think is right not by polls..


44 posted on 09/19/2005 1:02:48 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles --> http://www.cafepress.com/kevinspace1)
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To: KevinDavis

"... the Bush Administration leads by what he think is right not by polls.."


You would have noticed correctly!


45 posted on 09/19/2005 1:04:40 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: swarthyguy
Very interesting indeed!

Something's up.

Google "goz zog". First hit is a Hillary Clinton site. Hmm..

46 posted on 09/19/2005 1:07:03 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: areafiftyone; new yorker 77

Pattt Buckwheat has nadired GW more than the left wing mediots have and has been wrong more times.

Misunderestimated: A Timeline of President George W. Bush's Successes, Despite Media and Democrats
September 16, 2005 | newyorker77


Posted on 09/16/2005 12:37:42 PM PDT by new yorker 77


MISUNDERESTIMATED:

1993, Summer - Mocked for trying to unseat Governor Ann Richards.

1994, Nov. – Defeats Governor Ann Richards to become Governor of Texas.

1998, Nov. – Becomes first Texas Governor to win re-election.

1999, Fall – Mocked for announcing a run for the Presidency.

2000, Winter – The media nominates John McCain for the Republican Party.

2000, Oct. – Mocked by media before three debates with Al Gore.

2000, Oct. – Wins all three debates against Al Gore.

2000, Nov. – Dirty trick unleashed by Gore Campaign and media.

2000, Nov. – Dan Rather calls Florida for Gore one hour before polls close.

2000, Nov. – Bush Wins election when Katherine Harris certifies Florida’s election.

2000, Nov. – Democrats try to steal election through courts.

2000, Dec. – Supreme Court stops Democrats from stealing the election

2001, Spring – Bush gets his first round of tax cuts passed.

2001, Summer – Jim Jeffords hands Senate control to Tom Daschle and the Democrats.

2001, Aug. – Bush Job Approval hits all-time low according to lib media polls.

2001, Sep. – 9/11/01 terrorist attacks destroy WTC and define Bush Presidency.

2001, Sep. – Bush has bullhorn moment at the WTC.

2001, Sep. – Bush galvanizes the nation in his speech before a joint session of Congress.

2001, Oct. – Democrats say Bush is dragging his feet on responding to the attacks.

2001, Oct. – The U.S. Military begins destroying the Taliban the next day.

2001, Oct. – Democrats say the War in Afghanistan is a quagmire in week one.

2002, Spring – Media and Democrats say Bush knew about 9-11 before it happened.

2002, Summer – Bush begins debate on removing Saddam Hussein.

2002, Sep. – Democrats say Bush is dragging his feet on dealing with Iraq.

2002, Sep. - Democrats demand Homeland Security Department.

2002, Nov. – Bush bets his popularity and the GOP wins back Senate, gains in House.

2002, Nov. – Homeland Security Act of 2002 passes to create new department.

2002, Dec. – Congress passes the Iraq War Resolution. Most Democrats support it.

2003, Mar. – War in Iraq begins.

2003, Apr. – Democrats call Iraq a quagmire one week after war starts.

2003, Apr. – Baghdad falls.

2003, Apr. – Media focuses on looting of Museum. Turns out most artifacts are fine.

2003, May – Bush gets 2nd round of tax cuts passed with GOP Senate helped elect.

2003, July – ‘Bad tan’ Joe Wilson becomes media darling when he lies about Niger.

2003, July – Uday and Qusay take permanent dirt knap.

2003, Aug. – Foreign terrorists begin car bombing. Media calls foreigners, insurgents.

2003, Sep. – Bush Job Approval hits all time low. Lower than previous low in Aug. 2001

2003, Dec. – Saddam Hussein is captured in Mosul. Democrats cry.

2004, Jan. – Dean implodes. Kerry becomes ‘electable’ savior.

2004, Jan. – David Kay becomes media darling with his WMD testimony.

2004, Jan. – Paul ‘mumbles’ O’Neill gets 60 Minutes red carpet.

2004, Jan. – Bush Job Approval hits new all-time low according to lib media polls.

2004, Feb. – Richard Clarke gets 60 Minutes red carpet. The horror. The horror.

2004, Mar. – Bush Job Approval hits new all-time low according to lib media polls.

2004, May – Abu Ghraib photos are paraded on 60 Minutes Wednesday.

2004, May – Bush Job Approval hits new all-time low according to lib media polls.

2004, June – 9-11 Commission becomes platform for the Jersey girls to bash Bush.

2004, Summer – Fahrenheit 9-11 anti- American propaganda film becomes media hit.

2004, Aug. – Anti-Bush liberals led by the very fat Michael Moore march in NYC.

2004, Sep. – Bush ends convention with a speech that crushes Democrats hopes.

2004, Sep. – 60 Minutes Wednesday gives America Memo-gate with a story on Bush.

2004, Sep. – 1,000th soldier dies in Iraq War. Democrats and media celebrate.

2004, Oct. – Bush mocked for poor performances against John Kerry in debates.

2004, Oct. – Afghanistan holds a successful First Presidential Election.

2004, Oct. - NY Times puts out fake story on missing ammo in Iraq.

2004, Oct. – Osama Bin Laden endorses John Kerry.

2004, Nov. – Fake Exit Polls produced by the AP on Election Day to discourage GOP.

2004, Nov. – Bush Wins Re-election 51 – 48 with over 62 Million votes.

2004, Nov. – GOP makes huge gains in both the Senate and the House.

2004, Nov. – Insane liberals claim the election in Ohio was stolen.

2005, Jan. – Sen. Barbara Boxer embarrasses herself by protesting the Election Results.

2005, Jan. – Democrats say the election in Iraq will be a blood bath.

2005, Jan. – 8 Million Iraqis vote. Their turnout nearly matches ours.

2005, Apr. – Lebanon defies Syria. Moves toward kicking them out.

2005, Spring – Terrorists begin large car bombing campaign in Iraq. Democrats celebrate

2005, July – Bush Job Approval hits new all-time low according to lib media polls.

2005, July – Media puts Karl Rove in jail. Media resurrects ‘Bad tan’ Joe Wilson.

2005, Aug. – Media gives bullhorn to Cindy Sheehan.

2005, Aug. – Iraqis create their First Constitution.

2005, Aug. – Hurricane Katrina blows Cindy Sheehan off the map.

2005, Sep. – Media and Democrats blame Bush for the delay in the response.

2005, Sep. – Bush Job Approval hits new all-time low according to lib media polls.

2005, Sep. – Bush sends General Honore to take control. The military succeeds.

2005, Sep. – Bush delivers speech that uplifts America and demoralizes Democrats.

2005, Sep. - On the verge of having John Roberts confirmed. The Teflon Bork.


47 posted on 09/19/2005 1:11:37 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: areafiftyone

Good analysis by Pat. Bush has been a major disappointment. As a conservative, I don't find a lot to cheer about in Bush's promise of multi-billions of federal hurricane spending (how do YOU spell "government waste and inefficiency"), anymore than I did in his signing the highway bill and his promises to world bodies that he is going to "pledge" billions of American taxmoney for foreign welfare payments to one hellhole after the next. (And don't get me started on the budget-busting, FDR-style Medi-Pill bill.)

Buchanan's 2000 bid for the presidency was ridiculous. But he is without question a conservative. Bush OTOH is a big government type, pure and simple.


48 posted on 09/19/2005 1:22:08 PM PDT by reelfoot
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To: areafiftyone

So? It's not like he or any other senior member of his administration has Presidential ambitions (no offense Condi fans). In fact, the last time neither party nominated either the sitting President or a senior member of the sitting administration was Eisenhower vs Stevenson in 1952. Before that was 1920 (Harding vs Davis).


49 posted on 09/19/2005 1:30:43 PM PDT by bobjam
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To: bobjam

elections in both 2006 and 2008 will hinge, in part, on how americans feel about the administration - even though Bush is not running. Rove may not care, but we do. you can already see the Dem political operation for 2006/2008 revving up on threads here - even though Bush is not running, they are going to be running on the Bush record. so its imperative that things like iraq and gas prices improve, and this katrina thing does not become a fiscal atomic bomb and a costly beauracratic rebuilding effort.

the Dems will try and present to americans that "things are out of control". iraq, gas prices, Katrina, budget, etc. and to the degree that swing voter americans buy into that, they will be more likely to vote for change, and that will hurt republicans.


50 posted on 09/19/2005 1:37:43 PM PDT by oceanview
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