Posted on 07/29/2005 3:10:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog
Charles Krauthammer of the Fox News All-Stars, just relayed that FRist had been supportive of ramping up support for embryonic stem cells research and said so in a speech to the Senate in 2001.
This was about one month before President Bush announced his decision to not expand embryonic research support in 2001.
FRist deferred to the President at that time and allowed 4 years to pass before now reaffirming that we need to do more research and need more lines of cells to work with..
"Orrin Hatch"
Yet another fake conservative. Wanted to give illegals in state tuition.
Great question...ROTFL
The Truth is that Frist was hanging by a string as it was. By alienating social conservatives to extent, he's just written off the only constiguency that hadn't crossed him off the list as a possibility. I'm not saying social conservatives feel the bond to him they do Bush or some other Republicans, but he wasn't on an adversary listing. Now he's joined in petitioning for the same voters McCain, Hagel, and others are fighting for. A small group as it is. Now, is Frist going to win those voters by doing this? Nope. They'll go for the real thing. He loses a significant portion of those that would at least keep an open mind. With this loss, all those that held their tongues but had written Frist off already, now have room to openly rip him to shreads because no one will rise to his defense.
Bad political move by Frist. And it was a political move. While i DO believe Frist has always favored this, he hasn't been upfront about it to the extent others have been. he's skirted around the issue, played the "nuance" game. That is the game of politics. It isn't the game of principle.
well, it would take something really juicy, really nasty, really evil, to get the leftists/democrats to fall in line like drugged puppies behind him like they have.
So did Mike Huckabee, Arkansas (R) governor.
man, you got ahold of some good sh*t!
That is pretty much the state of Tennessee!!!!!!!!!!
After Elvis it was all downhill.
I like Allen for many reasons, but the fact that he has gone on record with his belief that life does not begin at conception is going to be a political liability. Much of the "base" is not going to come out in support of someone whose stated position on abortion is "multiple choice." Didn't Allen say several years ago that life begins a few weeks after conception and that late abortions are wrong but that he would not rule out an early abortion for his daughter should she become pregnant? Many pro-life voters, myself included, cannot support a candidate with this position.
mark
You and your little birdie...it's not like what Our President did to the reporters when he left the capitol building...LOL...
Wow....it's sad when LEGAL citizens are PUNISHED by being forced to pay out of state tuition, PLUS the social costs of illegals (crime, health care, etc).
Animal Farm...in this case illegal animals are more equal than legal animals.
That is a crock. There are 63 clinical uses for adult stem cells right now. It is saving and easing the suffering of thousands of lives as we speak. Not ONE clinical use for embryonic stem cells exists.
I have three years to work on him! Don't give up on him yet Read this. Give him time!
Allen's belief is that life begins at heartbeat/brainwave (roughly 40 days, I think?) but my impression is he takes this type of cloning/human research stuff seriously. Obviously with his belief on the beginning of life -- which from what I can tell is honest and sincere, something I can respect though I very much disagree -- his calculus may be different from the "I think they're human but they can be destroyed" folks.
I'm trying to piece together his stand on this.
He places himself to the left of Bush's stand. He opposes all cloning, including "therapeutic". He supports extracting stem cells from embryos for research without destroying the embryos. It looks like he supports some sort of research on embryos "left over" from IVF. A Virginia life group says he and Warner both support research that destroys embryos. Also speculation that Allen has been moving rightward on the issue.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-07-25-stem-cells-senate_x.htm
http://www.sundaymorningtalk.com/smt/2005/05/george_allen_ag.html
That's what some of us tried to get Huckabee to explain to us. HE NEVER DID! His office just got nasty about it and told us we didn't "understand". Well, that's what we were trying to do by ASKING him to explain it!
Sometimes, not often, but sometimes Krauthammer disappoints me...
"His office just got nasty about it and told us we didn't "understand"."
That sounds like something a Democrat would say.
I WILL pull the lever for Allen in 08, regarding the other names floated about I would just stay home.
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