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Afghans at Queens Mosque Split Over bin Laden
The New York Times ^ | Sept. 19, 2001 | DEXTER FILKINS

Posted on 07/08/2005 2:41:57 PM PDT by True Capitalist

Afghans at Queens Mosque Are Divided Over bin Laden

September 19, 2001

By DEXTER FILKINS

At New York City's largest Afghan mosque, supporters of the Taliban have chosen to pray in the basement or outside in the parking lot. They have not returned to the mosque for daily prayers since last Friday, when their imam denounced the attacks on the World Trade Center.

"When I speak against the Taliban and Osama, they harass me; so many times they harass me," Imam Mohammed Sherzad, the leader of Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq mosque, said at his office in Flushing, Queens. "They say: "Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim.' "

The tensions at the mosque last Friday reflect in part the heightened anxieties and divided loyalties among the city's Afghans, who number roughly 20,000.

A week after the attacks, many find themselves torn between their adopted country and the fear that their devastated homeland will feel the brunt of a retaliatory strike from the United States.

As Washington appears to be preparing a military assault on Afghanistan, many Afghans in New York are pleading for their country to be spared even as they distance themselves from its leaders. While Afghans across the city have condemned last week's terrorism, a small number appear to be standing by the Taliban and the man accused of masterminding the attack.

At the Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq mosque, tucked into a section of Flushing, the predominant sentiment is dread for friends and relatives back home...

(Excerpt) Read more at query.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atifa; flushing; hazratiabubakrsadiq; mosque; queens; queenscell; sherzad; taliban
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Doing a little due diligence on our local mosque and saw this New York Times article from September 19, 2001 which I thought might be of interest to others.
1 posted on 07/08/2005 2:41:58 PM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: True Capitalist

Supporters of the Taliban and/or Bin Laden should be expelled from this country immediately.

They are a cancer.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 2:44:14 PM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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Additional excerpt:

The World Trade Center attacks have only intensified the schisms in Afghan mosques throughout the region since the Taliban began its rise to power in 1994. At Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq, the imam says his congregation has been feuding with some members for months.

"They are connected to the Taliban," said the imam. "The Taliban wants to destroy the center."

Members of the pro-Taliban contingent that opted to pray in the basement declined to be interviewed. Experts who have studied Afghan exiles in the United States say that such schisms have broken out in mosques in Virginia and California, and that they often reflect the ethnic divisions that mirror the support and opposition to the Taliban. In Afghanistan, the Taliban forces are made up almost entirely of Pashtuns, the country's largest ethnic group. The anti-Taliban forces are made up largely of ethnic Tajiks, Uzbeks and other minorities.

"The Afghan community is extremely divided, largely along ethnic lines," said Barnett Rubin, studies director at New York University's Center on International Cooperation. "There are pro-Taliban factions and there are anti-Taliban factions."

At the Hazrat-I-Abubakr mosque, the imam and many who support him are ethnic Tajiks. Those in the breakaway faction, they said, are mostly ethnic Pashtuns. The feuding has spilled outside the mosque, with the police saying they have been called several times recently to separate the two groups.

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3 posted on 07/08/2005 2:45:56 PM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: True Capitalist

If they're still gathering in the basement or in the parking lot for prayers almost four years after 9/11 they should be easy to spot, round up, and throw out of the country. Their means of transport back to Afghanistan should be a slow leaky boat.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 2:50:53 PM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: tomahawk
Supporters of the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden must be excommunicated from the Muslim faith immediately!!

If not, then Islam must be incinerated.

5 posted on 07/08/2005 2:58:11 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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Bin Laden is an observant Muslim.

He won't be excommunicated, he is a hero to them.


6 posted on 07/08/2005 2:59:51 PM PDT by tomahawk (http://tomahawkblog.blogspot.com/)
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To: billnaz

The article is an old one (see post#1); which leaves me to wonder what "oppressors" they were fleeing to come to this country. Possibly the commies from a generation ago? Certainly if Osama was such a great guy, these Muslims, in 2001, would have been back in the old country supporting the Taliban. Funny how they had remained in the USA even at that time.

Many good, educated, Afghanis have gone back to re-build their country. More than likely these parking lot praying Muslim dregs are still here pissing and moaning.

What a country we live in. I can't see supporting these types very much longer.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 3:00:36 PM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970)
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"Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim."

If that's true, then the only good Muslim is a . . .
8 posted on 07/08/2005 3:07:37 PM PDT by atomicweeder
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To: atomicweeder

Dead one?


9 posted on 07/08/2005 3:09:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: atomicweeder; A CA Guy

Hooah


10 posted on 07/08/2005 3:15:34 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
Supporters of the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden must be excommunicated from the Muslim faith immediately!!

What we are looking for is a split in Islam comparable to the Reformation. We need to see Islam recognize this split and denounce the part that encourages and supports violence. This post indicates that Muslims recognize this as well. We need a world wide split to develop and the peaceful sect to be supported and the terrorist sect to be killed or forced into the hills, (where bin Ladin is today). This is the first time I have even heard of a mosque taking this issue on. We need more.

11 posted on 07/08/2005 3:33:18 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: True Capitalist
They say: "Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim.' "

And yet CNN wants me to worry about hurting their feelings.

12 posted on 07/08/2005 3:35:35 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: tomahawk

They are a cancer.

They are ENEMIES and TRAITORS


13 posted on 07/08/2005 3:36:52 PM PDT by hardworking (Which reflects YOUR image of America's families? George & Laura, or Billy & Hillary?)
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To: skeeter

I suggest hurting a slightly more visible and tender part of their anatomy


14 posted on 07/08/2005 3:37:45 PM PDT by hardworking (Which reflects YOUR image of America's families? George & Laura, or Billy & Hillary?)
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To: True Capitalist
New York City's largest Afghan mosque, supporters of the Taliban have chosen to pray in the basement or outside in the parking lot. They have not returned to the mosque for daily prayers since last Friday, when their imam denounced the attacks on the World Trade Center.

"When I speak against the Taliban and Osama, they harass me; so many times they harass me," Imam Mohammed Sherzad, the leader of Hazrat-I-Abubakr Sadiq mosque, said at his office in Flushing, Queens. "They say: "Why do you speak against Osama bin Laden? He is a good Muslim.' "

Names and addresses, we need their names. Otherwise the Imam is just flapping his gums.

15 posted on 07/08/2005 4:01:48 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: A CA Guy
In most cases, that would be a completely correct answer.

But when the issue is muzzies, then it's not quite so...

...once the bastards assume room temperature, there is no measure of "good" conferred upon them.

They merely cease doing evil, that's all.

16 posted on 07/08/2005 4:04:47 PM PDT by MarineDad (Whenever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits.)
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To: El Gato

" Names and addresses, we need their names. Otherwise the Imam is just flapping his gums."

Roger that. Problem is there are many very sharp curved knives available on a moments notice.


17 posted on 07/08/2005 4:09:48 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: hardworking

"They are ENEMIES and TRAITORS"
Only if they have become American citizens. Else only the first adjective applies. Lets not forget about the heaven knows how many Muslims reside in this country with visas, attend our school systems, some work, some play, many get green card privelges to get freebies, and some come to set up terroist cells. We got quite a mix. The world melting pot, and the pot is quickly melting down.


18 posted on 07/08/2005 4:15:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: True Capitalist

>supporters of the Taliban have chosen to pray in the basement or outside in the parking lot.<

There is your problem UK. You still allow Taliban supporters in your midst instead of having them deported. Is the West really serious about fighting terrorism?


19 posted on 07/08/2005 4:36:02 PM PDT by auburntiger (Liberalism is Evil disguised as Virtue.)
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To: True Capitalist
What would have happened if we had Germans vocally, financially, and materially espousing Hitler back in the 40s or Stalin in the 50s? Either we are in awar or we are not. It's hard to understand why we do not declare war. Al Qaeda has declared war on us. Anyone who sympathizes should be declared an enemy of the state. What's so hard to understand here?

Dec. 7, 1941 Japan bombs Pearl Harbor. Pursuant to the Alien Enemy Act of 1798, Roosevelt issued identical Presidential Proclamations 2525, 2526 and 2527 branding German, Italian and Japanese nationals as enemy aliens, authorizing internment and travel and property ownership restrictions. A blanket presidential warrant authorized U.S. Attorney General Francis Biddle to have the FBI arrest a large number of “dangerous enemy aliens” based on the CDI. Hundreds of German aliens were arrested by the end of the day. The FBI raids many homes and hundreds more are detained before war even declared on Germany.

Jan. 1942 Pursuant to Presidential Proclamation 2525-2527 and 2537 (issued Jan.14, 1942), the Attorney General issues regulations requiring application for and issuance of certificates of identification to all “enemy aliens” aged 14 and older and outlining restrictions on their movement and property ownership rights. Approximately one million enemy aliens reregister, including 300,000 German-born aliens, the 2nd largest immigrant group at that time. Applications are forwarded to the Department of Justice’s Alien Registration Division and the FBI. Any change of address, employment or name must be reported to the FBI. Enemy aliens may not enter federally designated restricted areas. If enemy aliens violate these or other applicable regulations, they are subject to “arrest, detention and internment for the duration of the war.”

20 posted on 07/08/2005 6:18:12 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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