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If Democrats preclude John Bolton ... then the president should nominate Alan Keyes
www.renewamerica.us ^ | June 27, 2005 | Steven T. Voigt

Posted on 06/27/2005 6:41:40 PM PDT by Sam2005

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To: ChildOfThe60s
The DIMs have made Bolton a line in the sand. The side that wins this battle will be the most successful in other, more important matters for the rest of this administration.

I am sure the GOP wants to win it and so do the Dems. The only related issue of concern is judicial nominees, and I submit that the dims are already going to go all the way on that, so the outcome of this is not significant. The truth is if they can't win this one, they probably can't win the other, but that doesn't mean I should give a rat's ass what happens to Bolton or the UN. I don't care. It won't change whatever happens on judges. And if Gonzalez is nominated, I might root for the Democrats.

Additionally, the consequences for the republican party in the next elections will be surprisingly negative. The conservative base has also made Bolton's nomination a line in the sand.

That's the Bush pom pom waiving base.

We are a significant block in the party & we matter greatly at the polls. And you can take this to the bank: the party will pay if this administration wimps out on this one.

I'm not saying they should wimp out. But I mean, by having it drag out this long, don't they ALREADY look like a bunch of wimps?

101 posted on 06/28/2005 10:04:12 AM PDT by Huck (Conservatism jumped the shark with George W. Bush)
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To: Huck
That's the Bush pom pom waiving base.

That's "waving". And I don't get your meaning.

don't they ALREADY look like a bunch of wimps?

You bet.
But they still have the opportunity to [partially] redeem themselves. Which I say they should do. However, past performance is a good indicator of future performance. Which means we can safely assume that they will lead with the chin before falling to the knees.
I am inclined to believe that Karl Rove's statements and the initial support he received are aberrations and not indicative of any new growth of spine in the party leadership.

102 posted on 06/28/2005 10:46:21 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Credo
I forgot to include the sarcasm tags. My bad.

All is forgiven - scairt me to death!


103 posted on 06/28/2005 5:46:20 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Everyone should read and reread post #100 - and BELIEVE it = We DO NOT let Frist and gang wimp out on this one - he has already played patty cake too many times which is why the dims are playing out the clock - they've been so d*mn successful at pushing our seemingly spineless reps to the wall.Every now and again Frist and others will come out and sound strong - but then wimp out

this long ceased to be about Bolton. It's about the successful - if we don't stop them now - takeover of this country by a minority party rule - Believe it.

Even now, they are demanding, in addition, to be consulted BEFORE the Pres., send any candidates up for the courts - their ultimate goal is to be able to pick the nominees in the first place - in a total and in-your-face grab at crossing over the separation of powers as laid out in the Constitution - and with Reid standing there and bald face lying - saying he "hopes" the Pres will follow the "little thing like the Constitution"! by allowing the senate to have a say in not just voting on the candidate - but in choosing them in the first place.

This is where the last 2-3 decades of our history and the Constitution being largely excluded from public education classrooms - deliberately and with forethought - comes in. Reid and posse know that most of the people today wont know the rules on "Separations of Power" - and will swallow the socialist bilge they are pushing -with the help of their henchmen, formerly known as the MSM - now the Lame Stream Media .

this long ceased to be about Bolton. It's about the successful - if we don't stop them now - takeover of this country by a minority party rule - Believe it.

104 posted on 06/28/2005 6:33:42 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Obama thoroughly defeated him, of that there is no doubt. But to anyone who was halfway paying attention in their series of debates, it was absolutely clear that Keyes knowledge of history, the constitution, the bedrock founding philosophies of Western civilization, and detailed grasp of Illinois issues revealed Obama for the empty suit that he really is.

I realize that too few people in Illinois cared about debate performance and responded mainly to the press demonization of Keyes, his outsider (NOT carpetbagger) status, his isolation by a thorougly corrupt Illinois Republican Party, the chaotic nature of his selection, and yes; his own tactical mistakes and gaffes. His candidacy was doomed before it ever started. But had he been elected, the people of Illinois would have the opportunity to have a STATESMAN as senator rather than the 2 liberal Fabian Socialist politcal hacks that we now have.


105 posted on 06/29/2005 7:27:19 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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