Ditto!
Posted on 07/10/2005 12:12:27 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
It was 11:07 on a Friday morning, July 11, 2003, and Time magazine correspondent Matt Cooper was tapping out an e-mail to his bureau chief, Michael Duffy. "Subject: Rove/P&C," (for personal and confidential), Cooper began. "Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins before he went on vacation..." Cooper proceeded to spell out some guidance on a story that was beginning to roil Washington. He finished, "please don't source this to rove or even WH [White House]" and suggested another reporter check with the CIA.
Last week, after Time turned over that e-mail, among other notes and e-mails, Cooper agreed to testify before a grand jury in the Valerie Plame case. Explaining that he had obtained last-minute "personal consent" from his source, Cooper was able to avoid a jail sentence for contempt of court. Another reporter, Judith Miller of The New York Times, refused to identify her source and chose to go to jail instead.
For two years, a federal prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, has been investigating the leak of Plame's identity as an undercover CIA agent. The leak was first reported by columnist Robert Novak on July 14, 2003. Novak apparently made some arrangement with the prosecutor, but Fitzgerald continued to press other reporters for their sources, possibly to show a pattern (to prove intent) or to make a perjury case. (It is illegal to knowingly identify an undercover CIA officer.) Rove's words on the Plame case have always been carefully chosen. "I didn't know her name. I didn't leak her name," Rove told CNN last year when asked if he had anything to do with the Plame leak. Rove has never publicly acknowledged talking to any reporter about former ambassador Joseph Wilson and his wife.
(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...
NEWSWEEK obtained a copy of the e-mail that Cooper sent his bureau chief after speaking to Rove. Cooper wrote that Rove offered him a "big warning" not to "get too far out on Wilson." Rove told Cooper that Wilson's trip had not been authorized by "DCIA"—CIA Director George Tenet—or Vice President Dick Cheney. Rather, "it was, KR said, wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd [weapons of mass destruction] issues who authorized the trip." Wilson's wife is Plame, then an undercover agent working as an analyst in the CIA's Directorate of Operations counterproliferation division. (Cooper later included the essence of what Rove told him in an online story.) The e-mail characterizing the conversation continues: "not only the genesis of the trip is flawed an[d] suspect but so is the report. he [Rove] implied strongly there's still plenty to implicate iraqi interest in acquiring uranium fro[m] Niger... "
Nothing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative.
Rove was warning Cooper not to trust Wilson. Rove was entirely correct.
Faulty Sources Isikoff & MSM previously used: Karen Kwiatkowski & Patrick Lang
NRO and Iraq News ^ | 5-17-05 | Michael Rubin
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<< Rove was warning Cooper not to trust Wilson.
Rove was entirely correct. >>
Absolutely.
Hair-splitting on whether or not he actually used her name seems pretty pointless to me; "Wilson's wife" is clear enough about who was meant.
I think he's on safer ground when it comes to whether or not he knew she was a covert operative. Cooper's version of what Rove said gives no indication that Rove was aware of that.
Don't we wish the media were as diligent in searching for other information, like Hillary's college thesis or Kerry's military records? I guess they can't do everything so they just concentrate on conservative Republicans.
Jeez, sound like dialog from an old "Get Smart" show.
I know what you mean. That choice of words is suspiciously odd and doesn't sound like something a professional journalist would use.
I wouldn't be surprised if this claim about Rove ends up in a deadlock with Cooper saying "he identified Wilson's wife" and Rove saying "no, I did not identify Wilson's wife." In that case, I would certainly believe Rove instead of Cooper. I won't express any opinions about anyone's motives in this case, but you know all about their motives anyway.
Take a hike Troll. I believe Rove's earlier statements and I don't believe some troll who signed up for FR just this morning. Buzz off, you liberal fool.
Hmmmmmm?
I smell a troll at post #9. Just signed up this morning.
Ditto!
LOL! The editorial staff of NEWSWEEK discussing the latest! Perfect photo.
Yeah, that phrase "double super secret background" is very strange and doesn't sound like something a real journalist would actually use in an email. Do we have another journalistic fabrication here, similar to the phony Bush national guard papers? We'll just have to wait and see. We all know how desperately liberals want to take down Karl Rove.
of all the reporters at Newsweek .. why is Michael Isikoff
covering this?
Didn't he write a piece last week also?
Where ON EARTH have you been?
The Cone of Silence! LOL
"Nothing in the Cooper e-mail suggests that Rove used Plame's name or knew she was a covert operative. (From Isikoff's mouth to the prosecutor's ear.)
"A fair reading of the e-mail makes clear that the information conveyed was not part of an organized effort to disclose Plame's identity, but was an effort to discourage Time from publishing things that turned out to be false," the source said, referring to claims in circulation at the time that Cheney and high-level CIA officials arranged for Wilson's trip to Africa"(There you have it...."nothing" wrapped up neatly by Isikoff)
I'm on a mini-vacation so I thought I'd drop by and see how things haven't really changed.
So how are you doing? Still sane.
*giggling* naw, I have lost my sanity -- happened a while back, but I am fixing to take a couple of weeks off too -- I have to -- moving to Mississippi and this computer has to get packed tomorrow afternoon because that huge van line willbe here at 7:00AM.
I am hoping last item on will compute to first item off... but we'll have to wait and see.
You ought not to stay away for long periods, cause you're really missed.
I smell a liberal troll here. He just registered today, and his words sound like some lefty's imitation of what he thinks a right winger is supposed to sound like. Anyone who really had a habit of "kicking liberal ass on the lefty boards" would have been registered here a long time ago.
Well thank you. What part of Mississippi are you moving to?
Very true. Maybe they could work on looking into Jayna Davis' work on OKC or the wherabouts of the very interesting Carol Howe............ or the reality of Flight 800 or..........Jamie Gorelick and her 'Wall', etc., etc., etc.
Don't forget, Cooper moonlights as a stand-up comedian in his spare time.
This whole story is nothing but a rehash. The tale will be told when Mr. Mandy Grunwald testifies and if he tells the truth (big "if"). The way I read it, Rove pointed Miller in Plame's direction and Miller took it from there. Somebody else gave him Plame's name and background as a CIA seret agent.
Cooper is married to Mandy Grunwald?
Vicksburg, - high on the bluff overlooking the Mississippi. I'm taking the one way tciket on Thusrday mornring. Good bye and good riddance CA...lol.
Reguarding this stilly case, I think Miller leaked to Novak, who told Rove and Rove told Cooper and now Miller can't up and admit that she started the whole thang, so off to jail she goes. It's late, maybe I left out a link or two. Old Joe might have bragged about his wife's employment.
I'm pretty sure about one point: neither Miller or Cooper would have gone to the wall to protect a valid GOP source like Rove....lol.
dulcerevenge77 aka chanel124and77 zotted.
Wilson obviously isn't worried about stalkers and such. He wrote a book, has authored many columns, and consented to many magazine interviews, some with photos of him and his wife. He seems to relish his new found celebrity, and he's certainly profiting from it. Another big spread is coming out this month, oh and by the way, Valerie Plame still works for the CIA.
Got em with your slick web cam again, huh, Jim?
When we were stationed in Norlin's we took a trip up through some of the Civil War sites in Mississippi. I remember we liked Vicksburg a lot...also the Mobile and that area.
Oh the bad boys and girls are cropping up all over this morning, aren't they? Even camoflauging themselves on other related threads. But what a swift and sure job the moderators are doing. Thanks!!
Yes, I am quite fond of VB. It already feels like home. I know this will sound wierd, but it feels to me like I have returned home. RETURNED home.
We're having a battle against a minor troll attack on this thread....lol. Liberals desperately want to discredit Karl Rove and you can see it here this morning.
LO - I see that. I also saw that JimRpb squashed him...lol.
Lately we've been thinking of moving to Elizabeth City, NC. We were stationed there when both our boys were born. Nice quiet town, protected from Hurricanes by the Outer Banks but near enough to the coast to get there easily, close to the Norfolk area. Nice cost of living. A little sticky in July and August...which you know what I mean or will soon...but not bad overall climate.
Yes, JimRob is very quick at troll target acquisition and removal. His CPU runs at 7.6 ghz, even at 1:40 in the morning.
FOTFLOL! I love that Jim! WTG.
You know, Lawrence O' Delusional, the guy, who just might get fitted with a straight jacket in a few weeks...
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