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Big-Screen Televisions [What exactly does the word "poverty" mean in the USA?]
slate.msn.com ^ | Aug. 24, 2005 | Bryan Curtis

Posted on 08/26/2005 5:55:38 AM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

Why would anyone piss away all this money for a widescreen tv? There's not a damn thing on it worth that much.


81 posted on 08/26/2005 8:51:42 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Rightly Biased

END RESULT: We'll have to take the top off the double-wide!


82 posted on 08/26/2005 9:02:45 AM PDT by montomike (Gay means happy and carefree...not an abomination against nature's check valve.)
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To: montomike

Leave it on the porch and screen it in.


83 posted on 08/26/2005 9:06:58 AM PDT by Rightly Biased (<><)
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To: agrarianlady
It's depressing, yes, but very understandable to see how a TV would be most desirable.

Indeed. And $100 will get you a very serviceable one, brand new, and of decent size. (Small ones and used ones can be had for much less, of course.)

What rankles is not the leisure implied by TV ownership; it's that a surprising number of people spend on frivolous luxury items an amount of money sufficient to change their placement in society.

84 posted on 08/26/2005 9:08:14 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: RadioAstronomer
Books are my vice!

If that were true, you'd have bought a car with a trunk. ;^)

85 posted on 08/26/2005 9:12:03 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: Physicist
surprising number of people spend on frivolous luxury items an amount of money sufficient to change their placement in society.

Does that include Corvettes? :-)

86 posted on 08/26/2005 9:56:02 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Physicist

You might be surprized how many books I can fit in that thing. :-)


87 posted on 08/26/2005 9:56:29 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: grundle

They're only doing what our government does every day.


88 posted on 08/26/2005 9:57:52 AM PDT by FreedomAvatar (Gravity is only a theory - Teach the controversy)
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To: agrarianlady
This thread is strange - judging people with no money for spending what little they have on TVs. They can't take vacations, can't afford gas, probably don't have a nice place to take a walk. Most probably don't like to read. They rent so they don't spend time fixing up their place. It's depressing, yes, but very understandable to see how a TV would be most desirable.

As I see it, the complaint is not that people buy expensive televisions; it is that those same people will cry poverty and expect to be supported by public funds. It rankles to see one's hard-earned money taken away and given to maintain people in idleness.

What's worse, most of us realize that doling money to the idle does them no good at all. Indeed, it probably does them harm. It certainly does not help them get to the root of their problems.

I think you said something profound when you talked about the inability of some "to think of anything else to do." Too many people lead empty lives, which they attempt to fill by buying things.

89 posted on 08/26/2005 10:20:20 AM PDT by Logophile
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To: grundle

I hate to admit to watching "Cops" sometimes, but I have noticed and remarked to my husband they always seem to have large TVs and all kinds of stereo equipment in the more down and out homes.


90 posted on 08/26/2005 10:29:37 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier
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To: WKUHilltopper

It can be pawned when cash is needed I guess.


91 posted on 08/26/2005 10:33:53 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier
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To: Bob

In NY you are. If you publicly advertise a place for rent, you're obligated to accept whoever wants it - otherwise you're open to all kinds of very costly discrimination lawsuits.


92 posted on 08/26/2005 11:09:53 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: agrarianlady
judging people with no money for spending what little they have on TVs.

The point is that they don't have money because they spent it on TVs - and then demand rent money from workers' pockets.

It's the idea that someone blows their last $5000 on a TV and then demands the gov't pay their $500/mo rent for the next 10 months ... and that the gov't makes us foot the bill instead of making them sell that TV first.

93 posted on 08/26/2005 11:16:31 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Bigg Red
You can find that piece in his book 'Letters to a Young Conservative".

IIRC After he came here as an exchange student he was corresponding to someone he knew in India that wanted to come to America and that was his reason why; he was fascinated by a country where there can be overweight poor people.

94 posted on 08/26/2005 4:55:57 PM PDT by perfect stranger ("Hell Bent for Election" by Warburg)
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To: Bigg Red
In today's America, the majority who live in poverty are in those circumstances because of such poor choices.

Of course, liberals paint that as racism. Since wages are becoming more similar for whites and blacks, they now hysterically point to the huge disparity in wealth... even though freedom of choice is the root cause for the disparity! This story shows the primary reason for the gap: those who adhere more to urban culture tend to purchase consumption goods, while others choose to spend their time, money, savings and efforts on home ownership, a small business, and/or investment for their later years.

95 posted on 08/26/2005 5:07:27 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: agrarianlady
This thread is strange - judging people with no money for spending what little they have on TVs. They can't take vacations, can't afford gas, probably don't have a nice place to take a walk. ... It's depressing, yes, but very understandable to see how a TV would be most desirable.

It's understandable, as boozing or doping oneself into forgetfulness is understandable, but IMHO similarly self-defeating.

(Not meant as a strict comparison. You don't get cirrhosis and the like from television, though of course one may drink oneself to death in front of a 50-inch screen, and I suspect some do).

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In that vein,

“A man may take to drink because he feels himself to be a failure, and then fail all the more completely because he drinks.”

-- Orwell, Politics and the English Language.

96 posted on 08/26/2005 5:27:12 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Teacher317

They can even get a new computer system for $35.99 a week!!

http://www.mozillaquest.com/Hardware05/BlueHippo_Computer_Ripoff_Story01.html


97 posted on 08/26/2005 5:36:32 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: ctdonath2

I completely concur that the public dole is useless in these circumstances.

TVs depress me in general. Hubby bought a nice new one (LCD). Not grandiose but nice enough. Our old one of 15 years made a high-pitched whine and was irritating. It would be better if it weren't here as I often let the children watch it. (Just little kid shows). I am glad they don't need it very much, though. We went without any broadcast or cable TV for a long time (economic necessity) and they learned to have fun doing other things.

Now back to my housing bubble blog.


98 posted on 08/26/2005 7:20:40 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: RadioAstronomer
I never bought a big screen TV. A 32 inch Sony CRT is the largest I have ever had.

Yeah, but your radio cost ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

< |:)~

99 posted on 08/29/2005 9:43:04 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Imaginary-American)
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To: martin_fierro
Yeah, but your radio cost ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

LOL! I wish. Try just a wee bit more. :-)

100 posted on 08/29/2005 10:01:32 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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