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Did Bush mislead nation to war? (Barfus Alertus Maximus)
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | June 16, 2005 | WorldNetDaily.com

Posted on 06/17/2005 5:26:24 PM PDT by Jacob Kell

Did President Bush mislead the nation to war?

In a live, unscientific Internet poll, MSNBC readers are overwhelmingly saying yes.

With more than 6,000 votes recorded, the survey shows a lopsided 94 percent believe Bush misled the American people, with only 6 percent saying no.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; charlesrangel; demoncats; dubya; hjc; johnconyers; msnbc; pinkpress; poll; polls; waronterror; warwithiraq
MSNBC=More Stupid Nonsence By Communists.
1 posted on 06/17/2005 5:26:25 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell

I thought MSNBC got bought out by Err America.


2 posted on 06/17/2005 5:30:06 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If we're The Religious Right, does that make them The Godless Left? Discuss.)
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To: Jacob Kell

That's nothing - 99% of respondents think MSNBC misleads the American people on a regular basis.


3 posted on 06/17/2005 5:32:49 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Jacob Kell
I wouldn't scoff at these poll results.

Yes, they're idiotic.

But it shows how effective the MSM remains.

Sad.

4 posted on 06/17/2005 5:35:48 PM PDT by daler
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To: Jacob Kell

Did any of them say how they thought he misled the nation?


5 posted on 06/17/2005 5:37:51 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: everyone

Here's my theory on all the recent hype about Bush, OIF, and such...

They are setting up the American public for the onslaught of F9/11 that will soon show up on cable television.

Getting them ready...show them the "commentary" of Michael Moore's...then further call for Bush's blood.

They are ONLY trying to get more supporters.


6 posted on 06/17/2005 5:39:28 PM PDT by Dr Stormfist
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To: daler
Why should we be surprised that a web poll has been scewed by the DUmmies.
 
What is also not surprising is that WND fails to see (AND REPORT) this glaring slam on it's readers.
 
Of course...we already know about msnbc:
Do you believe President Bush misled the nation in order to go to war with Iraq?   * 34766 responses
Yes
94%
No
6%
Not a scientifically valid survey. Click to learn more.
 
You can't trust any of them anymore!

7 posted on 06/17/2005 5:40:52 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: Jacob Kell

Those poll numbers are sexed up, to be sure, but so was the intelligence the president "relied" on. No WMD's, no drones, no mobile biological labs, no ties to Al Quaida. The question to be asked is whether the president was duped or was he aware that the information he was receiving was fixed. Either way, not good.


8 posted on 06/17/2005 5:43:20 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: daler

did it occur to you that far from being representitve, MSNBC caters only to the far left?


9 posted on 06/17/2005 5:45:22 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: St.Chuck

that last part isnt true. Zarquai was in Iraq before the war began


10 posted on 06/17/2005 5:46:57 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Jacob Kell

Online polls are worthless. just look at DU everytime there is a poll discovered, and they all run over to do their anti- Bush thing. This includes Media polls by so called MSM.

Polls have become worthless now that the division between left and right is so pronounced. The outcome of the poll can be predicted simply by knowing which political party has the greater number of supporters amoung those polled, and we know MSM polls always have a greater number of democrats and "independants" (read green party) which gives them 75% anti Bush no matter the question.


11 posted on 06/17/2005 5:48:47 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Wolverine

Heck, I voted "yes" over 200 times myself!


12 posted on 06/17/2005 5:53:06 PM PDT by rockrr (Gregorovych Nyet!)
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To: Jacob Kell

Put the same poll up here on this site and the results would be 180 degrees out. The only people who visit MSNBC are transvestites, pedophiles, homosexuals, drug addicts and DNC staff members.


13 posted on 06/17/2005 5:58:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: St.Chuck
"No WMD's, no drones, no mobile biological labs, no ties to Al Quaida."

B.S. darn rights saddam had WMD, what do you think he gassed Iranians and kurds with? Where is the invetory that the UN had tagged and is now unaccounted for? Do you really think, given all the time the UN and Saddams allies, germany Russia and France, gave Saddam that he couldn't squirrel them away? Look at all the uraium refining equipment that has shown up in junkyeards. And do you really think those Mobile labs were for making hydrogen for weather ballons? Yea right. Cmmercial units are available and far more compact at 1/100th the cost of what those trailers with fermenting tanks, filters etc cost. Drones? dime a dozen. I can go to hobby lobby and by ten right now. If intel was wrong, it's because Clintoon cut the CIA to sreds and made it unrealiable, but that doesn't mean Bush lied or mislead us by relying on it.

14 posted on 06/17/2005 5:59:13 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: atlanta67
I didn't just fall off the turnip wagon.

Of course I know the poll is skewed left.

Unfortunately, even the FNC polls are disturbing.

My comment wasn't on the GWB Iraq policy, but on the lamebrains that watch TV and buy into all this crap (as the MSM know they will).

If you think GWB has overwhelming support for his Iraq war effort right now, you're whistling in the dark.

Sadly, though, he SHOULD.

15 posted on 06/17/2005 6:01:43 PM PDT by daler
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To: FlingWingFlyer

And Freepers who are trying to check out what the transvestites, pedophiles, homosexuals, drug addicts and DNC staff members are saying now.


16 posted on 06/17/2005 6:02:57 PM PDT by mhx
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And Alqaida was in Iraq from as far back as 1991, it's well known. even a reporter whowent to Kurdish territory doccumented it. Look up David Goldberg report in the new yorker.


17 posted on 06/17/2005 6:03:09 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: mhx

You got it.


18 posted on 06/17/2005 6:04:30 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

jeff Goldberg, sorry.


19 posted on 06/17/2005 6:05:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: daler

""If you think GWB has overwhelming support for his Iraq war effort right now, you're whistling in the dark."

I dont and it is his own fault for not communicating with the pulbic more.


20 posted on 06/17/2005 6:08:16 PM PDT by atlanta67
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To: Nathan Zachary
Polls have become worthless now that the division between left and right is so pronounced

Exactly.  If this poll were done over at Fox, the result would have been far different.

21 posted on 06/17/2005 6:10:26 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Jacob Kell

This poll says absolutely nothing.

It is completely based on who reads MSNBC, who bothers to vote (or stuff the ballot box), and, of course, the stories, written by MSNBC drones, leading up to the "poll."

We know how hard it is to get reliable results on a scientific poll when they bother to try, so something of this nature has no value whatsoever.


22 posted on 06/17/2005 6:17:55 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (Liberals are enablers for terrorists and other anti-American groups.)
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To: everyone

The left has declared war on me, my president and my country and I am fed up. If Bush doesnt start pulling out the big guns on this, find someone that will. Im furious about the whole thing. God help us and our president.


23 posted on 06/17/2005 6:28:44 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: atlanta67
Zarquai was in Iraq before the war began

Do you know why?

24 posted on 06/17/2005 6:46:21 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Nathan Zachary
B.S. darn rights saddam had WMD....

Holy mackeral, Nate. Not only do you have a story for everything, but you tag our European allies and Clinton doing it. Well done.

25 posted on 06/17/2005 6:53:08 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: newconhere
If Bush doesnt start pulling out the big guns on this, find someone that will.

What do you mean?

26 posted on 06/17/2005 7:02:38 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: St.Chuck
The question to be asked is whether the president was duped or was he aware that the information he was receiving was fixed. Either way, not good.

Actually, the real question that should be asked is why Saddam was still in power after twelve years of violating the ceasefire agreement, and failing to account for NBCs he was known to possess in 1991.

I checked your posting history, and I must say your post in regards to the WMD intelligence reads like a recitation of the typical leftist moonbat talking points, and is far below the standards of your usual postings.
27 posted on 06/17/2005 7:05:27 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Jacob Kell
What would you expect from the network known as:

Mostly Socialist Naysayers Bitching Constantly?!

That's why this network is no. 3 in cable news. Most of the the country, by a large margin, trusts FoxNews for the real truth!

28 posted on 06/17/2005 7:07:08 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Kill 'em til they're dead! Then, kill 'em again!)
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To: Jacob Kell

And you would think that MSNBC viewers would "think" anything different?


29 posted on 06/17/2005 7:17:59 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Liberals are pathological liars. They admire liars, they regale in lies, they spread lies.)
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To: St.Chuck; All

Zarqawi was in Iraq BEFORE the war began. ALso, Saddam had some connections with the AQ affiliate, ANsar al-Islam. In fact, our troops found THREE mobile biological weapon laboratories in Iraq (the kind that are set up in trailers).


30 posted on 06/17/2005 7:18:35 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Regan 3:16: He whooped Communism's ass!)
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To: St.Chuck

"Sexed up" according to a commie looser.


31 posted on 06/17/2005 7:19:37 PM PDT by GregoryFul (Liberals are pathological liars. They admire liars, they regale in lies, they spread lies.)
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To: St.Chuck

Figure of speech. I want him to become more orate on the subject of Iraq again. His silence is his negative. He assumes the people just understand. I do, but the robots of soundbites do not. He is facing 2 enemies the one overseas and the one in his backyard. He doesnt realize it yet. Someone better tell him.


32 posted on 06/17/2005 7:23:12 PM PDT by newconhere
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To: Jacob Kell

Yes. He hit the wrong country first.


33 posted on 06/17/2005 7:23:26 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a leftist with a word processor.)
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To: Jacob Kell; All

This poll was DUed today but the Democratic Underground. This poll is useless.


34 posted on 06/17/2005 7:43:03 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: areafiftyone

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35 posted on 06/17/2005 7:43:20 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth
I checked your posting history, and I must say your post in regards to the WMD intelligence reads like a recitation of the typical leftist moonbat talking points, and is far below the standards of your usual postings.

Thanks for the compliment and I apologize for disappointing you on this particular subject. Any resemblance to leftist talking points is purely coincidental as plenty of conservatives have voiced misgivings about Mr. Bush's Iraqi adventure from the beginning.

36 posted on 06/17/2005 8:32:10 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: newconhere
I want him to become more orate on the subject of Iraq again. His silence is his negative.

I would agree that the president needs to do that. He needs to fire up the country and he needs to attract young men and women to join the fight, not with big bonuses, but a sense of mission. What they need to do is challenge the country and that is far better done telling the truth than the b.s. we've been hearing for the past two years about dead-enders and about the "last throes of desperation". The enemy is resilient and they are willing to die for their cause. Americans see that now, and when Mr.'s Cheney and Rumsfeld and Gen. Myers state otherwise they hurt their cause more than they help it.

37 posted on 06/17/2005 8:45:57 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Wolverine

I think it would have been a good idea if a link to the poll had been posted here on FR.

Something is brewing within the American people that we may not be aware of, as this poll shows.


38 posted on 06/17/2005 8:50:15 PM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Jacob Kell
In fact, our troops found THREE mobile biological weapon laboratories in Iraq (the kind that are set up in trailers).

I had heard that they were identified as having an agricultural purpose, not a weapons purpose.

39 posted on 06/17/2005 8:56:46 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Jacob Kell

I'm mistaken. The labs thought to be mobile biological weapons labs were hydrogen factories for weather balloons used for conventional artillery purposes. Google has several interesting articles and timelines about this. There is much about these WMD claims that have proven to be spectacularly erroneous.


40 posted on 06/17/2005 9:44:11 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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