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Stonehenge Druids 'Mark Wrong Solstice'
The Telegraph (UK) ^
| 6-21-2005
| Charles Clover
Posted on 06/21/2005 2:52:07 PM PDT by blam
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:52:07 PM PDT
by
blam
To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.
Change your calendar.
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:53:04 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
This has been known all along.
The modern "Druids" just didn't want to be hanging around on Salisbury Plain in the middle of winter!
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:54:50 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: blam
Yeah, but it's cold in the winter and so not as much fun to paaaaaarrrrrrrr-teeee!
To: blam
Yeah, Christmas, er the precursor to Christmas.
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:56:01 PM PDT
by
MinstrelBoy
(Calculus: The Fear of All Sums!)
To: blam
Stonehenge, where the demons dwell, where the banshees live--and they do live well...
Stonehenge, where a man's a man, and the children dance to the pipes of Pan...
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posted on
06/21/2005 2:56:52 PM PDT
by
Cyclopean Squid
(Time is a wonderful teacher; unfortunately, it kills all its pupils. --Hector Berlioz)
To: blam
Maybe the modern Druids are smarter than their ancestors. It's gotta be cold there in December.
7
posted on
06/21/2005 2:58:36 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: AnAmericanMother
Does it really get cold in England, or just chilly?
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:01:15 PM PDT
by
SoDak
(A million miles away)
To: blam
Those freaky New Age Druid chicks don't want to dance around naked in the middle of winter...
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:01:58 PM PDT
by
Junior
(“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
To: SoDak
I was there in October, and when the sun was out it was chilly but pleasant.
When it rained, it was just flat COLD. It's not so much the absolute number on the thermometer as it is the dank, damp, bone-chilling humidity!
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:03:40 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
To: blam
My guess would be that their "celebration" was to bring the sun back before it slipped out of view over the southern horizon. Some American Indians had such a belief. Sacrifices were necessary to bring the sun back. (IIRC, the Aztecs started out with such a belief system. They morphed that into a system of constant human sacrifices to keep the universe going.)
But, as has been pointed out already, modern "Druids" find it easier to get stoned and dance naked when the weather's warmer!
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:04:52 PM PDT
by
Redcloak
(We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
To: SoDak
My last trip to Wales was in April 1999. It snowed in Cwmystwyth. Nothing quite like driving narrow mountain B roads in snow. Deep ravines, no guard rails. As we headed back to our hotel in Aberystwyth, we dropped below the freeze line. It was just wet roads from that point forward. Cold and windy.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:08:19 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Junior
Some neighbors up the street from me are Druids,(Clergy Even) What the heck is that all about? Last year I dropped off a flyer for a Halloween Party at there house, the little girl was so happy,but alas they did not show up.
What is a Druid ????
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:08:31 PM PDT
by
cmsgop
(catch A+BERT in "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants")
To: windcliff
Bummer man. Did they celebrate this at "Stoned" henge?
To: blam
This is uninformed thinking, from what I know. Stonehenge is oriented toward the summer solstice. You view the first day of summer's sunrise over the "heel" stone. Not to say Druids don't celebrate the winter solstice, but not by viewing it from Stonhenge. Anybody with more scientific information jump in here if 'ya can.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:13:52 PM PDT
by
Ace's Dad
("There are more important things: Friendship, Bravery...")
To: Myrddin
I see you are an Idahoan, so I will take your word for it being cold. I travel to much of the lower 48, year round, and it's funny what some people think of as cold, especially when my experience comes from living on the plains of SD.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:15:27 PM PDT
by
SoDak
(A million miles away)
To: cmsgop
What is a Druid ????You will probably never meet a real one. The Roman army drove them onto the Isle of Angelsey (Ynys Mon) and slaughtered them all. Druids were the living embodiment of scholarship in Celtic society. It took about 27 years of study to learn enough to meet the basic entry level requirements. They didn't write things down. What passed for books were literally made with "leaves".
Druids were NEVER armed. If a Druid walked onto a field of battle and raised his hands, the combatants would set their weapons down. At least the Celtic warriors held them in that level of esteem. Not so with the Romans.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:15:47 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: cmsgop
What is a Druid ???? Priests in ancient Britain. The Romans mostly wiped them out after they conquered Brittania (they found their religious practices abhorrent, but getting rid of them also meant less opposition to Roman rule).
There has been a revival of the religion, but just how much it is like the old Druidic religion is open to debate. In one regard they're different: the original Druids practiced human sacrifice.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:17:33 PM PDT
by
Modernman
("Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made." -Bismarck)
To: SoDak
We arrived in Aberystwyth to a raging storm on the Irish Sea. A steady 60 knot wind from the northwest. Rain in sheets. The weather set new records that year.
Cold in my neighborhood is -10 F with a steady 20 knot wind AND driveway full of snow that has to be removed with a shovel. We had a total whiteout blizzard on January 1st, 2004. Thunder, 70 knot winds and snow that piled up 2 feet in 45 minutes. Some fun.
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posted on
06/21/2005 3:20:49 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Redcloak
"My guess would be that their "celebration" was to bring the sun back before it slipped out of view over the southern horizon"
I'm sure you're right. My daughter went through a bout of the whole "wicca" when she was about 18 or so (she's recovered nicely) and that seems to be the purpose of pagan winter solstice festivals.
Makes sense too, I guess.. I mean what the heck, its a religion - not a science.
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