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Pedophile may have 36,000 note entries of sex acts
reuters ^ | Jun 17, 2005 | Jim Christie

Posted on 06/17/2005 3:00:27 PM PDT by phoenix_004

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To: em2vn
I allowed him a starting are of 12 years old. Using an age of sixty two, from the early reports of the story, he would have had to have molested 720 children a year for fifty years. You must always question the figures. Of course it bothers me that police officers could come out with such an outrageous claim without giving it some thought.

Where has an officer made that claim? You are building a strawman that doesn't exist.

41 posted on 06/17/2005 6:57:02 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: TheOtherOne

No I'm not. The speculation about his having molested thirty six thousand children came from law enforcmentn when the note books were shown to the news media.
Often law enforcement agencies are the worst at announcing spectacular finds that simply can't be supported when the numbers are examined.
One would think that before making a statement about the molestation of thirty six thousand children by one person, someone would have used a calculator to parse the figure.


42 posted on 06/17/2005 7:07:14 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn
One would think that before making a statement about the molestation of thirty six thousand children by one person, someone would have used a calculator to parse the figure.

Please cite this statement you are referring to. I have already posted where the police said the exact opposite. Cite your source or you are just posting hearsay. (I'm sure your TV told you, right?)

43 posted on 06/17/2005 7:13:46 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: em2vn
"The speculation about his having molested thirty six thousand children came from law enforcmentn"

Show us where any law enforement has said he molested 36,000 children.

44 posted on 06/17/2005 7:15:00 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: TheOtherOne

San Jose Police Lt. Scott Cornfield described 63-year-old Dean Arthur Schwartzmiller as "one of the most active child molesters we've ever seen."

During a search of his bedroom in San Jose, police discovered binders full of child porn and numerous logs with lists of more than 36,000 children's names — mostly boys — and codes that appear to indicate how he abused them.
Source the A.P.
www.foxnew.com/story/0,2933,159812,00.html
You can interpert this as you desire.


45 posted on 06/17/2005 7:27:56 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn
Sounds like the reporter/writer said that. I'll still wait for you to show everyone ANY quote from law enforement that got you so upset.

I find it odd that you are upset at some alleged officer who said 36,000 instead of some guy who obviously is a child molestor. It is clear from most of the quotes, that the officers have never claimed he personally molested 36,000 boys.

46 posted on 06/17/2005 7:35:01 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: hineybona; Elpasser
It's quite possible that this man was throwed off enough that the line between fantasy and reality was THAT skewed.

When the hell are our courts going to realize that pedophilia CANNOT be rehabilitated by probation or jail sentences??

While I'm disgusted by this man and his actions, I'm more disgusted by the courts that have allowed this man to walk the streets.

Is this how we show our children that we love them and that our hopes of the future reside in them??

47 posted on 06/17/2005 7:38:11 PM PDT by PurVirgo (Here's a tip: Never weedeat the dog pen with your mouth open.)
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To: em2vn
By the way, you left the "s" off you URL.

The only QUOTE in your cited article is as follows

""If one-tenth of these numbers are accurate, we're looking at hundreds of victims in a number of states. The reason we want to tell the world about this is because we believe he's been involved in child molestations in a number of countries," [LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER] Cornfield said."

I hope you are this pervs lawyer.

48 posted on 06/17/2005 7:38:17 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: pickemuphere
My gawd, he LOOKS like Michael Jackson.

Leni

49 posted on 06/17/2005 7:40:07 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Remember, Half the People You Know are Below Average)
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To: TheOtherOne

By Chuck Carroll

Mercury News


"San Jose police say a 63-year-old man accused of molesting two youths, could be one of the worst child molesters in the country.

During a morning press conference, investigators said when they searched the home of suspect Dean Arthur Schwartzmiller, they found seven notebooks that contained an estimated 36,000 names. Investigators said all of the names were coded, possibly signifying specific sex acts."

Clearly I'm not a lawyer but if I was I would make a nice living defending unfit and criminal cops and those who are their enablers.



50 posted on 06/17/2005 8:26:09 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn

Dude, read that again. This guy had notebooks of 36,000 names. That's all. They could be names of photos or videos he was selling, who knows. There is nothing in that statement that says he personally molested 36,000 boys or anything close to that. What is your major malfunction?


51 posted on 06/17/2005 9:08:08 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: phoenix_004

Would it be too crude to suggest we take this guy out someplace and shoot him?


52 posted on 06/18/2005 7:24:01 AM PDT by Houmatt (Jeb Bush is a moron. Tracking devices on sex offenders? Give me a break!)
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To: null and void
Another of your "colorful" neighbors bites the dust...probably in more ways than one.
53 posted on 06/18/2005 8:14:15 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: Elpasser
"That means this guy would've had to have sex with a different child EVERY SINGLE DAY for the past 98 years."

Maybe he did groups. Or maybe he just has a real active fantasy life which he documents as real.

54 posted on 06/18/2005 8:26:06 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: sweetliberty

At least he's off the streets for a few days...


55 posted on 06/18/2005 9:45:18 AM PDT by null and void (You will never be really good at anything you do just for the money...)
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To: null and void

Yeah; true.


56 posted on 06/18/2005 11:38:06 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Never argue with a fool. People might not know the difference.)
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To: TheOtherOne

That's exacly the point I've been making. What have you been reading?


57 posted on 06/18/2005 1:27:05 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn
That's exacly the point I've been making. What have you been reading?

Your claim that some police officer said that, when it is just stupid reporters.

58 posted on 06/18/2005 1:40:46 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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To: TheOtherOne

My initial point was to always check the figures in such a report. I also said that law enforcement said that he may have molested as many as thirty six thousand children. I stand by that statement regardless of the statement made by a police officer that if he molested only a tenth of the children listed it would amount to hundreds. Actually a tenth would have amounted to thousands.
His statement was that seven notebooks contained the names of thirty six children with codes, it was assumed by law enforcement,indicating how he molested each child. I took the one in ten comment to be a "cover your ass" fall back position if the thirty six thousand figure self destructed.


59 posted on 06/18/2005 3:23:22 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: em2vn
Hey, we both agree for the most part anyway. Post #51 sums up the state of the facts as we know them now. All the reporters and writers keep making it sound like he could have molested all of them. I think not, expecially since he spent 12 years in prison.

My money is on he was a major supplier via internet and mail in addition to being an abuser.

My great hope is that those servers he had will help the authorities take down 36,000 child molestors!

60 posted on 06/18/2005 3:29:53 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed.)
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