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Poll: Hillary Slips, Pirro Gains
NewsMax ^ | 8/10/05 | AP

Posted on 08/10/2005 6:21:30 PM PDT by wagglebee

A new statewide poll says Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton's lead over potential Republican opponent Jeanine Pirro has slipped but still remains strong.

The WNBC-Marist College poll had Clinton leading the Westchester County district attorney 50 percent to 28 percent. Clinton led Pirro 64 percent to 28 percent in an April poll from Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion in Poughkeepsie. The new poll was conducted Tuesday, one day after Pirro announced she would seek the GOP Senate nomination.

A majority of New York voters, 56 percent of them, said they didn't know enough about Pirro to form an opinion about her.

Only 35 percent of voters said they wanted Clinton to run for president in 2008.

Marist's telephone poll of 400 registered voters has a sampling error margin of plus or minus five percentage points.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2006; hillary; hillaryclinton; jeaninepirro; marist; pirro; polls
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The AP can spin this anyway they want, but Pirro is clearly a threat. Hitlery cannot afford to lose in 2006, and I have a feeling that she will withdraw rather than ruin her White House bid in 2008.
1 posted on 08/10/2005 6:21:33 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

Please bring better news then 50% over 28%.


2 posted on 08/10/2005 6:23:22 PM PDT by freedrudge
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To: freedrudge

That is good news she lost 13% in 48 hours!


3 posted on 08/10/2005 6:24:18 PM PDT by since1868
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To: wagglebee

this isn't too bad. Pirro needs to run statewide TV ads right away to get some name recognition and introduce herself. what's her website, I'm sending money tomorrow.


4 posted on 08/10/2005 6:25:50 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: freedrudge

50% for an incumbant is pretty good news for us, bad for her highness.

The low numbers for Pirro as challenger just show that a lot of voters don't know her. 50% for Hillary shows the voters know her too well and the only way she can go is down.


5 posted on 08/10/2005 6:25:58 PM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: wagglebee

Good news. Once Pirro gets out there and starts campaigning Hillary better watch out. This is going to be a great race!


6 posted on 08/10/2005 6:26:36 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: since1868

I agree, there is over a year. As Pirro gains name recognition, Hitlery's numbers should slip even more.


7 posted on 08/10/2005 6:27:09 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: oceanview

I guess this is it:

http://www.jeaninepirro2006.com/


8 posted on 08/10/2005 6:27:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: wagglebee
I have a feeling that she will withdraw rather than ruin her White House bid in 2008.

I agree, and have been saying that for at least a year now. If any opponent gets in the 43-47 per cent range, Hillary will go on a "national listening tour."

9 posted on 08/10/2005 6:28:02 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Rommel, you magnificent bastard.....I READ YOUR BOOK!! - Gen. Patton)
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To: areafiftyone

Pirro isnt a conservative by a long shot but gettting rid of the beast should be the goal of all conservatives.


10 posted on 08/10/2005 6:28:30 PM PDT by rrrod
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To: wagglebee
Dick Morris speculates that, if Pirro gets within 12 points of Hillary by the end of the year, Hillary will drop out of the race and pursue the Presidency.

He thinks even a close Senate seat win would weaken Hillary's chances for the White House, so she can't take that chance. And she can't afford to invest the $millions in a Senate race with the intention of keeping the seat only 2 years.

[I don't see that she has a choice. If she drops out after 1 Senate term, that would not give her the political experience the general public would want. That was one of the major negatives against Edwards.]
11 posted on 08/10/2005 6:29:09 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Mia T
Looking at Pirro's website it seems to be high on 'political inclusion' images and her commendable work for children's safety.
I wonder what issues HRC will try to lead her to discussing.
12 posted on 08/10/2005 6:29:22 PM PDT by jla
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To: since1868
That is good news she lost 13% in 48 hours!

Of course, so if we have 462 days till election, Hillary will be -5956.

13 posted on 08/10/2005 6:29:56 PM PDT by freedrudge
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To: wagglebee

*****A majority of New York voters, 56 percent of them, said they didn't know enough about Pirro to form an opinion about... *****

She isnt Hillary , What more do you need to know?

I'll give you a hint, Pirro will spend 6 years as Senator she wont start running for President the day after she is elected. You see if you elect Hillary you wont have a Senator for 2 years before the election, just like Mass. didnt have a Senator with Kerry he spent 2 years running for President.Took his pay illegally too.Of course IMO you dont have a Senator now.

Also you will have a real New York resident , not a carpetbagger.


14 posted on 08/10/2005 6:30:16 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: oceanview

Pirro is a far more dynamic personality that Hillary who usually seems to be bored and/or evasive. And while Pirro's husband is no great bargain, Hillary and Bill are worse.


15 posted on 08/10/2005 6:32:43 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: freedrudge

ok


16 posted on 08/10/2005 6:33:02 PM PDT by since1868
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To: sgtbono2002

I would prefer to not have a senator than have any of the four leftist anti-Americans from NY or Mass.


18 posted on 08/10/2005 6:35:50 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Hillary Rodham Clinton after recent plastic surgery.

Hillary has had some more plastic surgery done. She's looking much better.

19 posted on 08/10/2005 6:37:05 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get all the incumbents out of politics!)
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To: wagglebee
I definitely will be sending Pirro money.
20 posted on 08/10/2005 6:44:46 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: isthisnickcool
Hillary has had some more plastic surgery done. She's looking much better.

Well, duh! Airbushing can only do so much.


lol.
21 posted on 08/10/2005 6:45:27 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: wagglebee
Even if Hillary managed a win, the fact that she had a real run for the money in New York would doom her presidential run. I think you're right, she's too smart to run for the senate again and risk losing it all.

She'll claim she's not running because she wouldn't want to cheat the people of New York.

22 posted on 08/10/2005 6:45:30 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: wagglebee

Her "lead"??? Didn't she just announce this week?


23 posted on 08/10/2005 6:45:50 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: McGavin999
If she does decide to drop out, whom might the NY Dems turn to for the seat...

Maybe....Bill?!?!?!?!

24 posted on 08/10/2005 6:47:04 PM PDT by TheBigB (Gum would be perfection!)
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To: McGavin999
If she does decide to drop out, whom might the NY Dems turn to for the seat...

Maybe....Bill?!?!?!?!

25 posted on 08/10/2005 6:47:36 PM PDT by TheBigB (Gum would be perfection!)
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To: wagglebee

Pirro can make Hillary look sluggish and inept. She is sharp and she can come up with answers quickly. If Hillary does want to run for presidency, then she likely will withdraw.


26 posted on 08/10/2005 6:48:38 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: wagglebee

Prediction: The witch is toast !


27 posted on 08/10/2005 6:49:35 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: isthisnickcool

She needs to get out in the sun more! (We all know what sunlight does to the likes of Hillary!)


28 posted on 08/10/2005 6:49:35 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: wagglebee
The Able Danger revelations, with obvious Clinton, Burger, Janet Sterno to jamie Gorelock foot prints, is a great issue for Jeanie to confront the beast.
29 posted on 08/10/2005 6:50:02 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Dante3
Pirro can make Hillary look sluggish and inept.

Although making Hitlery look "sluggish and inept" isn't exactly rocket science!

30 posted on 08/10/2005 6:52:08 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Hillary is up to her cankles in Pirronha already. And it's early! Nibble away, Jeanine. She CAN be brought down.


31 posted on 08/10/2005 6:52:17 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Obadiah

Dick Morris says to send Pirro the money now so she can get some ads for name recognition. Someone please post Jeanine's web site.


32 posted on 08/10/2005 6:52:30 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: areafiftyone
Dick Morris and a few others think Hillary might drop out of the race rather than risk looking bad before her potus try.
34 posted on 08/10/2005 7:02:25 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Time to get rid of the UN and the ACLU and all Mosques in the US,UK.)
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To: wagglebee
Pirro is a world class RINO. Pirro is nothing more than Hillery Lite. Pirro is anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro-affirmative action, anti-death penalty, pro-gay marriage, the list goes on and on. I almost sort of suspect that Pirro's candidacy is being funded/driven by the clinton people.
35 posted on 08/10/2005 7:02:35 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel (How come they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them??)
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To: rrrod
Pirro isnt a conservative by a long shot but gettting rid of the beast should be the goal of all conservatives.

Hillary is the physical embodiment of the anti-American, pure unadulterated evil through and through. It is a qualitative difference. Chuck Schumer is one of the most vile politicians on the planet, but he is nothing more than a vile politician -- they come and go. Hillary is in a whole 'nother class.

I'll root for any Democrat that can knock Hillary off her post. One less thing to worry about.

36 posted on 08/10/2005 7:02:39 PM PDT by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: wagglebee
Her official webstie:

http://www.jeaninepirro2006.com/

37 posted on 08/10/2005 7:03:19 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: areafiftyone

See post # 35!


38 posted on 08/10/2005 7:03:52 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel (How come they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them??)
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To: John Lenin

see post #8 for her website.


39 posted on 08/10/2005 7:05:14 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Conservative Infidel

When it comes to Hitlery, I would prefer a RINO any day.


40 posted on 08/10/2005 7:06:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Conservative Infidel

During the Scott Peterson trial, she came across as pro-death penality.


41 posted on 08/10/2005 7:10:26 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: wagglebee
I was looking forward to Rice slapping Hillary around. It looks like Pirro will beat her to it. She will close quickly and Hillary will drop out.

Hopefully Hillary will be the Dem nominee for Potus-she would get crushed. I have no idea why FReepers are afraid of her. She sounds like the Aflac duck.

42 posted on 08/10/2005 7:11:22 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: Conservative Infidel

So which one is better?


43 posted on 08/10/2005 7:11:29 PM PDT by savannah eagle
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To: TomGuy
Dick Morris speculates that, if Pirro gets within 12 points of Hillary by the end of the year, Hillary will drop out of the race and pursue the Presidency

And that will be a huge publicity hoot against her thighness. If Jeanine Pirro makes her cower and duck for cover, she'll not have a prayer to win the Presidency.

44 posted on 08/10/2005 7:14:05 PM PDT by demkicker (A skunk sat on a stump; the stump thunk the skunk stunk; the skunk thunk the stump stunk.)
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To: wagglebee
That's an amazing drop in that it shows people are willing to listen to a competitor for HRC's job. Now she has a year to convince voters she's the better choice.

This really is amazing news. Imagine Kennedy getting only 50% support the day a challenger announces. Doesn't mean Pirro will win, of course, but it indicates the ice is cracking and she CAN win.

45 posted on 08/10/2005 7:14:53 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious
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To: Dr.Hilarious

Read more:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1460986/posts


46 posted on 08/10/2005 7:16:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: sgtbono2002
...just like Mass. didnt have a Senator with Kerry he spent 2 years running for President.Took his pay illegally too.

And yet, we in the commonwealth somehow managed to survive with only one senator. It's not like losing a lung or a kidney. The entire Mass. congressional delegation could be beamed up to the mother ship tomorrow and nothing would change here in the people's republic. The argument that somehow NY gets victimized if their senator cuts short her term in office is hollow. If they dislike her, then they'll be happy to see her go; if they love her, they'll be delighted that now she's king of the mountain. This same weary argument gets trotted out every time an elected official makes a grab for the golden ring. It's fine to despise HRC (how can you not?) but let's not pretend that we're all upset that NY will no longer be represented or that Schumer will have to work 80 hour weeks to carry the double burden.

47 posted on 08/10/2005 7:16:09 PM PDT by Moosilauke
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To: wagglebee
Withdraw..Hillary? In our dreams..:)

sw

48 posted on 08/10/2005 7:17:03 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: savannah eagle
So which one is better?

Do you mean to tell me that in all of New York state, there isn't one conservative willing to run against Her A$$holiness? Why do you feel the need to "settle" for the first RINO that comes along??

49 posted on 08/10/2005 7:17:53 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel (How come they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them??)
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To: wagglebee

Let's hope this is the beginning of better things to come.


50 posted on 08/10/2005 7:19:24 PM PDT by Isabelle
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