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(WW2 P47)Thunderbolt elevated (from lake in Austria) - new pictures
Der Salzkammergut Internet Zeitung ^
| 14. Juni 2005
Posted on 06/14/2005 9:12:02 AM PDT by tophat9000
(google translate)
Thunderbolt elevated - new pictures
13.06.2005 - 21:10 Uh r
In the later in the afternoon hours, the Thunderbolt an American combat aircraft could be saved. The combat flier returned nearly intact again to the water surface and on particularly a wood rack intended for it was deposited. Up to the damage of the crash, he remained well preserved to some extent in the 60 years at the trusting sea-reason. As was to be experienced from press reports, it was to be reconditioned in Austria and then into the USA to be transferred. The salvage work remained secret nearly up to the conclusion. A German television team filmed the salvage and has here also the film rights.
Impressing and frightening at the same time the armament of this fighter. In addition, a memorial for our youth those was fired here a certification of a time deeply felt in with these weapons on humans.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aircraft; fighters; p47; thunderbolt; ww2
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To: tophat9000
2
posted on
06/14/2005 9:13:26 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jazzy
(Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
To: tophat9000
3
posted on
06/14/2005 9:13:45 AM PDT
by
Mr. Jazzy
(Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
To: tophat9000; Aeronaut; Criminal Number 18F
4
posted on
06/14/2005 9:14:07 AM PDT
by
Archangelsk
(Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
To: tophat9000
Cool!

I'd love to see what the "nose art" reads.
To: tophat9000
To: tophat9000
Absolutely beautiful!
My favorite airplane of all time.
Only 23 or so are left, so this is a valuable find.
7
posted on
06/14/2005 9:15:02 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Really. No, I'm serious. I really mean it this time.)
To: Aeronaut; Tijeras_Slim
To: tophat9000
Looks to be in pretty good shape.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:16:09 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
To: tophat9000
Looks like a beautiful place to bail out.
10
posted on
06/14/2005 9:16:44 AM PDT
by
The KG9 Kid
(Semper Fi!)
To: tophat9000
In addition, a memorial for our youth those was fired here a certification of a time deeply felt in with these weapons on humans. Gotta love those Google translations.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:16:51 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Really. No, I'm serious. I really mean it this time.)
To: tophat9000

"Way cool, is it", says Master Yoda...
12
posted on
06/14/2005 9:17:02 AM PDT
by
gridlock
(ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
To: martin_fierro
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:18:07 AM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
To: The KG9 Kid
That's what I noticed too. The scenery is breathtaking.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:22:23 AM PDT
by
reagan_fanatic
(The theory of evolution is the great cosmogenic myth of the twentieth century - Michael Denton)
To: Skooz
A gorgeous plane. I have seen one a bunch of times at Oshkosh, I think it is "Big Ass Bird" or something like that...
I have never really got the hang of the razorbacks, but I love the bubble canopy.
15
posted on
06/14/2005 9:23:06 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
To: rlmorel
I finally saw my first about 6 years ago, and a year later saw one fly for the first time.
He flew right over me, and the ground shook. It was awesome.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:24:48 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Really. No, I'm serious. I really mean it this time.)
To: tophat9000
This is cool I'll have to send these pics to my Army Aviator Dad.
To: Skooz
Man, aren't those radial engines JUST THE BOSS????
18
posted on
06/14/2005 9:26:38 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
To: tophat9000
Not too shabby looking. A little armor-all ought to clean her right up.
19
posted on
06/14/2005 9:27:06 AM PDT
by
shekkian
To: rlmorel
Yes, they are. P&R R2800 radial. Nothing sounds that cool.
Nothing.
20
posted on
06/14/2005 9:29:42 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Really. No, I'm serious. I really mean it this time.)
To: Skooz
I had a B-17 fly over my house at around 300-500 feet a couple of years ago...I heard the engines, ran outside and it was coming right for me!!!!
I was in my backyard, jumping up and down going WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! with my arms in the air!!
There is NOTHING like it.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:33:16 AM PDT
by
rlmorel
To: The KG9 Kid
From condition of plane, he must have ditched.
To: rlmorel
I saw an interview with one of the Tuskegee Redtails and he said he loved the P-47. He felt the P-51 was a better aircraft for their job but still he said he loved the P-47.
Yeah that radial roar is incredible.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:33:28 AM PDT
by
colonialhk
(sooprize sooprize sooprize)
To: Mr. Jazzy
Yeah - I love jugs, too. ;)
But more to the point(s), I wonder who's going to take on the restoration (in Austria) and who will buy it in the US, what with the government waiting to claim it as theirs (based on recent Corsair action... maybe they learned their lesson and will keep their hands off?).
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:34:48 AM PDT
by
grobdriver
(Let the embeds check the bodies!)
To: tophat9000
A Jug BTT. There is a remarkable tale about a crippled one flying for England that was caught by an ME-109. The German pilot emptied both machine-gun and cannon magazines into the Thunderbolt (the pilot of the latter tucked up in front of the seat armor), and the thing still flew. Said German flew up alongside, saluted, and departed.
To: grobdriver
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:40:25 AM PDT
by
Publius6961
(The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
To: tophat9000
Ooh, lookie at the eight Ma Duces in the wings! Oh boy!
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:40:48 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
To: gridlock
After the translation I did read, thinking the same thing I was.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:40:58 AM PDT
by
HEY4QDEMS
(Who owns this car with the peace sign, the mag wheels, and four on the floor?)
To: Skooz
My favorite is the P-38 - because my dad worked for Hughes Aircraft in Burbank - and helped to build them.
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:40:59 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: CyberAnt
Hughes Aircraft in Burbank Lockheed?
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posted on
06/14/2005 9:42:20 AM PDT
by
grobdriver
(Let the embeds check the bodies!)
To: tophat9000
Impressing and frightening at the same time the armament of this fighter.Those Germans have a way with words. This is a great sentence. (And it's very true, from what I've read about this aircraft.)
To: Mr. Jazzy
Absolutely. The airplane is cool also.
To: tophat9000
Seems in remarkably good shape despite 60 years in the water!
To: 68skylark
Really cool!
34
posted on
06/14/2005 9:53:38 AM PDT
by
Gritty
("Hillary’s the warrior queen on a field of Democratic Party corpses-Mark Steyn)
To: tophat9000
Looks like they damaged one of the plane's wings with the lifting straps. This plane is probably worth $1.5 - 2 million even as it sits right now.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:00:05 AM PDT
by
Lockbar
(March toward the sound of the guns.)
To: rlmorel
The "Big Ass Bird" name was also assigned to a Martin B26 Marauder in the 319th BG. I have a framed litho hanging in my office at home. My father flew with the 319th in both the ETO and PTO during the war.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:00:39 AM PDT
by
RJS1950
(The rats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
To: CyberAnt
My favorite is the P-38 too - because it was my Grandpa's favorite plane to fly in the War.
I had hoped to somehow get him out to see Glacier Girl because he said he would give anything to see one up close again and hear it take off before he died.
Unfortunately, he went in the hospital Sunday and we don't expect him to come out.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:03:19 AM PDT
by
AggieCPA
(Howdy, Ags!)
To: rlmorel
That happened to me, too.
In 2002, a B-17 taking off from an airshow at the local airport flew right over my house--maybe 400 feet (we live close to the airport).
I heard him coming, and ran to the window, and he flew right over me. Exceedingly cool.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:12:50 AM PDT
by
Skooz
(Really. No, I'm serious. I really mean it this time.)
To: AggieCPA
Wow! Thanks for telling me that.
I remember seeing a documentary about the rescue of a P-38 from a glacier - is that what you mean by "Glacier Girl" ..??
I bought the video because when the test pilot took the restored P-38 up for the first time .. I just burst into tears .. wondering if it might have been one of the planes my dad helped to build.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:20:48 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: grobdriver
It wasn't Lockheed in WWII.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:21:58 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: tophat9000
Everything about this plane should be traceable, including the circumstances of the crash and the fate of the pilot. I want to know more. Did he make it? Is he alive today? And if he is, would he like to sit in his old cockpit again? Looks like it's going to be possible. And I think I know how he would answer...
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:24:51 AM PDT
by
Defend the Second
("Hans, Hans, you're breaking my barrs...")
To: tophat9000
This plane is in just wonderful shape! Look at the Stars and Bars on the wing. And those eight .50 caliber machine guns. There are probably some old Wehrmacht guys that still duck instinctively when they see these pictures.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:32:20 AM PDT
by
Defend the Second
("Hans, Hans, you're breaking my barrs...")
To: CyberAnt
"The specifications that led to the design of this original combat plane were issued in 1937 by Army authorities. (Considering the efforts that the Germans and the British made to put a heavy two-engine fighter into the field, the American design was certainly the best.) What was asked for was a high-altitude interceptor that could reach 360 m.p.h. at 20,000 feet and 290 m.p.h. at 1,500 feet, with an ascent time of six minutes. Many companies that were approached considered the specifications impossible, but Lockheed's head designers, H. L. Hibbard and Clarence ("Kelly") Johnson, examined several possible solutions before settling on the least orthodox one."
Source is
HereAnd you might find this interesting
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:35:02 AM PDT
by
grobdriver
(Let the embeds check the bodies!)
To: tophat9000; Aeronaut; Dashing Dasher
Hope it's flying in a year or two...thanks for posting!!
Recovered WarBird ping .....
To: martin_fierro
I'd love to see what the "nose art" reads.
I'm looking at it now... blew it up for a look..
From my first looks.. i think I see a "Mr" just aft of the cowl paint stripe and forward of the cowl flaps..
Also a "Dot" and a "Mi" just to the right of the post (if ya view it upside down.
I'm having a look at the 8th AF "Little Friends" pages now..Will advise
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:43:26 AM PDT
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
To: martin_fierro
Republic P 47 Thunderbolt....Is there a better aircraft name for the Zots here on FR?
46
posted on
06/14/2005 10:45:24 AM PDT
by
xp38
To: grobdriver
Well .. while it appears Lockheed had bought out Hughes - the sign on the buildings said - HUGHES AIRCRAFT - which makes it even more interesting. Hmmmm?? This is really curious.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:49:40 AM PDT
by
CyberAnt
(President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
To: Skooz
Yes, they are. P&R R2800 radial. Nothing sounds that cool. Nothing. What? I have a little hearing loss in my right ear, courtesy of the 4x 2800s aboard the DC-6.
You could tell the guy on the ramp doing spark plug changes on a DC-6 by the two 5-gallon buckets he carried, one for the plugs on the port wing engines, the other for starboard.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:50:24 AM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: tophat9000
Wow! My dad worked on those birds for a time in WW2. His favorites were the P-51s and P-38s. But he said the P-47s could fly through a brick wall and 10 miles of flak and still get home.
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posted on
06/14/2005 10:55:34 AM PDT
by
Ghengis
(Alexander was a wuss!)
To: tophat9000; Skooz
It's a bit hard to tell if that's a Razorback Jug or one of the later bubble-canopied D-models, but I suspect that's one of the Evansville-built *RA* P47s.
There's another one in the drink off Port Moresby, Australia, too.
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posted on
06/14/2005 11:01:01 AM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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