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Hunting Heritage Defense Committee Opposes Michigan (Mourning) Dove Hunt Ban
Hunting Heritage Defense Committee ^ | 7-15-05 | Bryan B. Reynard

Posted on 07/17/2005 12:27:02 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

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I'm not a mourning dove hunter, but I support HHDC 100%. We all hang together as hunters or gunowners, or we all hang separately. I already sent my donation.

Background - A bipartisan majority in the state legislature(as well as even Granholm) passed a trial mourning dove hunt which has Michigan progress like its neighbors in Indiana which already have a mourning dove hunt.

Out of state interests such as the Humane Society of the United State (Not your local pet rescue group) and Fund for Animals (Both backed John Kerry BTW.....) spent $50,000 to bring this to referendum. This places the hunting ban on the ballot to be decided on in 2006. That's why HHDC formed.

HHDC is supported by Michigan Gun Owners and SAFR, two pro-firearm organizations in the state(I'm a member of both). It's a legit ballot question committee filed with the State of Michigan, and it's ready to fight the anti-hunters and ready to drive them back to Washington DC.

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Interviewer: "Where would your organization support Black Bear hunting - anywhere in the United States?"
(Wayne) Pacelle(HSUS President): "Nowhere"
Interviewer: "Where does your organization support the hunting of deer - anywhere in the United States?"
Pacelle: "Nowhere"
Interviewer: "Where, in the United States, does your organization support any hunting of any species?"
Pacelle: "Nowhere"
Interviewer: "So the real agenda and goal of Fund For Animals is a total ban on all hunting everywhere?"
Pacelle: "Yes."
Interviewer: "So all this debate about whether or not the Black Bear is threatened or endangered and the actual number of Black Bear that we have in Florida is really irrelevant since the goal of your organization is to ban all hunting everywhere?"
Pacelle: "Yes"

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That's what we are up against.

1 posted on 07/17/2005 12:27:02 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

"Humane Society of the United State (Not your local pet rescue group)"

Extreme lefty group. Mourning dove hunting was talked about in WI a couple years ago. I don't know what the outcome was, but there was sure an uproar from the liberals. Just imagine the overpopulation of deer in our areas (WI and MI), and other states like TX and PA, the starvation and deasease if hunting was banned. These libs are clueless, hunters actually contribute greatly to animal management.


2 posted on 07/17/2005 12:33:41 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dan from Michigan
Additional info here.

Mourning Dove hunting, but the Wisconson DNR

Fact sheet

3 posted on 07/17/2005 12:35:56 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dan from Michigan

When the anti crowd in Minnesota tried to defeat the dove hunting bill, they claimed there would be a environmental disaster.

Because doves eat weed seeds, hunting them would cause an explosion of weeds.

More weeds, more herbicides used by farmers and homeowners.

The bill passed and I still pull my weeds by hand.


4 posted on 07/17/2005 12:39:07 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly)
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To: Indy Pendance
I remember something about that in Wisconsin too. It was the same time as the conceal carry fight. Parallel's my state.

The first time it was up, the dove bill lost by one vote(senate). It then passed the house twice more and finally got past the senate the second time it was up for a vote there. Granholm shocked me by signing it, but it went to referendum thanks to Parcelle's crew.

Extreme Leftists is right. Unfortunatly, most people think HSUS is about rescuing pets. Even a lot of hunters belong to HSUC thinking that what they are supporting. Similar names with the local humane society - but big difference in what the group does.

5 posted on 07/17/2005 12:42:42 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Stop the Land Grabs - Markman, Taylor, Young, or Corrigan for SCOTUS)
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To: Dan from Michigan
What is all this Dove crap? Aren't doves pigeons?
6 posted on 07/17/2005 12:43:50 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Dan from Michigan

In Wisconsin, we had opposition to Dove hunting a few years back, including an expensive law suit.

Now that we have it, there is no change in the dove population and the whole controversy has been forgotten.

Hunting and fishing should be encouraged. Without it, the natural resources would suffer as the hunt and fish fees pay a big portion of the DNR budget.


7 posted on 07/17/2005 12:44:25 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
I haven't heard that one yet. The usual horse manure I hear is that hunters will shoot them out of the suburban backyards and bird feeders.

Never mind the fact that is illegal and will always be so by the occupied building rule and trespassing laws.

8 posted on 07/17/2005 12:45:18 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Stop the Land Grabs - Markman, Taylor, Young, or Corrigan for SCOTUS)
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To: bill1952
What is all this Dove crap? Aren't doves pigeons?

But it's the bird of piece, I mean peace....even though they are nothing like the white doves.....

(Yes they are pigeons)

9 posted on 07/17/2005 12:46:19 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Stop the Land Grabs - Markman, Taylor, Young, or Corrigan for SCOTUS)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Mourning doves? I thought they were Morning doves?

Is there a difference?


10 posted on 07/17/2005 12:50:18 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

I thought it was "mourning" based on that whiny sound they make.


11 posted on 07/17/2005 12:51:19 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan (Stop the Land Grabs - Markman, Taylor, Young, or Corrigan for SCOTUS)
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"Extreme Leftists is right. Unfortunatly, most people think HSUS is about rescuing pets. Even a lot of hunters belong to HSUC thinking that what they are supporting. Similar names with the local humane society - but big difference in what the group does."

Yep, I make sure to educate those who don't know. I can't blame them the HSUS purposly picked a similar sounding name to create the image they are the sames as your local Humane Societies. Sleeze bags.


12 posted on 07/17/2005 12:51:30 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks. For a moment there I thought that my memory was going.

Cripes, pigeons are nuisance animals. I remember the city of Philadelphia hiring firms to exterminate them.

These people are nuts. How about a nut hunting season? ;^)
13 posted on 07/17/2005 12:52:27 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: nuconvert

They are named mourning because of how they sound. Anyway, I hear they taste like chicken. *groan*


14 posted on 07/17/2005 12:52:53 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: bill1952

We have about 8-10 in our yard (we're country folks), and they're a pita. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at a few.


15 posted on 07/17/2005 12:53:56 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dan from Michigan

" whiny sound " ?

I thought they cooed?


16 posted on 07/17/2005 12:56:24 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Indy Pendance

hmmm....well, I see them mostly in the morning. ;~ )


17 posted on 07/17/2005 12:58:31 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

Are they good with eggs?


18 posted on 07/17/2005 1:00:19 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Dan from Michigan

Here's more from Pacelle -

"We have no problems with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding." – Animal People News, May 1, 1993

He's also opposed to pet ownership.


19 posted on 07/17/2005 1:21:55 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Marxism has not only failed to promote human freedom, it has failed to produce food)
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To: Dan from Michigan

HSUS is typical of such who are stepping over the line!


20 posted on 07/17/2005 1:58:59 PM PDT by RAY ( Heroes not, the U.S. Supreme Court!!)
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