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To: MikeA
A few million Islamic troops invade the US, killing a half million Americans in the process, the majority of them civilians They tell you it’s for you own good – that you will be much happier under Islamic government once you have experienced it. You don’t believe them, but they have far superior weaponry and your only chance of inflicting significant casualties upon them seems to be improvised roadside bombs and suicide attacks.. Would most Americans active in such a resistance hesitate to put chemicals in our explosive devices to make them more deadly?

Please note that this isn't about who’s morally the more superior being or who has the more objectively “advanced” society, it’s about what the people on both sides *believe* to be the case.

And since were the roles reversed I would expect that Americans would adopt many of the same tactics as the Iraqis, it seems to me that when considering our chances of victory in Iraq by the attrition of the insurgents/terrorists there we would do well to ask how effective the same tactics would be against us if *we* were the resistance - one thing I’m pretty sure of is that it would take a much larger force of Islamic occupation troops relative to our population than we currently have in Iraq relative to theirs and many, many years, to wear down such a resistance here – assuming, that is, that such an effort could succeed at all.

12 posted on 08/16/2005 3:03:39 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: M. Dodge Thomas

"A few million Islamic troops invade the US, killing a half million Americans in the process, the majority of them civilians They tell you it’s for you own good – that you will be much happier under Islamic government once you have experienced it. You don’t believe them, but they have far superior weaponry and your only chance of inflicting significant casualties upon them seems to be improvised roadside bombs and suicide attacks.. Would most Americans active in such a resistance hesitate to put chemicals in our explosive devices to make them more deadly?"

Your post has the distinction of being the biggest bunch of moronic, unthinking drivel I've had the displeasure of reading perhaps during my entire lifespan. You draw idiotic equivalencies that ignore basic logic and human nature. What passes for "logic" is beyond flawed, it is dangerously ignorant.

First, if you do not understand that democratic free governance is the right of and indeed within the fabric of human nature for most rational human beings, and apparently you don't, then you really do not understand anything about the world.

In the clash of ideas throughout world history, democracy has proven the most resiliant and the most popular precisely because it meets human nature and doesn't rub against it. Is your racist assumption that somehow Iraqis are less cut out for democracy just because a few murderous animals in their perverted vision of Islam are against it?? Or is it a case of you being an ideological fellow-traveller with the people who have unleashed mass death on Iraqis just yearning to live a normal life free of tyranny, oppression and murder?

Do you REALLY buy the fiction that these terrorists represent the dreams and aspirations of the Iraqi people and that they are fighting for their sovereignty?? Do you for a minute think they prefer tyranny to freedom when 60% of risked death in January to show that they reject barbarism and to elect their own govt? And let's face it, many more would have gone if not worried about death threats from the people you imply represent the will of Iraqis.

Further, you seem to imply there is some justice in the indisriminate mass murder being carried out by these jihadists, that it's all about freeing the Iraqi people to be ruled by themselves free of foreign occupation. Again you are delusional. WE ARE THE ONES FIGHTING FOR IRAQ'S SOVEREIGNTY while the animals you try to equate to some romantic force of freedom fighters are the ones trying to impose a very foreign form of extreme religious governance upon Iraqis who have a much more secular tradition. Indeed, most of what is referred to as the "insurgency" but is more aptly described as the terrorist brutish assault force are now foreigner. And Iraqis even within the shrinking native force of terrorists are now rising up to fight them as we saw recently in Ramadi when these same pigs you shill for tried to expel Shiites from the town.

Finally, if foreign troops, even Islamic ones, came here to liberate us from a man who murdered 2 million of my fellow countrymen and people in neighboring countries as Human Rights Watch says Saddam did, I daresay most of us would welcome them. That being the case, they clearly would be the more enlightened ones as opposed to those who helped perpetuate such a regime. Contrary to the illogic you nurse, most people prefer to freed from intimidation and murder, even if a foreign force has to do it. Do you think the French, Germans, Italians or Japanese resented being freed from oppression? Do the Afghans? Indeed, do the Iraqis?? You are seriously deranged if you think so.

Finally, your figure that Americans have killed 500,000 civilians in Iraq is pure, vile, progandistic b.s. and garbage! There is no evidence for such a figure nor any basis for claiming we somehow intentionally target civilians like the pigs and vermin you try to equate to freedom fighters are doing.

Go back under whatever Islamic, terrorist apologist rock you crawled out from under. No one is interested in the Al Jazeera/Al Qaeda line you're peddling.


14 posted on 08/16/2005 3:34:56 PM PDT by MikeA
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