Posted on 09/07/2005 7:01:49 PM PDT by NYleatherneck
Talk about train-wreck TV. The female guest was an embarrisment, and is a prime example of what is wrong with a certain part of an "unnamed" community.
What are you talking about n00b?
I missed it. What was said?
Also embarrassing... my spelling. please substitute "embarrassment"
I don't agree. That community has a name ... it's called LIBERALS
I saw it. Pathetic is the best I can say; she was uninformed and unprepared and all she could do was say this was because Bush hates blacks. Thank goodness the black man that was on was much more intelligent and prepared.
Yeah, I saw it. Bill thrashed her ... but gently. It was artistic.
Well if it walks like a duck and acts like a duck... it only produces one thing!
Please be less descriptive, you almost expressed an idea.
Is this the community formerly known as New Orleans?
Yes I am about to post the video of the segment here:
http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/09/07/oreillyrace/
Until we start "naming" that community the way liberals have, we will NEVER solve problems. I would rather go with All men are created equal but since the progressive leftist have divided us up into groups then we must, without flinching criticize those groups all the while making our point clear. We feel everybody has the capacity to be responsible for themselves and to the societal compact.
Watch out Leatherneck, I agree with you.... and I AM A RED SOX FANATIC
On a side note, I did like O'Reilly's idea of having retired generals investigate this out of the media spot light. If anyone can organize on a massive scale it is the military.
Nooooooooooooob
Thanks. I'll have to catch the rerun.
This Black woman is an editor of the Amsterdam News, a respected Black newspaper widely read in Harlem, New York. Unfortunately, she borders on being a complete moron. I must admit O'Reilly, very tactfully, ate her alive. The Black community, or most of it suffers badly from a bad case of denial. With leadership like hers, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP and the Democrat "slavery" Party, American Blacks are by their own choice dooming themselves to permanent status at the bottom of the political, economic and opportunity totem pole. Hispanics and Asians are whisking by you as if you were standing still. What a shame, that Blacks can't see the world the way it really is. Go figure!!!
bttt
I will say it. Most black liberals are racists against whites.
The woman was a garden variety Liberal, nothing more.
If I had a penny for every time a Liberal argument amounts to mind-reading what Bush 'feels' or what he "probably thinks", I'd be a gazillionaire by now.
The other person (black male) on the segment was logical and eloquent.
I was hoping for her sake that she was overtaken by the spirit of Robert Duran and just said "No mas." It was sad.
I think I figured that out about 20 years ago in college. At the time it was common to hear that blacks could not be racists because racism is "prejudice plus power" and since blacks didn't have any power (by their definition) their prejudice could not be racist. I figured that such a convoluted definition could only come about because they were racists, knew they were racists, and didn't want to be called on it. So, rather than changed their behavior, they tried to change the definition of the word.
borders? she's freaking queen of morontown
LOL!!!
Yes, Black liberals are generally racist period.I see conservatives not as people part of an identity group but as good neighbors.
as for this women's comment about the schools and no money for education??
N. Orleans school funds missing
Audit: More than $100 million over four years
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3341719/
I had not seen O'Reilly in quite a while but I saw that segment. The woman was a dunce and pathetic, unable to back up her "arguments" that Bush backs racist policies. I can only imagine how bad her publication must be. O'Reilly was patronizing to the airhead. He let her off easy. If a white man had gone on that show and said something as dumb, O'Reilly would have torn him a new one.
Thanks for the clip. I watched it. I hope everyone who can, does.
This kind of imbecilic crap needs to be exposed. I cannot fathom how someone so shamelessly put their stupidity on display. But I'm glad they do.
I saw the segment but do you have access to a transcript of the conversation?
I would be just as ashamed if a white guy got on the show and claimed something just as stupid without facts.
Thanks for posting the video.
Thanks for the link.
thank-you, thank-you! Another peice of the puzzle.
No, she's the mayor!
I tried to watch part of BOR but when he started complaining that the National Guard wasn't on the ground before a hurricane I just left the room.
At 27, Elinor Tatum has not let age prevent her from becoming the first female Editor in Chief of the Amsterdam News.This was an amazing success for a woman who, at a young age, suffered from dyslexia.
When it began publishing, the Amsterdam News was one of 50 black newspapers in the country. It is one of the longest running Black newspapers in America. The paper was started in 1909 by a man named James H. Anderson. In 1971. Bill Tatum joined forces with seven other investors, which included John Edmonds, former Mayor David Dinkins, Percy Sutton, and John Procope. Together they purchased the Amsterdam News from the owner C.B. Powell. Over the course of the years, Bill Tatum eventually bought out all the other shareholders and became the sole owner of the Amsterdam News.
In December of 1997, Bill Tatum stepped down as Editor in Chief, passing the position to his daughter, Elinor Tatum. Ms. Tatum originally began working at the Amsterdam News as an intern. Her position included clerical work such as getting coffee, making photocopies, and sending faxes. Later she started moving into the field of journalism.
Now Elinor is running the weekly paper on her own. As of now, she can't see the difference between her father's style and her style of running the Newspaper, however many people feel there's a lot more to be done. There is a general feeling among many African Americans to whom HarlemLive spoke, that the Amsterdam News has been catering to the elite of the Harlem Community. Ms.Tatum maintains that the latest issues of the Amsterdam news have been acclimated to a broader group of people from the Harlem community. The circulation of the Amsterdam News has dropped from 58,905 in 1977 to the current circulation of 25, 962 according to the New York Times . Ms. Tatum believes that the decrease in circulation is attributed to the increased competition from other black newspapers and the New York dailies.
Technologically, the Amsterdam news is behind many of the other newspapers in Manhattan. It's one of the most well know newspapers in Harlem yet it's not on the Internet. Ms Tatum is starting to put forth efforts into getting the Amsterdam News on-line. According to the New York Times the Amsterdam news has only one computer within the administration, and does not have the technical equipment to perform on-site layout and printing. The Amsterdam News uses outside companies to perform both of these tasks.
The Amsterdam News has a staff of about 50, mostly African Americans on hand and without them there would be no paper, Ms. Tatum points out. HarlemLive also had a chance to speak to Robert Seixas, Ms.Tatum's Assistant. Mr.Seixas does Editorial work and helps out Ms. Tatum a great deal. Robert says it is a blessing to be young. He does so much at the Amsterdam News and Elinor does not know where she would be at if it weren't for him. They have known each other since College. Both attended New York University graduate school of journalism and went into the newspaper business. together. They will work to bring Amsterdam News back to it's once, more prominent status.
http://tinyurl.com/9n29r
Does anyone really give a hoot about skin color?
Here in the Houston area we have had a lot of people that have been, strangely enough, bussed in. I know of several families who happen to be black that are staying in an area where people are well off and mostly white. A church is helping the folks out and I assure you they are stunned by the kindness they have been given. If the shoe was on the other foot I bet the same thing would happen.
You have no idea, as a Norwegian that comes from a musical large family, how that photo cracked me up. I'm sending it on....Thanks! lol
New York's Black Newspapers Struggle to Matter
By Daren Briscoe
When Elinor Tatum was 13, she told her father that she thought he should run for mayor.
"He told me 'I don't need to run for mayor. I have more power where I am,'" Tatum said. Her father, Wilbert A. Tatum, was then publisher of the New York Amsterdam News. Founded in 1909, the Amsterdam News is the oldest continuously-published black newspaper in New York.
Wilbert Tatum was exaggerating, but his boast reflected awareness of what was the Amsterdam News' impressive reach and influence. Until the late 1970s, the paper's paid circulation was close to 80,000. In 1997, Tatum handed the reins to his daughter. Today, according to senior vice president Selvin Michael, paid circulation for the Amsterdam News hovers around 22,000.
At 30, Elinor Tatum may be younger than most of the things in her office on Frederick Douglass Boulevard in Harlem. A stopped clock hangs high on the wall. Battered olive-green filing cabinets line one wall - a toaster-sized Rolodex squatting atop one. A sleek new laptop on the desk is one of the few signs of the modern era.
"When I took over, there was not one computer in the editorial department," she said. "Now there's one on every desk. There was no voicemail, and we've installed a whole new telephone system." Several pictures of Tatum and her father hang from the wall of her office. They show an elder Tatum - short, rotund, dark skinned and serious, with a taller and fairer Elinor, whose mother is Czech. In the pictures, Elinor is usually wearing flattering dresses and beaming. In her office, she was more serious, wearing faded blue jeans and a sweater. The corners of her brown eyes crinkled from the smoke of Marlboro cigarettes she chain-smoked. "We've brought the paper," she said, "into the 21st century."
There is little doubt that Tatum's paper is an icon. By merely surviving for nine decades, it has done what many publications cannot - endure. But the Amsterdam News has done more than merely survive; it has played a vital role in the civil-rights movement by unabashedly catering to a black audience and offering a platform for black luminaries from W.E.B DuBois to Malcolm X and Adam Clayton Powell.
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"If you took the New York Post and the Amsterdam News for a week, and read them both in100 years, you'd think you were in two different places," she said. "We operate in some ways as a counter to the mainstream press. They have to show what sells. We show all sides, because guess what? Our folks are not just rapists, drug dealers and murderers."
Tatum always knew she would take over for her father someday. "He didn't have to sit me down and tell me," she said. Tatum got her first published piece at 8, when her father ran an essay she wrote about how to get him to spend more time with her. Eventually she found a solution - spending time at the Amsterdam News would give her more time with her father. After graduating from Sarah Lawrence College in upstate New York, where she was a reporter and section editor for the school paper, Tatum spent some time in Stockholm, Sweden, where she studied international relations and social welfare. When she returned to the states, she went to work for the Amsterdam News.
"I started at the bottom of the bottom," Tatum said. "Making coffee, getting lunch, making photocopies." She worked her way up to covering her own beat, the City University of New York, and then to assignment editing and layout. In 1996, Tatum decided to return to school, enrolling in New York University School of Journalism. On Dec. 5, 1997, the day she finished her coursework, Tatum went with her father to a dinner held by the New York Association of Black Journalists. Someone suggested that Elinor look at the evening's program.
"There were some words from my father about the future of the paper," she said. "It was signed, 'William A. Tatum, publisher emeritus and chairman of the board; Elinor Tatum, publisher and editor-in-chief.'"
Elinor Tatum said that the major changes at the paper since she took over have been technological, buying computers, installing the new telephone system and preparing to take the Amsterdam News online. She said the Amsterdam News is involved in a program with the National Newspaper Publishers Association, a trade association of African-American-owned papers, to get the majority of black newspapers online by the end of 2001. "That's another project," she said. "It's going to be a matter of when I have time to do it. The web is too fickle an outlet to not do it right."
In the meantime, Elinor Tatum's Amsterdam News is much like Bill Tatum's Amsterdam News. The latest issue features front-page articles on Al Sharpton's recent visit to the Sudan, racially charged riots in Cincinnati, and an editorial written by Bill Tatum - the 109th in an ongoing series - calling for the removal of New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. Other articles focus on Navy bombing on the Puerto Rican island of Vieques, opposition to the possible hiring of an officer connected to the Amadou Diallo case by the New York Fire Department, and Mississippi's vote to retain a state flag that prominently displays the flag of the Confederacy.
The paper has full-page ads from Con Edison, Verizon, and General Motors. A handful of reporters (the Amsterdam News employs four full-time) seem to write most of the paper's articles, but the 56-page issue covers a wide range of issues and topics. There are sections on international news, health care, sports, trends and business, as well as a four-page classified advertising section.
http://tinyurl.com/blbl6
wow...thanks for the link.
I too saw the piece on O'Reilly. The woman was a light weight...intellectually, factually, and also from a stage presence point of view. Total loser. I trust that she will reflect on her performance, perhaps even watch it a few times if some good friend taped it. Unfortunately, rather than do an introspective, reflective evaluation of the performance....she will simply grow more nasty and hysterical which continues to make her acceptable to the same kind of thinkers she normally circulates with from the far left. What a pathetic existance.
Let's not forget, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.
Here's an even more true statement: Most white liberals are racists against whites.
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