Dangerous Storms PDS) Tornado Watch #391 (IOWA, E KANSAS, W MO, NE) 205 PM UNTIL 1100 PM CDT.

Storm Prediction Center ^ | June 4, 2005 | NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK

[Former Military Chick]

URGENT - IMMEDIATE BROADCAST REQUESTED TORNADO WATCH NUMBER 391 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 205 PM CDT SAT JUN 4 2005

THE NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER HAS ISSUED A TORNADO WATCH FOR PORTIONS OF

SOUTHERN IOWA CENTRAL AND EASTERN KANSAS NORTHERN AND WESTERN MISSOURI SOUTHEASTERN NEBRASKA

EFFECTIVE THIS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING FROM 205 PM UNTIL 1100 PM CDT.

...THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION...

DESTRUCTIVE TORNADOES...LARGE HAIL TO 4 INCHES IN DIAMETER... THUNDERSTORM WIND GUSTS TO 80 MPH...AND DANGEROUS LIGHTNING ARE POSSIBLE IN THESE AREAS.

THE TORNADO WATCH AREA IS APPROXIMATELY ALONG AND 95 STATUTE MILES NORTH AND SOUTH OF A LINE FROM 30 MILES NORTH NORTHWEST OF RUSSELL KANSAS TO 15 MILES SOUTH SOUTHEAST OF KIRKSVILLE MISSOURI. FOR A COMPLETE DEPICTION OF THE WATCH SEE THE ASSOCIATED WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE (WOUS64 KWNS WOU1).

REMEMBER...A TORNADO WATCH MEANS CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR TORNADOES AND SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IN AND CLOSE TO THE WATCH AREA. PERSONS IN THESE AREAS SHOULD BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THREATENING WEATHER CONDITIONS AND LISTEN FOR LATER STATEMENTS AND POSSIBLE WARNINGS.

OTHER WATCH INFORMATION...CONTINUE...WW 389...WW 390...

DISCUSSION...APPROACH OF STRONG S/WV TROUGH OVER CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS AND AVAILABILITY OF EXTREMELY UNSTABLE AIR MASS WITH MLCAPES TO NEAR 4000 J/KG WILL LEAD TO RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF TORNADIC SUPERCELLS REMAINDER OF AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING ACROSS WRN PORTION OF WATCH AREA. STORMS WILL SPREAD EWD INTO MO/SRN IA BY THIS EVENING. IN ADDITION TO VERY LARGE HAIL THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR STRONG...LONG TRACK TORNADOES.

AVIATION...TORNADOES AND A FEW SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS WITH HAIL SURFACE AND ALOFT TO 4 INCHES. EXTREME TURBULENCE AND SURFACE WIND GUSTS TO 70 KNOTS. A FEW CUMULONIMBI WITH MAXIMUM TOPS TO 600. MEAN STORM MOTION VECTOR 24035.

...HALES

[Mr. Jeeves]

Link to other thread.

[fatnotlazy]

Thank you for the alert.

Once spent several days in Hays, Kansas for a wedding. I don't think there was a day that went by during that period that there weren't tornado warnings.

Where I live now -- very hilly -- we get microbursts a lot more freqently. Not considered a tornado, but still not a whole lot of fun. We have had tornados, but they are exceptionally rare. Mostly our damage comes from lightning and flash flooding.

[fatnotlazy]

And everyone in that area has my prayers they come through it all fine.

[Former Military Chick]

PING

Please take a moment to look at this map, to see if you are at risk of thess very serious storms making it's way through the heartland.

Also send this to your email friends and family to make sure they are not caught in the storm.

Please take care to secure items, bring in the pets and have a radio for information if the power is out.

I just checked good time to check batteries.

I certainly am not trying to nag about this but as a former Air Force Forecaster I can tell you with certainty this can be very dangerous.

-FMC

[nkycincinnatikid]

The wife flew to KC today to go shopping at Nel Hills in Atchison. I told her to take an umbrella! Watching these reports with interest.

[teenyelliott]

Betcha had no idea living in Kansas would be so exciting, did you????

When it gets perfectly still and it looks yellow outside, you better head underground!

[Former Military Chick]

Thank you for adding that to this thread I suppose I am a bit anxious to get the maps out and the most recent offering from the SPC.

You might take a look at the previous comment and the maps.

[Former Military Chick]

[Former Military Chick]

Actually as an AF brat and former AF and now married to a fine Army hunk we happen to move to some of the more how shall I say it, severe weather areas.

While in Lawton we had a tornado hit it was miserable. If I recall, a few years back the Leavenworth area was hit with a Tornado, if anyone has the 411 on that please add it to the thread.

Have to add one thing, the alerts in Kansas are far better than in Oklahoma. While in OK we had 2 sirens in our area we have 4 here in Kansas.

Folks should heed your advice when it looks as you said outside.

Thanks for the comment, friend.

[Former Military Chick]

I will try and stay on top of the alerts for you in the area and post them onto FR.

Which incidentally is another good use of FR, not only do we have excellent debate but we can also help out one another when events like severe weather occur.

[GRRRRR]

[theDentist]

Thanks, but I'm out in Virginia near the ocean. Y'll in the heartland, keep heads down and take care.

[Former Military Chick]

[Former Military Chick]

Excellent graphic GRRRRR thank you!

[teenyelliott]

Have you put this on the KS board?

BTW, I have lived in KS my whole life, and I have never had any damage done by a tornado. Have seen some pretty creepy weather, though.

[Former Military Chick]

Well, Virginia has had it's fair share of bad weather, I am from the Reston VA area but nothing like residing in Tornado Alley.

[Former Military Chick]

I had not put it on the kansas board, would like you to add it?

Good to know you have stayed safe in previous bad weather events.

I frankly think it is a hit or miss deal. All one can do is to be prepaired and have a place to wait out a bad storm and frankly have a common contact should folks get seperated so folks can call and touch base with their loved one's and friends.

This alert is not given lightly. Actually it is very rare that SPC goes out and gives this weather information.

[Former Military Chick]

Flood Watch:


Issued at: 2:44 PM CDT 6/4/05, expires at: 6:00 AM CDT 6/5/05

A Flood Watch remains in effect through 6 am Sunday morning for The following areas,
In kansas,
Atchison, Miami, Linn, Doniphan, Leavenworth, Wyandotte And johnson.
In missouri,
Atchison, Nodaway, Worth, Gentry, Harrison, Mercer, Putnam, Schuyler, Holt, Andrew, De Kalb, Daviess, Grundy, Sullivan, Adair, Buchanan, Clinton, Caldwell, Livingston, Linn, Macon, Platte, Clay, Ray, Carroll, Chariton, Randolph, Jackson, Lafayette, Saline, Howard, Cass, Johnson, Pettis, Cooper, bates and henry.
The flood watch remains in effect from Friday afternoon to Sunday Morning, For The Following,
Showers and thunderstorms will redevelop across the region late this afternoon through the overnight hours. An additional 1 to 2 inches is Expected across the watch area, With Locally Higher amounts Possible. The ground remains saturated from recent rainfall, And additional rainfall which falls tonight will result in flash flooding.
A flood watch means that conditions are favorable for heavy rain Across the watch area, Which May Lead to flooding along area rivers. If you are in the watch area, Check Your Preparedness Requirements, Especially If You have interests along area rivers. Keep informed, And Be Ready for action if flooding is observed or if a flood warning is issued.
Do not drive your vehicle into areas where the water covers the roadway. The water depth may be too great to allow your car to cross safely. Vehicles caught in rising water should be abandoned quickly. If your vehicle stalls, Abandon It And seek higher ground immediately. Rapidly rising water may engulf your vehicle and its occupants and sweep them away. Move to higher ground.


Tornado Watch:


Issued at: 2:16 PM CDT 6/4/05, expires at: 11:00 PM CDT 6/4/05

The NWS Has Issued Tornado Watch 391 In Effect Until 11 Pm Cdt For The Following Areas
In Kansas This Watch Includes 7 Counties
In East Central Kansas
Johnson, Linn, Miami
In Northeast Kansas
Atchison, Doniphan, Leavenworth Wyandotte
In Missouri This Watch Includes 37 Counties
In Central Missouri
Cooper, Howard, Pettis Saline
In North Central Missouri
Caldwell, Carroll, Chariton Daviess, Grundy, Harrison Linn, Livingston, Macon Mercer, Putnam, Randolph Sullivan
In Northeast Missouri
Adair, Schuyler
In Northwest Missouri
Andrew, Atchison, Buchanan Clinton, Dekalb, Gentry Holt, Nodaway, Worth
In West Central Missouri
Bates, Cass, Clay Henry, Jackson, Johnson Lafayette, Platte, Ray
This Includes The Cities Of, Mound City, Oregon, Grant City, Clinton, Windsor, Bethany, Overland Park, Olathe, Fayette, New Franklin, Parkville, Platte City, Keytesville, Liberty, Excelsior Springs, Plattsburg, Kingston, Lexington, Concordia, Atchison, Warrensburg, Gallatin, Princeton, Rockport, Savannah, Maryville, Kirksville, Kansas City, Leavenworth, Troy, Mound City, Brookfield, Macon, La Plata, Unionville, Butler, Richmond, Moberly, Boonville, Marshall, St. Joseph, Lancaster, Kansas City, Independence, Milan, Sedalia, Harrisonville, Chillicothe, Trenton, Carrollton, Albany, Paola And Cameron.

[teenyelliott]

You are right, of course. It is all about luck.

I'll put it up on the KS board.

[Former Military Chick]

groovy

[Altair333]

I've got an unusual contingency plan for a tornado. If I see one coming, I plan to jump into the pond next to my house and swim to the bottom right as the tornado as approaching. I figure I can hold my breath easily for a minute, by which time the tornado will be gone. And I've never heard of tornados sucking all the water out of ponds.

[teenyelliott]

It's up. Thanks for the thread.

[Lemondropkid31]

Wow LOL! I hope not for your sake!!! Isn't weather fascinating? I don't live in the areas where these tornadoes are supposed to be, but its fun watching them develop.

[KarenMal]

I've lived in KS my entire life too teeny, only damage I've had was the roof taken off our house! :)

[Former Military Chick]

United States - Severe Thunderstorm Warnings

[mommadooo3]

Thanks for the heads up...we're in Ohio. I keep checkin' the weatherbug, cuz my 'animal instincts' have me restless and grumpy. And that usually happens before a whopper of a storm.

[digitalbrownshirt]

Weird the way we're in a watch area (OKC) and the weather looks beautiful outside. Kind of like May 3rd did when we got the f5. I love Oklahoma, but I could do without the twisters.

[MamaTexan]

Goodness!

Take care everyone!

Good advice teeny. We've had some get pretty close, but the only time I've had the girls get into a closet was before we moved to the hill country.

That one was only a couple of miles away.

Hubby, however, could give you some close up accounts that scared the doodle even out of him.

(and he kind of likes 'living on the edge' :)

[rockabyebaby]

Prayers up for everyone in that area, may God protect you.

[Keith in Iowa]

This is normal weather for this time of year...Sure, it's something to be aware of, but is it really worth a FR thread???

[I'm ALL Right!]

That's me! Thank God for FR! I'm sitting here with no TV or radio on. Completely oblivious to the weather warnings. Thanks.

[don-o]

but is it really worth a FR thread???

Let's have another Michael/Paris/Schoolteacher screws student thread, instead.

[Yasotay]

So that mean your "fine Army hunk" is a student at that fine fort .... an instructor .... or stationed there?

[Former Military Chick]

While I am not one to post just anything, when the SPC comes out with one of these rare warnings I think it is prudent to make sure folks who might not be near a TV or radio or waiting somewhere and has only their laptop and has not been made aware of the impending weather.

Frankly I think this is one of the best aspects of FR, not only to discuss news of the day, but weather news, that has been breaking all day. Evidently there are many who feel this is an important news item.

Perhaps next time Keith you might just pass up the thread. I certainly did not intend to post unimportant weather news. I would not wish my threads to be a waste of FR bandwidth.

[Strategerist]

Depends on definition of "normal"....yes tornadoes are normal.

But this has a chance to be the sort of outbreak that only happens once every 3-5 years.

I notice it was taken out of breaking.

I've seen posts on sub Mag-4 quakes in California, or posts about plain old rain in California, left in Breaking news for ages.

[I'm ALL Right!]

Keith, see post 32. This is a necessary thread.

[Strategerist]

NWUS53 KTOP 042131
LSRTOP

PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TOPEKA KS
431 PM CDT SAT JUN 04 2005

..TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON...
..DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE....
..REMARKS..

0428 PM TORNADO 2 ESE HIAWATHA 39.84N 95.50W
06/04/2005 BROWN KS TRAINED SPOTTER

REPORTS OF A LARGE TORNADO ON THE GROUND NEAR HIAWATHA...
DEBRIS CLEARLY VISIBLE... TORNADO HAD BEEN ON THE GROUND
FOR 10 TO 12 MINUTES.



Threadworthy? Sheesh we'll crank out a hundred posts over someone spilling some non-dairy creamer in an office building thus leaving "white powder."

[wyattearp]

And I've never heard of tornados sucking all the water out of ponds.

(raining fish)

It happens. Have you got a plan B?

[Crazieman]

Oh my, I lived 1/2 mile from the May 3, 1999 F4 that plowed through Haysville/south Wichita. No power for 74 hours, and I walked the length of the street that the tornado tore up.

It was surreal

I also saw the damage from the April 26, 1991 F5 tornado that did Haysville/south Wichita/McConnell AFB/Andover

You can bet I'm watching it

[ezoeni]

I do not miss these things at all. Been in two, seen many

[psimpson2005]

bmp

[teenyelliott]

I'd say that counts!

Glad that's all it did.

[digitalbrownshirt]

Storm's here in Mustang, OK now. Dime size hail in my yard, heavy rain. It's getting darker outside, and the rain has actually let up a little bit. More lightning though. Supposed to get worse.

I didn't know we were in a severe storm watch until I got the ping to this thread. I don't watch tv very much and I don't even own a radio besides the ones in my cars.

[Former Military Chick]

I actually agree. When it is breaking news here in Kansas and than news alerts on FOX news one would think this rates front page and breaking news.

Weather is very VERY dangerous current event that now that we have technology to give us fair warning we should make it our purpose to stay informed.

There are folks who do not have TVs at work, that check on the web, FR to be exact about current news stories, this falls into that should they live in the severe weather area.

Perhaps the admin moderator can explain to us why this is not considered a breaking news or front page news item?

Again, I ask because it sure as heck is breaking in the Kansas and Missouri area and early enough to have folks prepared.

[teenyelliott]

Many people, like me, get ALL their news from the internet. If it hadn't been for militarychick's post, I wouldn't have known anything about it.

And living in Kansas, this kind of thing can come out of nowhere, with the ability to catch many people off guard.

I certainly do not see anything wrong with trying every way possible to keep people safe.

[Former Military Chick]

He is currently stationed at Ft Leavenworth, he travels around the world he is with BCTP Ops.

He finished the course a few years back.

[teenyelliott]

I live in Wichita, too, but for some reason the majority of the damage is usually south and/or east of town.

My husband was in the Air Force when the tornado hit McConnell. Totally freaked him out, as he is from South Carolina.

And you are wrong about Wichita. It is not boring. You can find anything you want in this city, unless you are looking for bath houses and brothels!

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>Many people, like me, get ALL their news from the internet.

That may not be a wise choice. When I need severe weather info, the Internet is the last place I go. There are plenty of reasons "the Internet" can become unavailable, and should not be relied upon as a source for "life or death" emergency notification. It is up to the people in harm's way to monitor situations as they develop, and act when necessary to protect life, limb & property...and do so without rushing to post a FR thread about it first...that's my $0.02 - which, apparently is worth less than the 2 cents I attribute it.

[Crazieman]

I would declare the situation "Safe" for Wichita. The dryline is about to cross Sedgwick county and the thunderstorms are flaring up east of it in Butler - this will extract the energy out of the atmosphere west of the storms preventing development in Sedgwick.

Base reflectivity
Note the dryline as a thin blue line in the near-clutter

Base velocity
Nothing of note west of Wichita. No evidence of circulation (at the time of this posting) east of Wichita.

Broad reflectivity loop
Showing development trends and Wichita out of danger