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A long and rambling piece full of wishful thinking from the Washington Post. They really long for the "Deep Throat" days, don't they?
1 posted on 07/18/2005 8:32:45 AM PDT by mathprof
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the only exception being that they idolized 'Deep Throat' while they want to jail Rove......


3 posted on 07/18/2005 8:35:05 AM PDT by logic ("All that is required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing......")
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New York Times reporter is merely protecting Rove

Yeah, right. Like that would ever happen.

4 posted on 07/18/2005 8:36:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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More disinformation. Everyone in the white house signed confidentiality wavers a year and a half ago at the request of the special prosecutor. Kurtz has to know the facts by now. What a lying sack of excrement.

feel vindicated by news that two reporters were granting Karl Rove anonymity as he tried to undermine a prominent debunker of those claims, Joe Wilson, by mentioning his wife's CIA role. Some even fault Judith Miller for her act of conscience in going to jail, saying the New York Times reporter is merely protecting Rove

5 posted on 07/18/2005 8:37:04 AM PDT by DManA
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The MSM has sold it's credibility for convenience. Rambling self-serving excuses aside, it's still shameful.


6 posted on 07/18/2005 8:40:41 AM PDT by GOPJ (Phil Donahue "has made the world safe for emotion masquerading as thought."-BOZELL III)
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I used to think Howard Kurtz was smart once in a while.

Now I think he's stupid all the time.

7 posted on 07/18/2005 8:44:25 AM PDT by what's up
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How disappointing. Mark Felt leaked information about ongoing FBI investigations, and thus broke the law while retaining his position as the #2 man in the FBI. Whoever leaked the name of Valerie Plame and her role in Wilson's trip most likely broke no law, and was most likely a reporter. If the media had NOT reported about Plame, it would have been covering up a seriously important fact that the public had a right to know in order to properly weigh the trustworthiness of Joe Wilson. I think lots of reporters had this information for a long time, they knew Wilson lied in his NYT piece, they WERE covering it up because of their own agenda, and Bob Novak messed it all up when he wrote about it. Matt Cooper wrote a story that was clearly a fantasy based on nothing. There was no orchestrated campaign to "smear" Joe Wilson and his wife. A relevant fact about Joe Wilson and his trustworthiness was confirmed to reporters who already knew it. I really need somebody to tell me how this compares to Watergate!


8 posted on 07/18/2005 8:44:49 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (If the WMD intelligence was so bad, why does Valerie Plame still have a job?)
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'Kurtzie' reminds me of the crooked, county sheriff in 'Tombstone'

Everyone know's he's a shill for the DNC... yet he acts like he's totally impartial to maintain his position.

“I don't think I'll let you bullsh_t me today... 'Kurtzie'!”

9 posted on 07/18/2005 8:45:17 AM PDT by johnny7 ('I bet 'ya think I'm 'kickin you Bob...! -Sheriff 'Little Bill' Dagget)
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"vindicated by news that two reporters were granting Karl Rove anonymity as he tried to undermine a prominent debunker of those claims, Joe Wilson, by mentioning his wife's CIA role."

Again, can someone explain how pointing out that Wilson's wife had a role in getting him the Niger assignment was a "smear" or would "undermine" Wilson? This is a complete non sequitur, yet it forms the basis of this entire fake scandal.
11 posted on 07/18/2005 8:53:47 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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Who is Miller protecting? Not Rove or Libby. So who?


15 posted on 07/18/2005 9:07:52 AM PDT by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair.

A highly relevant corroborating account is David Corn's at the Nation, who wrote about Valerie Plame the day after he met with Joe Wilson.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 9:11:37 AM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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" the disclosure that Rove served as a source for Time's Matt Cooper '

Too bad Kurtz isn't as interested in discovering the other sources Cooper admitted that he had and apparently testified about, in front of the GJ.
Cooper preferred not to discuss those sources and their waivers with Russert.
Who are Cooper's other sources ?
Are they the ones who gave Cooper Plame's name ?
Since Cooper's staying mum, they are obviously Democrats.
Which is why Kurtz and Russert have no interest.


23 posted on 07/18/2005 11:31:24 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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…may have been committing a crime

However, to the court, the Washington Post says:

"There is ample evidence on the public record to cast considerable doubt that a crime has been committed."

24 posted on 07/18/2005 12:41:55 PM PDT by D-fendr
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