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"Grizzly Man" Movie Spurs New Looks at a Grisly Death
National Geographis ^ | August 12, 2005 | James Owen

Posted on 08/16/2005 12:04:38 PM PDT by ZULU

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To: ZULU
Katmai park rangers shot the thousand-pound (450-kilogram) male

At point blank range, with a .25 automatic pistol. In the belly.

21 posted on 08/16/2005 12:18:08 PM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: StrangerInParadise; ZULU

This guy and his doper girlfriend were considered eco-fools by the wildlife community. Their actions are viewed totally harmful by wildlife professionals.


22 posted on 08/16/2005 12:18:15 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: ZULU

Having just returned from an Alaskan fishing trip I can tell you the locals take the bear threat seriously. We never went out fishing on the river without an armed guide. I can post a picture of a bear attack if any are interested and will provide instrution on how to do the posting of pictures.


23 posted on 08/16/2005 12:19:17 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: ZULU

Bears will be, well, bears.


24 posted on 08/16/2005 12:19:45 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ZULU
I went to see Ron "Tater Salad" White last weekend.

One of his new jokes was: Wouldn't it be funny if this guy's father had told him all his life that "You'll never be sh**".

Brought down the house.

On a more serious note.

I saw a documentary about this guy last week (weird timing, huh). His camera was operating, but with the lens cap still on, so only the audio was on, while the bear was tearing them up. His last words appear to have been telling his wife to hit it with a frying pan.

Mine would have been "Shoot it,.....again"!!!

His stunts cost him, his new wife and a bear their lives. It seems to me that he probably also ultimately endangered other humans, as well as his "beloved" bears, by over-socializing them to human presence.

Grizzlies are amazing ans intelligent creatures, but you've gotta be insane to do what he did, armed or unarmed.
25 posted on 08/16/2005 12:20:45 PM PDT by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!!!)
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To: ZULU

The sounds of the bear chomping on this poor soul and his girlfriend are horrendous I heard. Does anyone know if Herzog uses these sounds in the film?


26 posted on 08/16/2005 12:21:39 PM PDT by eleni121 (ual9fyiung for student aid nd taking clleg level course at the same time!)
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To: ZULU
" his message that grizzly bears should be protected and preserved."

but his actions did EXACTLY the opposite.....

Treadwell did more harm than good....

don't people realize that if you want to protect wildlife, you make sure they stay wild.......

if bears would associate people and dogs with harm, they would never come near human beings and they would thus be able to live long lives.....

27 posted on 08/16/2005 12:22:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ZULU
In the end, his madness cost him his life, his girl friend's life and two bear's lives...
28 posted on 08/16/2005 12:25:24 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Bigoleelephant

To bad, but once a bear has the taste for human meat you can't take a chance it won't develope a preference.

I wonder if this guy and his girl friend were vegetarians? I've been trying to collect data on my theory that bears and mountain lions seem to be attracted to herbivores over carnivores. It's based on some advice given to me from some old high country residents.


29 posted on 08/16/2005 12:25:34 PM PDT by tertiary01 (It took 21 years but 1984 finally arrived.)
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To: gridlock
"Something tells me he wasn't whispering at the end there. Probably wound up as a "bear screaming-his-head-off-er"..."

basically, what I read was he was yelling at his girlfriend to "do" something while he was being eaten......

30 posted on 08/16/2005 12:26:32 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ZULU

I understand this bear whisperer gig was not his first choice. Among the other occupations he considered but did not pursue for some reason or other, were 'Shark Whisperer' and 'Nitroglycerin Juggler'.


31 posted on 08/16/2005 12:26:35 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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Treadwell was a stupid man. He professed to love the bears, but his stupidity killed himself and them---two dead people and two dead bears.


32 posted on 08/16/2005 12:27:06 PM PDT by Orca
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"Treadwell claimed to have identified 21 vocalizations and body languages in grizzlies.... the one he didn't recognize was the most important: "It was the one that says, Leave me alone." "

Or perhaps the one that says, "I'm starving, what's for lunch?"

33 posted on 08/16/2005 12:27:20 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (...or false prophet at the very least.)
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He does not. He heard them, through headphones, but refused to use them in the film. I heard an interview with him, and he acknowledged that the guy was nuts, a depressed alcoholic,and basically the film is about the man, and not about the bears. The fellow was highly deluded, and ended up dying in his delusions..in a rather horrible way.
34 posted on 08/16/2005 12:28:04 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun -T.Jefferson)
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Maybe he fell off the wagon.

There's that old, well, really old joke about the time Alaska became a state. A Texan, distraught that he was no longer
a resident of the biggest state in the Union heads up North.

He was told, to become a real Alaskan, you have to drink a bottle of whiskey in one gulp, wrestle a grizzly
bear barehanded and make love to an Eskimo woman all in one night.

So, he buys a fifth of whiskey, downs it in one gulp, and then then goes to find a bear. A couple of hours later
the would-be Alaskan stumbles through the door, his clothes shredded and his body covered with cuts and bruises, and
asks, "Where's that Eskimo woman you want me to wrestle?"

35 posted on 08/16/2005 12:30:40 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: tertiary01

This guy was killed while tent camping in a place he called the Grizzly Maze, a brushy area near a salmon run that was overrun with brownies due to some other nearby runs being slower than usual. There was no reason to kill the bear, as the area is not camped, only viewed by fly-in bear watching groups that don't typically go ashore.

Treadwell was a dope whose actions killed two wild bears that were no threat to humans. The book about it, also calle Grizzly Maze, is okay but not worth buying. I read it in about 90 minutes while sitting at Borders.


36 posted on 08/16/2005 12:32:19 PM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: tertiary01
If the bear had come down out of the woods and eaten somebody, we'd have a problem. He just ate the nearest thing.

My point is that if the guy wasn't there in the first place, the bear would probably still be eating fish and berries.

I don't know what they were. It sounds like an interesting hypothesis.

37 posted on 08/16/2005 12:32:23 PM PDT by Bigoleelephant
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To: tertiary01

This guy was killed while tent camping in a place he called the Grizzly Maze, a brushy area near a salmon run that was overrun with brownies due to some other nearby runs being slower than usual. There was no reason to kill the bear, as the area is not camped, only viewed by fly-in bear watching groups that don't typically go ashore.

Treadwell was a dope whose actions killed two wild bears that were no threat to humans. The book about it, also calle Grizzly Maze, is okay but not worth buying. I read it in about 90 minutes while sitting at Borders.


38 posted on 08/16/2005 12:32:41 PM PDT by usafsk ((Know what you're talking about before you dance the QWERTY waltz))
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To: ZULU

He needed one of Troy's Grizzy Suits!


39 posted on 08/16/2005 12:32:56 PM PDT by Ribeye (Protective headwear courtesy of "Reynolds Aluminum Products - Implant Suppression Division")
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'Nitroglycerin Juggler'

SNORT!

40 posted on 08/16/2005 12:34:02 PM PDT by gridlock (IF YOU'RE NOT CATCHING FLAK, YOU'RE NOT OVER THE TARGET...)
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