Drift to World Government?

Washingtontimes.com ^ | May 31, 2005 | Richard W. Rahn

[GiovannaNicoletta]

What level of government (local, state, federal, multinational institution or none) should regulate the following: What trees you may cut on your home property; whether you may burn logs in your home fireplace; what identification you need to open a bank account in your local bank?

[demlosers]

Drift to World Government?

Well....yes.

[paudio]

What level of government (local, state, federal, multinational institution or none)...

Just yesterday, I was thinking that a "typical multi-nationalist" person in Western Europe has many layers of government: (1) local, (2) province/state, (3) central/federal, (4) European Commission, (5) United Nations...

[sgtbono2002]

Believe it or not here where I live in Maryland, because my property is in what they call a crucial area, The County government does regulate what trees can be cut and what they have to be replaced with. If a limb fell on my house I cannot legally cut it off without a permit.

[Gabz]

I'm generally more in favor of local government than more far reaching - but criminy, that's ridiculous.

[sergeantdave]

Sounds to me like you have a good bit of left wing fascism going on in your county.

If I'm reading you right, not only does the government control what you can or cannot do on your property, it charges you tax (permit fee) to improve your property (remove a branch from your roof).

So you're getting the shaft two ways.

Under this system, private property owners (serfs) take care of the land and pay taxes on it, while government wields complete control over the land.

It’s win-win for an imperial government. Not only do serfs work the land, the serfs also pay the government taxes for the labor they performed. It’s the ultimate government abuse and scam on the people.

[MamaTexan]

Drift to World Government?

No, we're not 'drifting'...

We're being rapidly rowed there by our elected leaders, whether we WANT to go that direction, or not!

[chris1]

Let's see, we have City Government, County Government, State Government, Federal Government, and that's just here!

I believe GWB's refusal to do anything about the border is for the precise reason that he wants chaos and essentially no border whatsoever.

The elite in Washington, including GWB, are rapidly moving us in the wrong direction.

[worldclass]

I would probably word it a bit differently than "world government". But we certainly do see increasing centralization of power. First the Feds take it; then they hand it over to international bodies (plural, not one government). The problem is that there are no longer any rules to follow. The US Constitution is now a quaint, old document that is honored in the breach continously. Without a foundation, anything goes...and that is why we are drifting on many dimensions.

[texastoo]

The ultimate abuse and scam on the American people is CAFTA and the FTAA. These 2 treaties are the back door into the UN.

These 2 treaties plus the WTO treaty are written almost verbatim from the UN. There is not a dimes worth of difference in all 3 treaties.

These treaties are not about trade, they are about control and socializing, to the ultimate, the American people.

How do I know this? I was on another thread and got into an argument. So I decided to back it up with the document. Guess what? I was wrong in my argument and the free traders were also wrong.

I found this offical FTAA site. http://www.ftaa-alca.org

I then clicked on 3rd draft, the Chapter XVI Services. Approximaately 1/4 of the page down you will find the words "more burdensome than". Read this part and also scroll down to professional qualilfications and read. You will see that licenses ,such as nursing licenses and CPA licenses, can be downgraded to taking an oral test or interview.

The thing that bugged me about this was the 3 words "more burdensome than" as they are not specific words. So I then went to google and typed in "more burdensome than". I got an eyeopener as to how powerful these words are.

I then went to http://www.wto.org and hit the search engine at the top of the page. Then the search engine at the bottom of the page I typed in "more burdensome than". Whoa, powerful words. I then clicked on # 8 and #9 on that page. These 2 documents explain what "more burdensome than" means.

Still not satisfied, I went to http://www.ustr.gov and again to the search engine. The 3 little words did not work so I typed in "CAFTA final text". I then went to Chapter 11. Again those 3 little words "more burdensome that" were there. On down you will read the profession critera for licenses.

As I said earlier, there is not a dimes worth of difference in any of these treaties.

With the signing of these treaties we will be giving Americas high standards of licensing to a tribunal to down-grade as they see fit. I imagine, any other law that comes in the way of a country making a profit in the US is up for grabs by the tribunal. Sickening.

These treaaties are not about trade, they are about control.

[JesseJane]

Thanks for the ping TT.. Thanks for all your research as well.. I believe you are exactly right. This is about control, and world governance.

[Gabz]

I have always believed these type things are about money and control - their control over us and our money.

[texastoo]

Read post #10. this will support your argument on what an abomination CAFTA, the FTAA abd WTO is.

[texastoo]

Read post #10 and ping those interested.

Note, the specific or non-specific language in these 3 treaties.

I am not willing to gives my country over to a tribunal.

[Just A Nobody]

Thanks for the ping JJ. More homework!

Also, doesn't NAFTA lead us into CAFTA which leads us into FTAA and so on and so on?

[Reaganwuzthebest]

I am not willing to gives my country over to a tribunal.

The heroes in Congress are the 40 Republicans resisting these scam deals like CAFTA. Hopefully they don't cave in to the enormous pressure in the coming weeks.

[JesseJane]

Yepper. Check out Texastoo's post #6.

[JesseJane]

Ooops.. correction, post #10.. Dang fangers. :)

[texastoo]

All of you need to read my steps in #10.

As Paul Harvey would say, this is the rest of the story.

CAFTA and NAFTA are only partially trade treaties. The rest is world dominance by tribunals. Our voices will never be heard again. I found out also that the original text of NAFTA didn't have these 3 words, "more burdensome than".

[texastoo]

The orginal text of NAFTA didn't have these 3 words.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

It's the elimination of our sovereignty and borders that's ultimately at stake I agree and why these treaties have to be opposed. The wealth goes south while the population flows north...

[JesseJane]

The border between Mexico and the US has already been erased under the umbrella of 'environmentalism'. See: Conclusions of the U.S.-Mexico Migration Panel

Border XXI Program

U.S.-Mexico Border 2012 Framework

Just FYI, when they speak of the BORDER REGION, if you go to the EPA website you find in the archives, the Border XXI REGION. The border between the U.S. and Mexico has been replaced by a shaded zone running between the two countries.

Tell me, how many people have heard of the BORDER REGION project and how it is tied to NAFTA and immigration policy??

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Playing the raza card

[snip]

In addition, they, along with his eminence, Mexican President Vicente Fox, believe they should be allowed to vote in our elections as well as Mexico's, even if they know less English than I know Greek

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TxDOT eyes La Entrada’s potential (Trans-Texas Corridor) aka, Illegal Alien Highway

Quoting from CorridorWatch:

News Flash - March 11, 2005>

See HB-3363 Note Below - Updated March 20, 2005

Without advance public notice, and announced late on the last day for legislative bills to be filed without the Governor's approval, TxDOT Officials joined by Governor Perry and Federal Highway Administrator Mary Peters signed a 342-page agreement with Cintra Concesiones de Infraestructuras de Transporte SA (Madrid, Spain) to create a master plan to finance and build the TTC-35 Trans Texas Corridor generally parallel to IH-35 from the Valley to the Red River. Despite growing concerns over the TTC project, Governor Perry and state officials are charging ahead as quickly as possible to build the first 600-mile segment of the 4,000-mile Trans Texas Corridor. Portions of this agreement are being kept secret under the guise that they contain proprietary business information. CorridorWatch.org believes in open and transparent government.[snip]

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And more....

La Entrada al Pacifico, or Gateway to the Pacific

From Presidio to the Pacific

In 2003, Mexico will complete a major section of a new trade corridor to Texas, the La Entrada al Pacifico, or Gateway to the Pacific. The new route is expected to increase trade between the U.S. and Mexico--particularly in Mexico's largest state, Chihuahua--by providing a highway from Chihuahua to Presidio, Texas.

Texas already has most of the necessary infrastructure in place to take advantage of trade opportunities as they develop in Chihuahua. While some projects are in the works to accommodate increased trade in Texas, the majority of the La Entrada effort is taking place

[Reaganwuzthebest]

The border between Mexico and the US has already been erased under the umbrella of 'environmentalism'.

Interesting that Congress recently voted to put the military on the border, we'll see what the Senate does with it and whether it was just for show. For all practical purposes the border is officially open today.

[hedgetrimmer]

Bump.

[JesseJane]

Reaganwuzthebst...

Do you have a source for that??? This is the second time I've read that, but without a source. Of course I've heard about the big 200 more BP's, but contrast that with them being ordered to stand down when the MMP were there. So.... I'd love to see a source and get myself up to speed on that.. If you have it would you post it to me, or ping me??? Thanks! :)

[sgtbono2002]

It isnt only in my county its all over the country. It isnt the laws. Laws are passed by a legislative body and you can get rid of them throught the vote. Its the regulations that nail you. Regulations are written up by people hired by governmtent to run thing like the health department, the planning and zoning, licensing other boards . I can live with laws its regulations made up by beaureaucrats who are answerable to practically no one.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

They voted on Goode's amendment last week and it passed 245-184.

"Troops" bill passes in House of Representatives!!

[JesseJane]

Wow, thanks much RWTB!!!! :)

[JesseJane]

http://www.radioiowa.com/gestalt/go.cfm?objectid=7C473E61-482C-4E28-83BAF1653DDD9FB7

Congressman King says military should block illegals on U-S borders

by O.Kay Henderson

Congressman Steve King says U.S. military troops should be deployed to patrol America's borders to prevent illegal immigration. "We have to seal our border," King says. He says there are a number of ways to do the job. King, a Republican from Kiron, recently visited the U.S. border with Mexico and flew air patrols to observe what's being done now. He says the recent volunteer effort to patrol the border proves illegals can be kept out more effectively than what's being done now.

King has pushed a proposal in Congress that would send more American soldiers to the borders. "That's great terrain to train to go to Iraq," King says. "You need to keep an Army busy."

He says National Guard members are there, wearing bullet-proof vests and helmets, training today and "we could just put more there." King is also drafting legislation that would dramatically increase the financial penalties for U.S. businesses that employ illegal immigrants. He estimates the penalty he envisions, which would be tied to payroll, would be at least 50 percent of the salary paid to an illegal immigrant. King, though, says it will be difficult to get immigration reform past President Bush. "The president doesn't have the heart to reform immigration law," King says.

King plans to "highlight" the costs of illegal immigration. For example, King says thousands of Americans are murdered or raped every year by illegal immigrants and he's asked for the statistics. He says he'll release the data as soon as he receives it. King says immigration will be a major issue in the 2008 presidential campaign. King calls immigration the "big sleeping issue" that Iowans and Americans want a national debate on, but that presidential candidates refuse to confront. King made his comments during taping of the Iowa Public Television program "Iowa Press" which airs this evening.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

King is a strong advocate of cracking down on illegal immigration. We need more like him both in Congress and especially the Senate.