Posted on 08/13/2005 7:09:32 AM PDT by chiller
The decision by the abortion rights group NARAL Pro-Choice America to pull an incendiary ad attacking President Bush's nominee to the Supreme Court has produced a fresh round of recriminations within the Democratic Party and a return to a nagging question: Has the opposition lost its nerve?
....some choice pieces:
"Republicans don't mind running an ad that's entirely false, but Democrats have never learned, and I'm not sure many of them want to learn, how to play that kind of politics," said Robert Shrum, an adviser to several Democratic presidential campaigns. NARAL had to pull the ad, he said, because "they weren't getting support from any substantial quarter."
Democratic strategist Chris Lehane, who like Shrum favors hardball politics, protested that "we Democrats bring a well-thumbed copy of Marquess of Queensberry Rules while the other side unsheaths their bloody knives, with a predictable outcome." Lehane said the NARAL ad "was great, and exactly the type of offensive that breaks through in the modern age."
More confirmation that they've lost their mind. Using the Marquess of Queensberry rules? BBBBWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAA !!
Its kinda sad, and kinda fun to watch :-)
Both pot and kettle. A twofer.
Naw, Democrats aren't elitists....
...what in the heck does this even mean, anyway?
/Oil the Oiled?
Demwits get there Butts kicked again.
since when?
/Stalin and gang
Don't you wonder sometimes how a party that is so out of touch with reality even survives as well as it does? I swear, you have to have deep-seated emotional problems to be a Rat these days.
Where are the examples of Republican ads that are entirely false, Shrum?
It means that we are better at it than they are. And they keep getting caught lying.
And most Democrats are nodding their heads in agreement upon reading this, no doubt.
It is rediculous to compare the two.
In fact, given the amount of lawyers in the Dem party, the GOP cannot get away with the level of slander that the Rats get away with on a daily basis.
"Democrats Conflicted on Playing Rough"
But the Democrats are in full agreement in playing with themselves.
We ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait til they sense how threatening the Gorelick thing is for their Party. Gorelick's wall doomed all.
Lies, half-truths, contradictions, malevolence, obfuscation -- Mau-Mauing in other words. The only way to deflect the flak.
The usual leftist shenanigans. Expect heavy outpouring from the MSM's Democrat activists until the public is sick of it. Republicans to bail out first, I bet.
Cue the families who blame Bush for 9/11 -- off to join Ms Sheehan at Crawford. Opening soon, Michael Moore's "disAble Danger". This is serious. Hillary could be exposed. (Relax! Not literally exposed, I meant. . . .)
Robert Shrum is Monica to the KKK (Jack, Bobby, Teddy) and a failure as a democrat strategist.
This from the party that hoaxed negative National Guard memos and the media establishment that promoted the story without mentioning the controversy of the authenticity for a week.
This from the party that destroyed National Security documents from the National Archives before an investigation into the failures in procedure that permitted the 9-11 attacks to occur and the media establishment that downplayed the scandal.
This from the party that pushed the lie that President Bush was behind legislation to draft young Americans into "his" wars even though the only legislation in the House and Senate was authored by hard left Democrats and the story was pushed 24-7 (especially on Viacommie/SeeBS' MTV) by the media establishment.
Can't these fools just **** off?
Things have reached the point where it just doesn't matter what the Democrats choose to do, "return to sanity" not being one of the options under consideration. After decades of abusing truth, of hysterical and completely inappropriate behavior, of the sleaziest political attacks ever seen in this country (and we've seen some real nastiness), nobody is listening anymore. They've lost the media monopoly that was the glue that held their delusional worldview together, and all the MSM's reporters and all the MSM's womyn can't put the Democrat party back together again.
They were brought up to vote like their grandpappy and told that Republicans were the party of the rich and that Republicans are racists.
Democrats spend much every year beating that drum. Wouldn't want their voters to question the party.
You may not recall the media assault on Robert Bork, but I distinctly remember an ad with Gregory Peck claiming that Bork was a throwback racist.
Campaign ads are exempt from the truth in advertising rules. Not sure if one can charge libel or slander.
These aren't campaign ads. John Roberts is not seeking election. He is seeking appointment by elected officials.
DUAC must be exposed.
If Bork is some kind of "throwback" racist, why haven't the Democrats ever "thrown" Robert Sheets Byrd, former Grand Kleegle of the KKK, back?
He still uses the n-word and defends the practice by saying that there are white niggers as well.
The left doesn't care, they will say anything to anyone to push forth the agenda they already have decided on. Expect absolutely no consistency from Rats.
Marxism is only "accepted" by the masses when those in power can kill or imprison the dissenters.
This explains the failure of the Democrat business model.
I still say the country would be better off with slabder laws olong the lines of the UK.
I do , however, still think it is odd to have ads like this.
For the record, Bill Clinton (and his lawyers, editors, and ghostwriter) had to trim down "My LIfE" for the British edition. There was some agreement that some things in his book about Ken Starr violated British libel laws.
Imagine my surprise.
At the risk of appearing pedantic, Mr. Lehane, it is the MARQUIS not the MARQUESS of Queensbury. Get your facts straight.
fight=right
You're exactly right. I Never voted in my life till my TV broke down in Jan '89 and I started listening to Rush at the young and tender age of 47.
When I get into the details they look at me like a deer caught in headlights.
Mac: But our shenanigans are cheeky and fun.
Thorny: Yeah, his shenanigans are cruel and tragic.
Foster: Which wouldn't make them shenanigans, at all, really.
Mac: (Irish voice) Evil shenanigans!
O'Hagen: I swear to G_d, i'll pistol whip the next guy that says shenanigans!
Mac: Hey Farva. Whats the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy sh!t on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Farva: You mean Shenanigans?
"Republicans don't mind running an ad that's entirely false, but Democrats have never learned, and I'm not sure many of them want to learn, how to play that kind of politics," said Robert Shrum...
Translation into English..
"Republicans run ads that repeat actual quotations of what Democrats have said and that isn't nice as they use our own words against us. But we Democrats haven't learned and continue to spew outright lies and the dam sheeple ain't buying it but we keep trying anyway. We need a new 'hook'."
"Chris Lehane, who like Shrum favors hardball politics, protested that "we Democrats bring a well-thumbed copy of Marquess of Queensberry Rules while the other side unsheathes their bloody knives, with a predictable outcome." Lehane said the NARAL ad "was great, and exactly the type of offensive that breaks through in the modern age."
Translation into English...
"Lehane, who like Shrum depends on gutter ball filth and lies to trick the voters, whined that even with Democrats relying heavily on lies and vote fraud - which always worked in the past, the stoo-pid voters appear to be smartening up and in order to win again they must go even lower, like the recent NARAL ad did. Even though it contained not one iota of truth and was utterly repulsive, it could still sway a few moronic fence sitters, err 'undecided voters'."
bttt
I ran this through Bafflefish(TM) to distill the essence of the statement:
"Republicans run ads that repeat actual quotations of what Democrats have said and that isn't nice as they use our own words against us. But we Democrats haven't learned and continue to spew outright lies and the dam sheeple ain't buying it but we keep trying anyway. We need a new 'hook'."
and got:
"Republicans hold us to things we've said in the past. Things that our comrades in the media supress. Times are changing and leftist journalistic fraud has been exposed in virtually every newsroom. The pesants are revolting. Damn Al Gore and his internet!"
Some Democratic operatives say their trouble is congenital. "The problem is our politically impractical insistence on always residing on the moral high ground," said Jim Jordan, who was a longtime adviser to Kerry. "A large part of our ethos goes to what we perceive to be moral superiority and the sad truth is in politics that's sometimes inconvenient."
A number of Democrats still say the party's best hopes are on the high road. "We have to define the reckless left of our party and differentiate ourselves," said former Clinton aide Lanny Davis, who denounced the NARAL ad. He said such "smear and innuendo" has caused his party to lose recent elections.
I'm one who thinks we need a legitimate 2nd party. Competition makes everyone better, but now we haven't got any.
Because the people they attract are just as out of touch as their leaders . Think about it, of the people you know that believe the Democrat leaders, what are they like?
You can find them at www.rushlimbaugh.com.
It means pay no attention to those ads about James Byrd.
To make a statement such as this is EXACTLY the reason why the Democrats have a problem, They actually believe such statements to be true and factual.
Yeah, those anti-Breyer and anti-Ginsburg ads by pro-life groups were disgusting.
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