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Graham Faces Storm Over Filibuster Deal - (South Carolina Republicans very upset)
WJLA.COM ^ | JUNE 4, 2005 | Michael Kerr, AP Writer

Posted on 06/04/2005 9:28:03 PM PDT by CHARLITE

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To: judgemc
That's only if they don't pay attention to the traffic.

That's a pretty dumb thing to say. Ignoring the world around you is how we got into this judicial activism position in the first place! It's about time Americans stood up and bitched about the dictators in black and demanding somethimng be done about it.
Do me a favor. Never run for office.

41 posted on 06/04/2005 10:23:23 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: SoCar

No, I would not. I don't know the people from Mr. Grahm's office that well.


42 posted on 06/04/2005 10:24:17 PM PDT by judgemc (My judicial sense is tingling)
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To: judgemc
You need to understand HOW FT works, newbie and to think BEFORE you post.

Now, answer the questions I put to you. :-)

43 posted on 06/04/2005 10:24:51 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: judgemc
You need to understand HOW FR works, newbie and to think BEFORE you post.

Now, answer the questions I put to you. :-)

44 posted on 06/04/2005 10:25:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: CHARLITE

I've posted this before, but I'd rather have a Demorat majority Senate, without ANY RINO's than a Republican Senate where you have RINO's, and are under the illusion
that you have a Conservative Senate, when you really don't.

How can these states keep on nominating RINO's, when they stab you in the back every time?


45 posted on 06/04/2005 10:25:06 PM PDT by Zivasmate
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To: SoCar

the face = to face!!


46 posted on 06/04/2005 10:26:10 PM PDT by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: concerned about politics

How's that any dumber than the original statement that prompted it? It infers that you need to pay attention.


47 posted on 06/04/2005 10:26:43 PM PDT by judgemc (My judicial sense is tingling)
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To: CHARLITE

You can be independent on a lot of things but this is not one of them. Taxes and killing babies are 2 others.


48 posted on 06/04/2005 10:28:02 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Why does the MSM hate our military?)
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To: nopardons

I disagree with the whole removing the cap thing, but removing the cap can be defending from a Conservative standpoint on the Barry Goldwater standard. Namely, Goldwater was known of being suspicious of revenue reductions, because while he wanted to trim government, as long as government was big, you needed to take in enough money so that you wouldn't run a deficit. That's just normal economics. If you or I ran the kind of deficits the national government runs yearly, we'd be bankrupt.


49 posted on 06/04/2005 10:28:41 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (Farragut got lucky, if we had been on our game, we would have blasted him off Dauphin Island)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Apples and oranges. I'm talking about SOCIAL SECURITY and you're talking in favor of TAXING THE RICH ANDX EVEN THE NOT SO RICH, SEVERELY.

And FWIW, Barry Goldwater was dead wrong in quite a number of things and grew less and less Conservative, as he aged.

51 posted on 06/04/2005 10:32:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: judgemc
Hey newbie, a voter has to declare a party and then they are given only one ballot, Dem or Rep. Obviously, if there are primaries going on in both parties, as there will be in '08, the Dems will vote in theirs and we will vote in ours.

Of course if your "moderate Dems" want to give up their say in who their own Senatorial and Presidential nominee is they can take a Rep ballot and vote for their beloved Lindsey who they support in their 50/50 letters to the editor. Yeah right!! If you think they love Lindsey so much they will do that you are as delusional as you are naive.

52 posted on 06/04/2005 10:32:07 PM PDT by SoCar (Refugee from NJ)
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To: Zivasmate
How can these states keep on nominating RINO's, when they stab you in the back every time?

I don't care what the left wing media has to say. The Republicans won big this time because of judges. People who have never voted before in their lives ran to the polls this time. The 7 serpents sold their souls to the devil.

53 posted on 06/04/2005 10:32:10 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: judgemc; All
Notice though I am the only one who has not resorted to name calling and conspiracy theories.

My troll alert just went off. I will still give you the benefit of the doubt, but I will say that you aren't a Conservative. There are certain principles that a Conservative does NOT compromise on. Principles buddy, principles.

Nam Vet

54 posted on 06/04/2005 10:33:43 PM PDT by Nam Vet (There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works.)
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To: judgemc
It infers that you need to pay attention.

Maybe you should learn a little more about our political realm, newbie, before spouting off your left wing agenda here.

55 posted on 06/04/2005 10:34:57 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Vote Republican - Vote morally correct!)
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To: wolf24

I can defend it easily

It helped save the Republican Party from having to bite the bullet on what was a very divisive issue at a time that the President's poll nummbers are falling. This gives President Bush time to boost his popularity ratings a bit. The last thing we need to be doing is putting a guy with 45% national approval ratings in a difficult position. We have to look to 2006 now, because truth be told, the Democrats are not in a bad position anymore. Terry Schiavo is the main thing that I think has turned off alot of people. I'm pro-life, but I disapproved of what the Senate did because I believe it went against states rights, which I hold to be sacrosanct. Now, my Congressman is not losing my vote for it, but I think Congress has more important things to worry about than the Terry Schiavo case.


56 posted on 06/04/2005 10:34:58 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (Farragut got lucky, if we had been on our game, we would have blasted him off Dauphin Island)
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To: nopardons

Shadow government? What are you some kind of conspiracy theorist? Do you honestly think that anything goes on in Washington without everybody knowing it? They didn't go behind anyone's back their was no coup d'etat (a nice french word). They did exactly what they were elected to do talk to each other! Oh my goodness what a horrible thing! Most of the Judges will get reccess appointments anyway so nothing was lost.

As for SS, since the '80's I've been told it will run out before I can ever collect, so you know what I'm not counting on it and have made my own investments so, whatever happens happens. And honestly, I'm still researching the information about private accounts and the other plans that have been bandied about for SS reform. All of the plans have pluses and minuses. I don't know for sure which one I endorse. And you still need to read my earlier post abot South Carolina election law.


57 posted on 06/04/2005 10:37:13 PM PDT by judgemc (My judicial sense is tingling)
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To: RavenATB
Graham hopes to be a big part of a potential McCain presidential run.

BINGO!!!

This whole fiasco is NOT about compromise! It is voluntary capitulation, a power play for personal gain by the '08 crowd.

It is a denial that representative government is an expression of the will of the people.

So, confirmation is NOT being allowed to proceed as it should, as the AMERICAN voters have declared, because a few have admitted personal designs on the future. That's disgusting!

58 posted on 06/04/2005 10:37:16 PM PDT by ThirstyMan
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To: concerned about politics

"The Republicans won big this time because of judges. People who have never voted before in their lives ran to the polls this time."


I'm not so sure that judges were the driving factor alone. In fact, I didn't think the Republican campaign emphasized
the Judges issue enough. But why do we keepon nominating RINO's as Republican candidates? I'd rather lose the darn seat than elect a RINO, because you're just kidding yourself if you think he's (she's) a conservative.


59 posted on 06/04/2005 10:37:55 PM PDT by Zivasmate
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To: nopardons

He grew more and more Libertarian as he aged, and from what I was taught, a Conservative is someone who believes less government is better, a liberal is someone who believes bigger government is better.

This country would be alot better off if Barry Goldwater had won and I am willing to say it. Barry Goldwater was the reason that my parents stopped being Dixiecrats.


60 posted on 06/04/2005 10:40:22 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (Farragut got lucky, if we had been on our game, we would have blasted him off Dauphin Island)
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