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Fake retired Marine general may face charges Man wore rows of unearned medals, insignia, eyepatch
http://msnbc.msn.com ^ | 8 19 05 | The Associated Press

Posted on 08/19/2005 3:29:34 PM PDT by freepatriot32

SHREVEPORT, La. - William Lawson looked every bit the retired Marine general this summer as he stood before a crowd of 200 people, demanding that a cemetery properly dispose of the American flags placed at the graves of veterans.

He had on khakis, the Marines’ summer service uniform, complete with a general’s stars and row after row of medals, including the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart and Good Conduct Medal. He even wore an eyepatch.

It turns out, however, that Lawson wasn’t a general at all — or even a World War II combat veteran. His 19 months in the Marines were all spent stateside — he ended boot camp after Iwo Jima — and he never rose above the rank of private first class.

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this guy is in deep trouble
1 posted on 08/19/2005 3:29:38 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32

From the John Kerry School of War Heroism


2 posted on 08/19/2005 3:31:03 PM PDT by My2Cents ("The essence of American journalism is vulgarity divested of truth." -- Winston Churchill)
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To: freepatriot32

You can get all that stuff at any military outlet store. They should be issued through the military only.


3 posted on 08/19/2005 3:31:35 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: freepatriot32

I can't find words for this.

I spent 12 months in Vietnam as a cook at a firebase, and got out of the Army as a Spec 4. No big heroism; I just fed soldiers. I can't understand why someone would do all this.


4 posted on 08/19/2005 3:31:43 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: freepatriot32
Stolen honor.

They say no one is an ex-marine. He may just qualify.

5 posted on 08/19/2005 3:31:54 PM PDT by mware (Trollhunter of Note)
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To: freepatriot32

'this guy is in deep trouble'

The guys age will keep him from getting a beating from the young marines. Hopefully he'll steer clear of any Korean war vets for his sake.


6 posted on 08/19/2005 3:32:41 PM PDT by Bogey78O (*tagline removed per request*)
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To: freepatriot32


"It just sort of snowballed." Yeah, right.


7 posted on 08/19/2005 3:32:47 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: freepatriot32

Disgusting


8 posted on 08/19/2005 3:33:07 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: freepatriot32
Maybe he took the same military promotional training that J 'F'n K took!


Kill A Commie For Mommie
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9 posted on 08/19/2005 3:33:29 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("If it's brown, drink it down. If it's black send it back." Homer's guide to drinking in Springfield)
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To: My2Cents

Ok so you beat me to it.


10 posted on 08/19/2005 3:34:12 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: freepatriot32
18 USC Sec. 704

01/19/04

-EXPCITE-

TITLE 18 - CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE
PART I - CRIMES
CHAPTER 33 - EMBLEMS, INSIGNIA, AND NAMES

-HEAD-
Sec. 704. Military medals or decorations

-STATUTE-
(a) In General. - Whoever knowingly wears, manufactures, or sells any decoration or medal authorized by Congress for the armed forces of the United States, or any of the service medals or badges awarded to the members of such forces, or the ribbon, button, or rosette of any such badge, decoration or medal, or any colorable imitation thereof, except when authorized under regulations made pursuant to law, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(b) Congressional Medal of Honor. - (1) In general. - If a decoration or medal involved in an offense under subsection (a) is a Congressional Medal of Honor, in lieu of the punishment provided in that subsection, the offender shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both. (2) Definitions. - (A) As used in subsection (a) with respect to a Congressional Medal of Honor, "sells" includes trades, barters, or exchanges for anything of value. (B) As used in this subsection, "Congressional Medal of Honor" means - (i) a medal of honor awarded under section 3741, 6241, or 8741 of title 10 or section 491 of title 14; (ii) a duplicate medal of honor issued under section 3754, 6256, or 8754 of title 10 or section 504 of title 14; or (iii) a replacement of a medal of honor provided under section 3747, 6253, or 8747 of title 10 or section 501 of title

11 posted on 08/19/2005 3:34:35 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: freepatriot32
He should be obligated to apologize to every living Marine individually and when he is done he should be forced to beg forgiveness at the grave of each and every Marine that reported to Heaven.


12 posted on 08/19/2005 3:34:36 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I bet there are a lot of GI's who you fed think you are a hero. Thanks for your service.


13 posted on 08/19/2005 3:35:25 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: freepatriot32

He could still run for President of the United States as a Democrat.


14 posted on 08/19/2005 3:37:04 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: freepatriot32

sad.


15 posted on 08/19/2005 3:37:09 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: U S Army EOD

"I bet there are a lot of GI's who you fed think you are a hero."

I dunno. I sure as heck wasn't up to the level of culinary art you could get at Denny's.


16 posted on 08/19/2005 3:37:36 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: freepatriot32

I'm sure this is the wrong reaction but I laughed out loud at reading this.


17 posted on 08/19/2005 3:37:41 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: freepatriot32

Obviously, a dim bulb. But, he need some jail time. Could he be proseuted by the military and do his time on Parris Island brig?


18 posted on 08/19/2005 3:39:21 PM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Denny's wasn't over there cooking but you were, so thanks again.

99th Ord Det (EOD) RVN 72/73


19 posted on 08/19/2005 3:40:01 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (WHEN JANE FONDA STARTS HER TOUR, LET ME KNOW WHERE SHE IS)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I dunno. I sure as heck wasn't up to the level of culinary art you could get at Denny's.


I'm not sure about that. I'll bet your legs were just as hairy as the waitresses have at Denny's.


20 posted on 08/19/2005 3:40:08 PM PDT by HighWheeler (RATS hero is an impeached, dis-barred, lying, perjuring, cheating, lazy, cowardly sexual predator)
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To: HighWheeler

"I'm not sure about that. I'll bet your legs were just as hairy as the waitresses have at Denny's."

Good point...


21 posted on 08/19/2005 3:41:54 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: darkwing104
he should be forced to beg forgiveness at the grave of each and every Marine that reported to Heaven.

I don't know if that would be a good punishment.I knew a few marines and i don't think any of the ones I knew made it into heaven but I almost guarantee you that they have satan backed into a corner right now and are taking over hell as we speak

22 posted on 08/19/2005 3:43:33 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

One of the best Christmas dinners in my life was at Pleiku in 1966 thanks to you guys.


23 posted on 08/19/2005 3:46:47 PM PDT by spectre
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To: freepatriot32
I have to kind to Marines. Even tough I retired from the Air Force I worked joint service for five years. I have two medals that were awarded to me by Marines.


24 posted on 08/19/2005 3:46:50 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
In my two years at Camp Pendleton the best service food happened away from the Messhalls....one, on a rusty old scow we were using for "wet net" training, and then again at the Naval Hospital at Camp Pendleton.

The day-in, day-out 'chow' at the standing messhalls totally sucked 80 percent of the time.

(This was 1966-68)

25 posted on 08/19/2005 3:46:55 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: freepatriot32
Dad says it's sad but the embarrassment will be worse - some admiral killed himself over a bogus Vietnam award ..

jane
26 posted on 08/19/2005 3:47:20 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("It Is Better To Have Loved And Lost Than To Be Married To A Psycho For The Rest Of Your Life")
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Tsk, Tsk. Wearing your cover indoors. That's unsat "General".


27 posted on 08/19/2005 3:47:45 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: mware

Once a Marine, always a Marine ... just not practicing it at the moment ....


28 posted on 08/19/2005 3:48:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: freepatriot32

I'm surprised he didn't run for President. Probably would've been more authentic than Wesley Clark...


29 posted on 08/19/2005 3:49:22 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Idiots and the Internet don't mix, no matter how hard Michael Moore tries.)
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To: freepatriot32

Our ship was just back from a year on the gun line (off the coast of Viet Nam, 1972) and this young kid came on board. He went on liberty wearing a chest full of medals similar to this story.

Funny thing was that the medals he wore were all from WWII. A couple of the guys saw him with this stuff on his chest.

Trust me, it was the LAST time he did something like that.


30 posted on 08/19/2005 3:50:36 PM PDT by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I wasn't in Nam; but I spent enough grunt time to know that anybody that could serve me hot chow in the field was worth a big thank you.

Semper Fi.


31 posted on 08/19/2005 3:50:39 PM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: freepatriot32

I bet he was a democrat! Gore? Kerry? I know! It was Hillary in drag! She always claimed she wanted to be a Marine.


32 posted on 08/19/2005 3:51:02 PM PDT by hombre_sincero
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Thankyou. I would have left a tip, but, you made me bus my own table.


33 posted on 08/19/2005 3:52:20 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 ( Heaven on Earth is where the nearest Starbucks is 60 miles away.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I read this in the Navy Times last week; cover on indoors was one of the things that got him busted. Another is that he has no pistol badge (kinda unusual for a commisioned type).


34 posted on 08/19/2005 3:55:08 PM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: darkwing104
He should be obligated to apologize to every living Marine individually and when he is done he should be forced to beg forgiveness at the grave of each and every Marine that reported to Heaven.
Oh please - lighten up. I'm former USMC and a 'Nam combat vet and this guy just doesn't bother me all that much. Believe me, there's been a lot worse.
35 posted on 08/19/2005 3:55:20 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: freepatriot32

Maybe I'm being cynical, but I've always been slightly suspicious of those guys who hang around Vietnam War memorials wearing boonie hats, parts of fatigue uniforms, and combat boots. Maybe they're the real McCoy, but if they are, it seems as though they're beating it to death. I served for twenty years on active duty, and had my share of good times and bad times, but that's all behind me now. My sole military-related adornment these days is a baseball cap with the insignia of my favorite unit.

My humble opinion is that anyone caught wearing an award or decoration to which he is not entitled should be looking at some serious jail time.


36 posted on 08/19/2005 3:56:49 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: SkyDancer

Depends. Boorda had a conscience. Don't know about this guy?


37 posted on 08/19/2005 3:56:50 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: oh8eleven
Oh please - lighten up. I'm former USMC and a 'Nam combat vet and this guy just doesn't bother me all that much. Believe me, there's been a lot worse.

The ones I had to work with would damn near skin this guy alive...I am talking about fellow SNCO's


38 posted on 08/19/2005 3:58:01 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: freepatriot32

Anti-war protester and President of Gold Star Families for Peace, Cindy Sheehan (L) of Vacaville, California holds hands with Iraq war veteran Benjamin Hart Viges during a sunset candlelight vigil at her roadside protest near the ranch of U.S. President George W. Bush in Crawford, Texas, August 17, 2005.

Anyone know if this guy is for real? He claims to have been in the 82nd Airborne.

39 posted on 08/19/2005 3:58:30 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I sure as heck wasn't up to the level of culinary art you could get at Denny's.

Heck, who is?

40 posted on 08/19/2005 3:59:40 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: billnaz

"Maybe I'm being cynical, but I've always been slightly suspicious of those guys who hang around Vietnam War memorials wearing boonie hats, parts of fatigue uniforms, and combat boots."

Those are, 99% of the time, phonies. The ones wearing their Sunday best are the real vets.


41 posted on 08/19/2005 4:00:29 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: DumpsterDiver

Well, Denny's comes to mind :)


42 posted on 08/19/2005 4:00:54 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: FreedomCalls
Anyone know if this guy is for real? He claims to have been in the 82nd Airborne.

I don't know if he is legit or not. I bet a few FReepers will research it. Never be afraid to question someone service. The ones who brag about it way too often are most fakes. Outside of mention on FR I never talk about my service because most people don't care to hear it.


43 posted on 08/19/2005 4:03:35 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104
C'mon, he's a 79 year old geezer with one eye. I ain't happy he did it, but your "punishment" was over the top.
44 posted on 08/19/2005 4:04:35 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Well, Denny's comes to mind :)

LOL.

Now I know where to go look if I need a job.

45 posted on 08/19/2005 4:04:35 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: oh8eleven
C'mon, he's a 79 year old geezer with one eye. I ain't happy he did it, but your "punishment" was over the top.

The embarrassment alone with probably kill him


46 posted on 08/19/2005 4:06:49 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104
The embarrassment alone with probably kill him.

The embarrassment alone will probably kill him


47 posted on 08/19/2005 4:10:43 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: FreedomCalls

No, but from his comments he sounds like a shitbird.


48 posted on 08/19/2005 4:11:43 PM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
I spent 12 months in Vietnam as a cook at a firebase, and got out of the Army as a Spec 4. No big heroism; I just fed soldiers. I can't understand why someone would do all this.

Don't degrade your contribution. Cooks are as necessary as an Infantryman. They can't fight if they don't eat. Even Cooks were subject to wounds at Firebases, Charlie didn't care what our MOS was, he just saw an OD Green Uniform.

As far as understanding, some just want to feel important. They like to brag to others what a hero they are and some even use thier false tours to run for public office and actually win. B.G. Burkett wrote a good book, Stolen Honor, exposing many who claimed Veteran status and used it to further their careers. It was even discovered that many who tesitified at sKerry's so called "Winter Soldier" investigation were just as phony as this guy.

49 posted on 08/19/2005 4:12:28 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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More on him: "My name is Benjamin Hart Viges and I am a veteran of this current war in Iraq. After September 11th I thought joining the army was a way to solve the problem we as Americans were facing. After spending a year in Iraq I was given a first hand experience of war. It showed me that the occupation was spurring on further violence which is contrary to why they told us we were there. When I came back I filed for Conscientious Objector status. After ten months I received CO status and was released from the army honorably. "
50 posted on 08/19/2005 4:15:27 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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