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Judge lays down own law: No all-white juries
Transcripts reveal controversial stand
Chicago Tribune ^
| July 25, 2005
| Jeff Coen
Posted on 07/25/2005 3:18:37 PM PDT by toddlintown
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And if this was a white judge with an all-white view??
To: toddlintown
Criminal prosecutors and insurance defense attorneys routinely strike black people just because they're black. Which is grounds for reversal on appeal. And judges hate to get reversed.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:21:41 PM PDT
by
CobaltBlue
(Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: toddlintown
Speaking as a former Chicago resident (1997-1999), how is it even possible to have an all-white jury in Cook County?
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:22:07 PM PDT
by
Clemenza
(JJesus CChrist MMade SSeattle UUnder PProtest)
To: toddlintown
"Folks, you all know I have a rule; I don't seat all white jurors,"If this quote is correct, she's not saying she wouldn't seat all white juries.
She's excluding any individual who doesn't have a little color in their blood.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:22:46 PM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: CobaltBlue
If we get to the point where juries must be selected strictly by quotas, we're in deep doo-doo.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:24:23 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: toddlintown
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:24:49 PM PDT
by
handy old one
(It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristotle)
To: Dog Gone
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:28:05 PM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
To: dead
To: <1/1,000,000th%
So let me get this straight. It's OK to have an all-black jury, as in the OJ Simpson criminal trial, but not an all-white jury in Chicago.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:37:50 PM PDT
by
ImNRA
To: Clemenza
At one time it was quite easy to have an "all white" jury in Cook county. All you had to do was restrict your pool to property owners.
That doesn't work anymore.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:41:30 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
(/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
To: Dog Gone
I don't think we'll ever get to the point where juries are selected by quotas. Judges used to practice law, they know that picking a jury is an art, at best, and mysticism, at worst. But knocking all minorities off a jury is something that draws scrutiny.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:43:07 PM PDT
by
CobaltBlue
(Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: mhking
*liquid whistle of amazement*
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:43:13 PM PDT
by
King Prout
(and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
To: CobaltBlue
As well it should. But if it comes to the point where a judge won't allow a qualified juror to be seated in favor of someone of color who is not, that should be reversible error as well.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:49:25 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: toddlintown
"This trial can't go without it's requisite two blacks?"
C'mon. Give me a break!
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:50:05 PM PDT
by
mhking
(The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
To: ImNRA
So let me get this straight. It's OK to have an all-black jury, as in the OJ Simpson criminal trial, but not an all-white jury in Chicago.IIRC, there was one honkey on the OJ jury.
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posted on
07/25/2005 3:50:41 PM PDT
by
randog
(What the....?!)
To: toddlintown
It
might work if she takes a similar stand against all-black, all-hispanic, all-female, all-male, all-Jewish, all-Arab, etc juries.
Of course, this IS Cook County. It just might fly anyway.
To: toddlintown
Interesting.
The last time I had jury duty, every black person that was selected to serve before me claimed they were a Jehovah's Witness and it was against their religion to sit in judgment of another person.
After about 10 years, my number seems to have come up again for September of this year and if the judge brings this subject up I'll point out that fact if happens to the case again.
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posted on
07/25/2005 4:02:17 PM PDT
by
michigander
(The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
To: toddlintown
The law only prohibits the systematic exclusion of minority jurors without a race neutral reason. If this Judge refused to seat an all white jury even though there was no systematic exclusion of minorities it would be a no-brainer basis for having the judgment reversed on appeal.
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posted on
07/25/2005 4:15:44 PM PDT
by
joebuck
To: joebuck; toddlintown
I believe this is what's known in the trade as a "reverse
Batson" (the USSC case mandating race-neutral strikes.)
In this state, at least, if she does this it's ground for reversal. The judge doesn't pick the jury - the parties do.
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posted on
07/25/2005 4:17:57 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
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To: rdb3; Khepera; elwoodp; MAKnight; condolinda; mafree; Trueblackman; FRlurker; Teacher317; ...
So what happens if she gets an all black or all Hispanic jury pool; is she going to toss them out too? I don't think so!
Talk about an idiot!
Then again, "that's the Chicago way..." (to swipe an old movie phrase)
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posted on
07/25/2005 4:22:54 PM PDT
by
mhking
(The world needs a wake up call gentlemen...we're gonna phone it in.)
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