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A Mac Owner’s Lament
The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette ^ | June 16, 2005 | Pat Lynch

Posted on 06/20/2005 8:42:07 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: quidnunc
I still don't get what Apple is doing. What can they offer that Microsoft can't on the Intel platform? The answer? A snazzy GUI on top of BSD subsystem?

I mean, if you go with Windows you get Microsoft along for the ride. You also get an amazing variety of hardware and software. If you go with Apple you get fewer options all the way down the line.

In my opinion, this is about the stupidest decision Apple could have made. What's laughable is that Jobs actually thinks OSX is so wildly superior to anything out there that it's worth betting the farm on.

41 posted on 06/21/2005 1:40:41 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Betis70

Most engineering programs don't run on the Mac.


42 posted on 06/21/2005 1:59:01 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: derllak

I understand that it is to be proprietary.

What's funny is Apple would make a killing porting it to the PC platform.

They still want to be in the hardware business. That was the same mistake they made back in the 80's. Had they ported their operating system to the PC then they'd be the Microsoft of today.


43 posted on 06/21/2005 2:03:16 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Nathan Zachary

On the otherhand, mac users will buy ANYTHING that will run on a Mac, even if it's a garbage space invaders game, just so they can fill the empty CD oganizer nailed to the wall beside their Mac someone had bought them for Christmas 10 years ago....

Such bitterness - let me guess, you were abused with a Mac mouse as a child, or...you're a Windows fanboi?


44 posted on 06/21/2005 2:05:08 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: Reactionary

It wasn't a choice.

The Power PC chips are at their end.


45 posted on 06/21/2005 2:05:56 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Nathan Zachary
What can't cell phone do these days?

Provide a means for a decent conversation, you know, their primary function. Blackbird.

46 posted on 06/21/2005 2:10:16 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (MYOFB!!!)
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To: quidnunc

This Mac nerd sure is depressed. I think he should just hit CTR-ALT-DEL and end it all right now.


47 posted on 06/21/2005 2:10:49 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Do Cats and Dogs know that they are going to die someday?)
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To: Reactionary

I still don't get what Apple is doing. What can they offer that Microsoft can't on the Intel platform? The answer? A snazzy GUI on top of BSD subsystem?

That "snazzy GUI" is the guts of the issue. Try it out, you might see why it's so importtant.

I mean, if you go with Windows you get Microsoft along for the ride. You also get an amazing variety of hardware and software. If you go with Apple you get fewer options all the way down the line.

This is somewhat untrue, it's gotten VASTLY better the last couple of years. There are very few peripherals at CompUSA that won't work with a Mac - many times the box fails to mention it'll work witha Mac, or that Mac drivers are available on their website, or, they don't need drivers for Macs. Software? Outside of engineering and CAD, most of the important titles exist, or there are equivalent titles available. Most of the software issues are games, and stuff nobody really buys anyway - like the 40 different versions of family tree software. The *good* ones were ported to Mac.

And then, on top of that, we've got Final Cut Pro, Motion, Shake...

In my opinion, this is about the stupidest decision Apple could have made. What's laughable is that Jobs actually thinks OSX is so wildly superior to anything out there that it's worth betting the farm on.

Have you tried Mac OS X, especially the current build, Tiger? I somehow think you have'nt, if you say that. The "Mac" has evolved from hardware tightly integrated into an OS, into a platform, and it runs rings around Windows in many, many areas. I doubt it'll ever capture more than 25% of the market, but I think they can reach that goal, now that the Intel factor is in place.

All of the current comments about the Intel migration are identical to the PPC migration Apple made years ago. We've been through this before.


48 posted on 06/21/2005 2:16:45 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: SamAdams76

CTR-ALT-DEL is a Windows thang, useless on a Mac. :)


49 posted on 06/21/2005 2:17:49 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: pageonetoo

I've been a Mac user since the Mac II, before that I had an Amiga, and I've used Windows machines since version 1, that my father ran, and the PC Jr. running DOS before that. Right now I own a dual 2ghz G5, a G4 Cube, a 2.8 ghz Toshiba laptop running Windows XP, and Wallstreet and Lombard Powerbooks sitting in a drawer, because I can't decided what to use them for.

I've been hearing the usual idiocy for the whole time "Macs suck!" - yeah, well so do you, Sparky - anyone who blurts that out like they have tourettes is instantly put on my /ignore list, so babble away, buddy. I indulged in the OS wars for years, before realizing how pointless it is, and it's the same damned eternal arguement between Chevy and Ford gearheads.

I have to say, tho, the only place I encounter the same kind of bitterness, sneering elitism and boorish behavior of the anti-Mac crowd is with liberals.

Me, I judge people by what they can DO. Anyone can go buy a computer, be it a Mac, or a Windows machine. I use my computers to create artwork for rock bands, get paid a decent amount of money to do it, and I have a lot of fun doing it. I'm a Photoshop junky, have been since version 1 (before it was called Photoshop), and I'm going to get my Expert Certification this year, finally - I've been putting it off, I havent had time. I'll put my Photoshop skills up against anyone. I'll put my Illustrator skills against anyone.

What's that? Macs suck? What do you do with your computer? Surf the web, answer e-mail, play games? Sure, Macs suck, buddy. Now go away, and come back when you can DO something with your computer.


50 posted on 06/21/2005 2:33:39 AM PDT by ByDesign
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To: Serious Capitalist

I actually think without Rish Limbaugh, there would be no Apple.


51 posted on 06/21/2005 2:48:55 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: Serious Capitalist

Sorry.
R-U-S-H.


52 posted on 06/21/2005 2:49:49 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: pageonetoo

Wow.
I have two iMacs and I thought I was cool.

I have this G3 that I am typing on right now. I also have an original BONDI blue imac that is currently unplugged. I NEVER have virus/adware/worm issues with the Macs.

HOWEVER, my daughter was desperate for a PC so we bought a Dell last fall. Had to re-install the OS 4 complete times. Just getting on the internet caused us to acquire so many computer diseases the whole thing was non-functional.

Dell's reps are all outsourced to India or Pakistan or even Mexico, so good luck trying to explain something in vernacular American to these guys whose English is good but unintelligible.

I HATE PC's.


53 posted on 06/21/2005 2:57:15 AM PDT by Conservatrix ("He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.")
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To: cabojoe

Too funny!!!!


54 posted on 06/21/2005 2:57:44 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: ByDesign
I have to say, tho, the only place I encounter the same kind of bitterness, sneering elitism and boorish behavior of the anti-Mac crowd is with liberals.

Actually, to find "the same kind of bitterness, sneering elitism and boorish behavior" one needs to look no further than the Mac snobs.

Heck, just look at the article which started this thread, for example.

55 posted on 06/21/2005 3:09:06 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Conservatrix
I NEVER have virus/adware/worm issues with the Macs.

...because the hacker kiddies don't bother writing their toys for systems that make up a tiny fraction of the computers on the internet.

HOWEVER, my daughter was desperate for a PC so we bought a Dell last fall. Had to re-install the OS 4 complete times. Just getting on the internet caused us to acquire so many computer diseases the whole thing was non-functional.

Odd, I've been on computer networks with PCs for decades, and I've never once had that problem.

But if Macs were the dominant system on the internet, then *they'd* be the target of the hackers.

I HATE PC's.

Why? It's not the PC's fault.

56 posted on 06/21/2005 3:12:12 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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My present iMac G3

Which means he likely isnt running OS X, he's a smoke blower about the subject and is writing a weenie hangwringer column to fill a quota.

Mac is on it's third or fourth processor and this lib thinks it's the end of the world cause he's lost some of his precious elitist caché. Hope his next puter comes with a sticker: "Sorry, your too stupid to open this box."

57 posted on 06/21/2005 3:23:23 AM PDT by D-fendr
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To: Petronski

That is sooo romantic! I love a geek romance story.

Cheers ! CC :)


58 posted on 06/21/2005 5:34:06 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: quidnunc
...those rascals on the other team were stealing the clever desktop analogy.

To be honest, Macintosh and Windows both stole the "clever desktop analogy" from X. Apple made the windowed desktop usable (as opposed to the CDE *shudder*). Microsoft made it cheap.

All my Mac friends act like someone shot their dog and stole their wife. Cheer up, folks. Look at it this way: Between Linux on x86 and IA64 and Intel Macs, maybe we've got enough voice to convince Intel that Bill Gates and his 640K don't constitute the entire computing universe. Welcome aboard.

59 posted on 06/21/2005 5:40:22 AM PDT by NCSteve
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To: Nathan Zachary
What can't cell phone do these days?

There are just some things that still require a woman; at least until someone invents a working Orgasmatron.

60 posted on 06/21/2005 6:12:23 AM PDT by Doohickey (CO during fire drill: "Are we conducting a training evolution or porpoising for the hell of it?")
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