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One Reporter's Opinion – Never Legalize Pot!
Newmax ^ | Friday, June 10, 2005 | Gearge Putnam

Posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:31 PM PDT by Nachum

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Cancer sufferers would tend to disagree with George here.
1 posted on 06/10/2005 2:32:31 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Note to moderator:

Sorry for the double post. I did not see that the first one had effectively been posted.


my bad!


2 posted on 06/10/2005 2:34:39 PM PDT by Nachum
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The arguments are ludicrous. The whole debate is whether pot should be taxed. If it won't be taxed it will be prohibited, which seems a strange thing to do with a weed that grows everywhere. Pot smoking screws up the mind and makes a nation easy pickings, but that is another issue.


3 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (I know nothing, and less every day)
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. . . that it impairs memory, alters time perception, reduces coordination, damages the immune system, is psychologically habit-forming and creates a wide range of effects on moods and behavior.

Gee, sounds like alcohol. Let's reinstate prohibition.

4 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:04 PM PDT by ahayes
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To: Nachum

I agree that pot should be illegal, but my objection to the SC case is that this is a matter reserved for the states. The federal law went beyond a reasonable interpretation of the commerce clause.

Heck, under such a broad commerce clause, the 10th Amendment has no meaning.


5 posted on 06/10/2005 2:36:37 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Nachum

All of his points should be irrelevant. Current law dealing with the substance is the result of a much larger & intrusive federal power grab. It took a Constitutional amendment to give the federal government power over alcohol use. What puts all other ingestable things under the thumb of federal power?


6 posted on 06/10/2005 2:45:13 PM PDT by GoLightly
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"MARIJUANA NOT ONLY FAILED TO LESSEN PAIN, IT ACTUALLY INCREASED IT!"

this must be why all these chronic pain sufferers swear by the stuff ?
Maybe they are all masochists !?
Anyway , we should all know by now to take the word of 'Studies' over direct experience . What good are our God given senses anyway?


7 posted on 06/10/2005 2:46:17 PM PDT by injin
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I question regulating it for adults, even at the state level. Our governments should not think they have the power to act like our nannies. Educate, rather than legislate!


8 posted on 06/10/2005 2:49:01 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
It's pretty clear that MJ use creates paranoia. Many of its users actually believe there's a conspiracy afoot to use MJ prohibition as an excuse for a massive governmental power grab.

Clue ~ the guys banning MJ already have the power ~ all of it! Their purpose is to ban MJ.

9 posted on 06/10/2005 2:49:03 PM PDT by muawiyah (q)
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marijuana is dangerous on many fronts, that it impairs memory, alters time perception, reduces coordination, damages the immune system, is psychologically habit-forming and creates a wide range of effects on moods and behavior.

Ohh what a load of crap.

MJ is - by orders of magnitude - much less dangerous then alcohol. Use any metric you like... damage to health, loss of productivity, crime and antisocial behavior, addiction rates etc. etc.

10 posted on 06/10/2005 2:58:20 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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To: Nachum

The only reason I would like MJ to stay illegal, is because if it was sold by state sanctioned stores, it most prolly would be seedy, stemmy brown mexican shit.


11 posted on 06/10/2005 3:00:13 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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Two questions I'd like someone more knowledgable than I to address:

Has Marijuana ever been medically proven, by studies in accordance with accepted scientifc method, to alleviate symptoms from the various diseases claimed?

If, in fact, the active ingredient in Marijuana (THC, i.e. Tetrahydracannabinol) has been, or can be, proven to be medically effective, is there any reason why the THC cannot be synthesized and administered pharmaceutically in the same fashion narcotics etc. are?

If the answers to these questions are indeed 'yes,' I'd assume the pharmaceutical companies would be salivating about developing a new, and it would seem very marketable (!), arrow for their quiver?

- knightshadow.


12 posted on 06/10/2005 3:02:55 PM PDT by knightshadow
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This whole medical MJ is just a scam by left-wing leftover hippies to legalize pot so they can smoke it. It has nothing to do with pain killing. There are many more effective pain killers than pot. Any pain killing properties that pot has, can be put into a pill. It would not have to be smoked. Right on George P for having the courage to speak the truth.


13 posted on 06/10/2005 3:05:17 PM PDT by jeffsg4mac
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If the answers to these questions are indeed 'yes,' I'd assume the pharmaceutical companies would be salivating about developing a new, and it would seem very marketable (!), arrow for their quiver?

Ahhh... ya see, there you'd be wrong.

Given that THC is a natural occuring compound, it is not patentable.

Much better for the bottom line ($$$) for the pharmas to push strong, physically addictive manmade painkillers.

14 posted on 06/10/2005 3:06:59 PM PDT by bikepacker67
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Yes, that's a quite plausible answer re the drug companies. But, what about the actual drug itself? Does it work?

- knightshadow.


15 posted on 06/10/2005 3:08:06 PM PDT by knightshadow
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To: Nachum
Sorry for the double post. I did not see that the first one had effectively been posted.

Hitting the weed a bit too hard are we? :@)

16 posted on 06/10/2005 3:09:01 PM PDT by Bommer
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The war on pot was initially justified by raising the fear that white girls would be seduced by black musicians using pot. The arguements have changed a bit since then, but not much.

OK -- using pot has potential bad consequences for some people.

That is an arguement for not USING pot, and arguement that should be presented to every young person.

That is NOT an arguement for CRIMINALIZATING pot.

Many of us hold two beliefs at the same time without contradiction:
1) Using Drugs, including Pot, is bad.
2) The War on Drugs is worse.

I am past 60, and I still haven't heard a good approach for discouraging vices (e.g., use of pot, tobacco, alcohol, prostitution, promiscuous gay sex, etc.) which do not create worse consequences than the vices being discouraged.

The war on pot has killed more people and destroyed more lives (e.g., due to mandatory minimum sentences for simple drug possession) than the pot would have if left alone and discouraged with education. It has resulted in the formation of a police state, and the loss of rights, the loss of restraints placed on the government by the Constitution. It has resulted in the waste of billions of dollars extracted from taxpayers at the point of a gun. It has resulted in the corruption of the justice system, from cops to prosecuters to judges to legislators.

It is time to look at ways of reducing harm, not exchanging the "use of drugs" harm for another which is much worse.



17 posted on 06/10/2005 3:11:33 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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Gee, sounds like alcohol. Let's reinstate prohibition.



don't laugh and don't look.
they are working on it via state legislation and highway funds... incrementally.

the prohibitionists in government I have known all believe that the new superdatabase of the patriot act, biometric driver's licenses, facial recognition and automated electronic medical records interface, as it is used more and more by law enforcement, will eventually be able to effectively prohibit all forms of vice like: cigarettes, booze, and many many others...

And they intend to make significant progress within the next five years. and they intend to do so... incrementally.

so much for Reagan's smaller government malarky.


18 posted on 06/10/2005 3:13:54 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the governent's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: RightWhale
Fifty years ago, as a much younger television reporter,

His opinion is based on 50 year old science? Wasn't the moon thought to be made of cheese back then?

19 posted on 06/10/2005 3:27:22 PM PDT by Lance Romance
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My father was a heavy dope smoker until I was 15. He and his friends pretty much fit the description in the article. I'm not in favor of legalizing it because it would be as problematic as alcohol if it was as widely used and alcohol is by far the most destructive drug in the US in terms of overall impact.

I think the whole pain relief argument is an obvious smokescreen (bad pun).

I don't like the federal power grab but hey there isn't much republic left in our republic anyway.
20 posted on 06/10/2005 3:31:38 PM PDT by bluetone006 (Peace)
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