Posted on 08/12/2005 9:23:43 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued
Latest Marist poll shows Clinton a 50% to 28% lead over Pirro, down from 64% to 28% in April.
May she drop like a rock.
This is a good sign, given Pirro's recent entry.
If Clinton loses the bid for Senate, what do youthink that will do for her chances in '08?
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If she loses in New York, it knocks her out of contention. Even if she wins with less than she did in 2000, her prospects are damaged.
May God's will be done!
Pirro hasn't even started campaigning yet.
Either Mrs. Clinton agrees to a full term, or she won't win.
Mrs. Clinton is between a rock and a hard place. If she runs, she has to promise to fill a 6 year term, otherwise, she'll lose. It'll prove to the people in NY she was just using them.
If she quits the Senate, it proves she lied to the people of NY about using them as a stepping stone to the presidency.
Either way, if she tries to run in 2008, she's a liar just like her husband the rapist - Bill Clinton.
If it tightens up, I agree with Dick Morris, she will pull out and say she wants the top spot. She will be lionized by the media.
Hillary's evil media smear machine is in full attack mode. I am looking at a vile BS story in today's NY Daily News as we speak, implying that Pirro is a supporter of the mafia.
You are so right (see post 10). Never once has a NY media outlet ever asked Hillary anything other than a softball question.
bttt
This simply means Hillary's support is soft if the drop is that steep in a short span, a solid 28% will vote against Hillary no matter what. When Pirro becomes known to the state it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Well, the New York Post has been known to attack lefties, and it's owned by the owner of Fox News. I'm hopeful.
Given that Pirro hasn't even started campaigning and is picking up in the polls indicates that Hillary may be in trouble. However, the Clintons are experts at sliming opponents, conducting dirty campaigns, funneling illegal money and outright lying so I wouldn't count Hillary out until all the ballots are counted.
That's when she gets accused of lying to the people of NY for her own political gain.
She blatantly lied to them about using NY as a political stepping stone to the presidency.
Character DOES matter!
Remember, they can't use the "Bush lied about WMD's" because Clintons 98 address says the same thing. According to Bill Clinton, Saddams WMD's were the most important danger at the time - unless he was lying (again) to us as well as our President!
you guys are crazy if you think pirro has any shot at all. this new york everyone - new york. the only shot at all is running guliani and thats not gonna happen.
Hillary's points are down, but Pirio's havent' increased, thus a shakey basis for cheer. Where does Nixon's son-in-law Cox figure in the poll?
Hm. If hillary can't cream a republican in NY it could spell trouble in a presidential election
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Remember Mrs. Clintons Senate race. She SWORE up and down she wasn't a carpetbagger using NY to get to the presidency. She said all she wanted was to serve the people of NY.
If she tries to step out now, a lot of people will know she lied.
I'm from NY. I heard her squeal her crap day after day until she took her seat. All she lived for was the Yankees, NY, and her love for the state. She was not the least bit interested in leaving it - ever. Why, it was her REAL home.
She went so overboard to PROVE she wasn't just a carpetbagger using NY to get to the White house, it's "seared, seared" in the memory of every NY'er by now!
While Hillary will not likely be taken out of the Senate, we can hope that Pirro comes within 10 points. That would derail her faster than Carville could spin it.
Hillary has been a good Senator. I am serious. Look at her voting record in the Senate.
Yes, and allot of NYers didn't know his name, either. It was Rick Lazio. Guliani (who would have easily creamed her) dropped out, and a young unknown Lazio stepped in. Considering most people didn't even know his name, he really did very well against a well known liberal in NY!
Now add that to Mrs. Clinton scamming the people of NY, her record of doing nothing but hanging out in the NY lesbian camp, and the thought that the rapist will become the fist metro-sexual lady in the White House, and it may not go as smoothly as the last election.
Mrs. Clinton is unclean. She's covered in dirt.
>>I wouldn't count Hillary out until all the ballots are counted.
Which time? (Sorry, but it had to be asked).
Not a shaky basis at all if you understand the context.
New Yorkers do not know Pirro. They know Hillary Clinton. For Pirro's numbers to move up in a day when they don't know her wouldn't make sense.
What it highlights is that H.C. doesn't have automatic re-election numbers in the '60's as purported before. The drop shows that given knowledge they'll have a choice in the race, that a significant number withdrew the automatic support they gave when it looked like a race of one. As a Known commodity Hillary's numbers shouldn't have changed this dramatically in one day against an unknown commodity. During the coarse of the campaign as both candidates are known commodities, then it is natural for numbers to tighten and wouldn't necessarily mean trouble for Clinton.
Yes, a couple of others announced intentions to run such as Cox but they were never going to go anywhere in this race.
If Hillary's numbers are down to barely in the '50's against an unknown this soon? That means Pirro has an incredible opportunity to tighten this race below a majority number. The Clinton's know it, this is why they are throwing everything they have at Pirro the last couple of days while the other announced challengers barely ranked any notice.
How is it that Pirro's numbers didn't move upwards at all? What is the deal with the 14% who stopped idolizing Hitlery? Voting Undecided?
Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro was leading Sen. Hillary Clinton in an online poll Thursday night conducted by the most listened-to radio station in New York, 1010 WINS.
With over 3,000 New Yorkers responding, Pirro led Clinton by six-tenths of a point, 50.30 percent to 49.70 percent.
Though the WINS survey is unscientific, it continues a trend that began this week after Pirro announced she intended to challenge Mrs. Clinton. A Marist College poll released on Wednesday showed Clinton defeating Pirro, 50 percent to 28 percent. But while Pirro's number hadn't budged from an earlier survey in April, Clinton's support plummeted by 14 points.
Great analysis!
I think the key to success for Jeanine, is what Rick Lazio and his advisors failed to do, namely bring about a situation (forum)that does not allow Hillary to escape from having to prove this so-called "brilliance". This charlatan's career has been built on deception and blackmail alone. The pathetic sycophants under her spell have always been able to keep her from answering even one question that might expose the myth. They set up every press conference and debate accordingly, to avoid her having to commit to even one, single position that would bring honest scrutiny.
Truth-- this woman lacks the ability to run even so much as a yard sale, let alone this country.
There IS no brilliance, no intellect, no great vision, etc, only the skill of being able to prove P.T. Barnum's famous quote.
Go, Jeanine Pirro!!
All this shows is that there are some people who who like a change. Yes 14% is a lot but Pirro hasn't move an inch, not one point. So I think it says the right candidate might be able to hurt clinocchio, but not beat hurt. If the beast is in ANY trouble at all, the whole rat establishment will pour billions into the race. This is a rat saint we're talking about here after all.
When I first heard about her and saw her I thought, "She's an attractive, articulate and seemingly intelligent woman. This is great." But I had the feeling that I'd seen her before. Then, after reading more about her, realized that I'd seen her on Fox News giving her legal views during the Scott Peterson trial. Go Pirro!!
I see your a lover of John Kasich, too. His Saturday 5:00 Heartland is my absolute favorite. I'd vote for him for President - anything! Love the guy!
but at least with Pirro we have someone who has the chutzpah to put her promises in her face all the time and who will not back down from her.
Shhh- don't tell anyone we freeped it.
Red
I really look forward to a debate between H*****y and Pirro. Unfortunately, I don't think it will ever happen. Pirro will clean her crusty clock, and she can't affort that risk. Wonder what her excuse will be?
Ed Cox wasn't in this poll. But he was in the April poll, and Clinton lead him by 66% to 26%. The only thing he's notable for is his connection to Richard Nixon, and I can't imagine that helping his prospects. He should drop out.
The only NY media who ever asked her a direct question was Tom Bauerle - a local talk show host in Buffalo.
He asked her "did you ever use cocaine or smoke marijuana? She refused to answer and tried to make a joke of it so he asked her again. She never answered and the big news that week was that someone actually ASKED her such a question... No one ever bothered to try to get the answer out of her.
But look how they went after W for allegations of such...
(Stop) Hillary Clinton for President in 2008
'Civ | February 29, 2005 (a little joke) | 'Civ
Posted on 02/28/2005 9:31:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1352749/posts
Good point.
And that FACT has the clintoon camp upset that she has some real competition for senate.
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