LIVE THREAD: President Bush Speaks About U.S. Iraqi Policy

www.freerepublic.com | June 28, 2005

[Howlin]

Have at it.

8:00 P.M. EDT -- All Channels

PLEASE -- NO HUGE GRAPHICS!

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[Howlin]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/

[Dog]

Hello!

[MJY1288]

Present

[Howlin]

http://www.c-span.org/watch/

[Howlin]

Here we go again, eh?

[hole_n_one]

Shouldn't that read HUGH?

[Howlin]

I thought about it.......LOL.

[SE Mom]

Thanks Howlin:)

[rep-always]

Thanks for starting the thread.

[verity]

Can I preemptively say "Screw Fat Ted?"

[NewYorker]

Thanks Howlin. I couldn't find the time anywhere. You saved me from more frantic searching.

[onyx]

I had to LOOK make certain you posted the LIVE thread...lol.

[ChadGore]

It this hugh ?

[AVNevis]

I know tis sounds strange, but C-Span will not air the speech live. Both houses of Congress are apparently in session.

[kassie]

Thanks for the thread and thanks for the ping.

[ChadGore]

Hey ! hole_n_one . .can you do screenshots tonight ?

[AVNevis]

tis=this.

[Howlin]

Weird. Thanks for correcting me on that one. I didn't even look, to be honest!

[hole_n_one]

sure!

[Howlin]

This is the LIVE THREAD PING LIST; if you want ON or OFF the list, please Freepmail me.

[AVNevis]

Actaully I looked again, and it looks like the speech will be on C-Span 3, but your link is for C-Span 1.

[hole_n_one]

CNN: Major mainstream media "hemming and hawing" as to whether or not they will cover the President's speech tonight.

[don-o]

Thanks Howlin.

[Howlin]

I use to have a link that brought up all three of them and you could pick what you wanted to watch; obviously, I have lost it. :-)

[Coop]

Is huge text okay?!?

[MJY1288]

If I was the President, my opening line would be....."Good Evening! .... Karl Rove and I want to thank you for the warm welcome, I hope all of you got to hear his speech last week, it was spot on......."(slight smirk) as he continues on :-)

[Dog]

Huge text is forbidden!

[upchuck]

PLEASE -- NO HUGE GRAPHICS!

Those of us trapped in 56K dialup He11 thank you Howlin.

'cept you misspelled hugh :)

Interesting that the AP has already posted their story about the speech.

[Howlin]

I try, UC!

[Txsleuth]

I am dreading the after speech "reviews"---I think they have prolly already been written by most pundits and media members!

[NormsRevenge]

I'm Ready for the c'Rat response.

Let's Roll!

[deport]

Shucks..... since this is early on in the thread I hope this isn't too large.... Kinda neat and summertime refreshing.

[upchuck]

Especially hugh bolded text!

[Dog]

Who is giving the response?

Dingy or Bug Eye Pelosi?

[onyx]

I'm hitting abuse on you, deport. :)

[Rebelbase]

Meant to sent you a note earlier. Sunday paper had an article about the Civil Rights Museum now needing $6 million for completion.

[MOgirl]

Hello Howlin,

Please put me on the Live Thread Ping list, as NOTHING is better than a live thread on FR!

Also, I will have alot of catching up to do, as we are taking our 7 year old and his friend to the Cards game. If I do not die from the heat, I will talk to you all later.

Glad to be here, MOgirl

[onyx]

Is this size OK?

[Coop]

Huge text is forbidden!

What?!? That's outrageous! JimRob and the mods are conspiring to get me!! I'm outta here!!

Coop's opus

[upchuck]

Hmmm... 78KB. Guess it depends on you definition of hugh.

Off topic perhaps.

[Fudd Fan]

Hi Howlin! I'm here and taking my seat.

[Fudd Fan]

ABC has the miniseries starting tonight, they probably don't want to re-schedule.

[Howlin]

K.

[AZamericonnie]

Amazing how they can report on a speech that hasn't taken place yet. Pretty jaded headline me thinks.

[firewalk]

Thanks

[West Coast Conservative]

Bush: Bloodshed in Iraq Is 'Worth It'
JENNIFER LOVEN
AP

President Bush on Tuesday appealed for the nation's patience for "difficult and dangerous" work ahead in Iraq, hoping a backdrop of U.S. troops and a reminder of Iraq's revived sovereignty would help him reclaim control of an issue that has eroded his popularity.

In an evening address at an Army base that has 9,300 troops in Iraq, Bush was acknowledging the toll of the 27-month-old war. At the same time, he aimed to persuade skeptical Americans that his strategy for victory needed only time — not any changes — to be successful.

"Like most Americans, I see the images of violence and bloodshed. Every picture is horrifying and the suffering is real," Bush said, according to excerpts released ahead of time by the White House. "It is worth it."

It was a tricky balancing act, believed necessary by White House advisers who have seen persistent insurgent attacks eat into Americans' support for the war — and for the president — and increase discomfort among even Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Bush marked the first anniversary of the transfer of power from the U.S.-led coalition to Iraq's interim government by focusing on progress in the past year and promising success against the still-potent insurgency.

"The terrorists can kill the innocent, but they cannot stop the advance of freedom," he said in a speech that was to be attended by 750 soldiers and airmen. "They will fail."

He was rejecting calls to set a timetable for withdrawing 135,000 American troops. Instead, he argued for maintaining the present two-pronged strategy: equipping Iraqi security forces to take over the anti-insurgency fight and helping Iraqi political leaders in the transition to a permanent democratic government.

"The work in Iraq is difficult and dangerous," the president said. "We have more work to do and there will be tough moments that test America's resolve."

Bush's repeated acknowledgment of death and difficulty came less than a month after Vice President Dick Cheney proclaimed the Iraq insurgency "in the last throes." Still, the president's overriding message was one of optimism.

"The American people do not falter under threat, and we will not allow our future to be determined by car bombers and assassins," he said.

Democrats and other critics said the country needed more specifics than Bush has been giving.

"We just don't have a clue what the criteria for success is," said Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., a Vietnam combat veteran. "People are still willing to give the president time if he would just level with them."

Outside the base, opponents of the war planned protests.

The liberal group MoveOn.org also unveiled television advertisements that call the Iraq war "a quagmire." "We got in the wrong way. Let's get out the right way," say the ads running in several contested congressional districts.

Bush reserved a few hours before the speech for a private session to console the loved ones of fallen soldiers. Though he often holds these meetings when visiting military bases, the White House's decision to schedule time with 33 grieving families on the same day as the major address underscored the president's plan to offer a more somber assessment than usual of a war that has killed over 1,740 U.S. military personnel and 12,000 Iraqi civilians.

The Iraqis face the next milestone in their rocky transition to democracy on Aug. 15, the deadline to produce a draft of a new constitution.

Earlier Tuesday, a suicide car bomb attack was a reminder of the difficulties. An influential Shiite member of parliament, his son and two bodyguards were killed.

A recent Associated Press/Ipsos poll found a majority of Americans now think the war was a mistake.

Public patience is even being tested here in military-friendly North Carolina, where signs along the streets of nearby Fayetteville show steadfast support of the armed forces. In the past year, 100 troops from the several North Carolina bases have died in the war, trailing only the toll from California, according to an Associated Press analysis. A new statewide poll released Tuesday showed that, for the first time, more North Carolinians think the war is not worthwhile than think it is.

"We told them if they established a government we would back off," said 26-year-old Carrie Dimmick. "They established a government, but we're still there. I feel like the war is doing more harm than good."

[Fudd Fan]

LOL! A few years ago I bought my dad a sweatshirt with the Manure Movers of America logo. He totally wore it out! My mom refused to wash it anymore for fear it would disintegrate.

[onyx]

You're pushing it, Coop...lol.

[Howlin]

You are kidding? ROFLMAO........going to tell husband! ROFLMAO.

[Dog]

A recent Associated Press/Ipsos poll found a majority of Americans now think the war was a mistake.

Ms.Loven should be ashamed of herself...that is an old poll.