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To: neverdem; Coleus; Jaded; seamole
In-vitro fertilization (IVF) is an injustice to the child conceived in this manner to begin with. Laboratory methods entail laboratory attitudes: the embryonic child is degraded from being a person to being a product.

I'm not criticizing the adoptive families here --- not at all. To the contrary, they are doing all that they can do, at a personal sacrifice, so that the children are saved, are loved, are re-accepted as children.

When I say that IVF is wrong, I mean that every child has a right --- in accord with his or her dignity as a human being and a child of God ---- to be conceived in the loving embrace of parents who are committed for the long term (married) and who accept the child as the fruit of love.

Many, many children, of course --- besides IVF children --- are conceived in a way that violates their dignity from the start. Children are conceived in acts of rape, of seduction, of adultery, of prostitution, acts of contraception tha went awry (the child as "contraceptive failure"), insemination by "donor" (actually vendor), and other demeaning situations.

This does not make the child less human or less valuable. But he was deliberately deprived of something that was his birthright: the knowledge that it was the sacred love of a man and a woman in the intimacy of their embrace which brought him --- like a miracle --- into being.

However well-intended, IVF is degrading to the dignity of the human being. The long-term consequences will be seen in the next steps: human cloning, the genetic engineering and assembly-line mass production of human embryos: the total depersonalization and dehumanization of human fertility. This is horrendous. It should not be legal. Its common precursor steps (like IVF) should not be allowed.

Shame on those who make embryos like commodities.

And God's blessings upon those who adopt these frozen embryos, these "snowflake babies," who carry them in the womb "with love beyond all telling," who give them their chance to live.

8 posted on 06/02/2005 5:02:54 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Matt 24:12-13 "..the love of many will grow cold; but whoever endures to the end will be saved.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Well said.


9 posted on 06/02/2005 5:11:40 AM PDT by The Iguana
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Flawed argument. IVF children of infertile couples are not deprived of their birthright through IVF. They would be deprived of their existence without IVF. No one does IVF for fun.
10 posted on 06/02/2005 8:02:38 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I have 2 cousins that were IVF babies. I don't think their parents think they were in anyway degraded.

Back in the day.... When Louise Brown was the first Test-Tube baby... A friend of mine who was starting her own family remarked that children created from IVF would have no soul. These children would see neither heaven nor hell because God would not recognize the person since they were conceived separate from Him outside of a woman's body. I had always thought that a bizarre remark from someone who had an infant.

Fast forward, we've come to a point where some segments of society have determined that these babies have no soul. They have assumed the role of God Almighty and have disregarded Him.


12 posted on 06/02/2005 8:13:17 AM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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