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FBI arrests two men on terror charges
MSNBC News - Terrorism & Security ^ | Updated: 10:47 p.m. ET May 29, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/29/2005 10:30:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle

Move follows two-year sting operation

NEW YORK - The FBI arrested a Florida doctor and a New York martial arts expert on federal terrorism charges, saying they conspired to treat and train terrorists, federal prosecutors announced Sunday.

Rafiq Abdus Sabir, a Boca Raton physician, and Tarik Shah, a self-described martial arts expert in New York, were both charged in Manhattan federal court with conspiring to provide material support to al-Qaida, according to the U.S. attorney’s office for the Southern District of New York.

Both men are American citizens.

Prosecutors said Sabir agreed to treat jihadists, or holy warriors, in Saudi Arabia. Shah agreed to train them in hand-to-hand combat.

The one-count complaint details a sting operation from 2003 to 2005 in which the two men took an oath pledging their allegiance to al-Qaida.

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1 posted on 05/29/2005 10:30:23 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: Cindy; yonif; Alouette; Yehuda; dennisw; Lent; TorahTrueJew; Travis McGee; Jeff Head; rdb3; ...
They're still here ping.



"Terrorists Among Us - The Jihad in America" VHS at Amazon.Com
2 posted on 05/29/2005 10:31:34 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle
Job well done.

Now let's see how many of their friends they'll rat on.

3 posted on 05/29/2005 10:34:13 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: F15Eagle

Justed posted...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1413014/posts


4 posted on 05/29/2005 10:35:03 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: BigFinn

Sorry. Tried to match the title. Oh well, we'll use both to keep informing the American public.


5 posted on 05/29/2005 10:36:04 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

NY and FL. Wonder how both men met? Over the Internet? I wonder how big the web is?


6 posted on 05/29/2005 10:36:34 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: endthematrix

Interesting they're in the two states often mentioned re: 9/11. There must be quite a nest. Michigan is supposed to be one too. Cetain cities. Dearborn, I think.


7 posted on 05/29/2005 10:38:16 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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To: F15Eagle

Rafiq Abdus Sabir, a Boca Raton, Fla., physician

8 posted on 05/29/2005 10:40:12 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: F15Eagle
...Boca Raton, huh. Where have I heard that before?

Can't say that I am surprised.

The anthrax case was not solely domestic, if at all.

Now this in Boca Raton? Come-on!!!
9 posted on 05/29/2005 10:41:34 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: F15Eagle

Sabir is a licensed medical doctor in Florida, New York and Pennsylvania, according to the Florida Department of Health Web site. He received his medical degree from Columbia University in 1981 and his bachelor's degree in Biology from City of New York College.

Daniel McBride, spokesman for the Islamic Center of Boca Raton, said Sabir lived in a Boca Raton gated community with Arleen Morgan, a registered nurse, and their two young sons.


10 posted on 05/29/2005 10:41:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: F15Eagle

The other thread doesn't offer the connection. There is a frontpage.com link that gives details on the Boca Raton Islamic nesting ground.


11 posted on 05/29/2005 10:44:10 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: F15Eagle

Rafiq Abdus Sabir and Tarik Shah.

Huh.

And for this we pat down grandmas at the airport?

PC anyone?


12 posted on 05/29/2005 10:45:10 PM PDT by Air Force Brat
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To: Pro-Bush

Boca Raton, City of Terror
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7982


13 posted on 05/29/2005 10:45:13 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: Pro-Bush
Rafiq Abdus Sabir, 50, an emergency-room doctor

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A source said the FBI was working on a third arrest in Florida during the weekend, but details were not confirmed.

With their arrests, the FBI thwarted their plans to recruit "brothers who are ready," according to officials.

14 posted on 05/29/2005 10:47:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Air Force Brat

Yep, while frisking grandma's we're still having a porous border.


15 posted on 05/29/2005 10:47:47 PM PDT by F15Eagle
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Sabir, also described as "the Doctor," pledged to provide medical assistance to terrorists in Saudi Arabia who couldn't visit hospitals, the statement said. Both men had staked out possible training centers for terrorists, including a Long Island warehouse, and had a list of possible recruits, some who already had traveled overseas to attend training camps in the Middle East, officials said in the complaint.

One name on the list confiscated by officials was that of Seifullah Chapman, a member of the Virginia Jihad Network, convicted in Virginia in 2004 for supporting terrorists and sentenced to 85 years in prison.

Shah allegedly had traveled to Phoenix, Ariz., to recruit for al-Qaida. He and Sabir also had attempted to travel to Afghanistan for training in 1998, the statement said. In their bid to be recruited by the undercover agent, officials said, Shah and Sabir took a loyalty oath and "committed themselves to the path of Holy War."

16 posted on 05/29/2005 10:50:38 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: F15Eagle
Sabir had plans to travel to Saudi Arabia, where he was employed as a medical doctor at a Saudi military base, the statement said. He was scheduled to leave June 2.

Sabir has worked at Glades General Hospital, emergency-room workers said and records confirm.

17 posted on 05/29/2005 10:51:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Nachum
>>>Now let's see how many of their friends they'll rat on. <<<

To get that info, we will have to "squeeze them" hard! I'm sure that treasonious organizations like the ALCU will leap to their defense.

Personally I vote to take them to Kuwait or Jordan and let them do the squeezing for us.

18 posted on 05/29/2005 10:56:16 PM PDT by HardStarboard (With Lebanon simmering, Iran on medium-high, whose next? I vote Syria....lets turn up the heat!)
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To: F15Eagle

Sabir emerged in some accounts by friends and relatives as a pious man who moved to Florida to remake his life and who gained the respect of worshipers at the mosque he attended regularly. He struggled to make amends as a father to his estranged children in New York, where records show he left behind a life mired in debt.

Relatives said Sabir's grown children, Jabreel Sabir, 18, and Safiya Sabir, 21, were visiting their father and were jolted from sleep about 6 a.m. Saturday when federal agents arrived at Sabir's home in gated Villa San Remo.

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Sabir was born into a large Catholic family in New York and converted to Islam in high school. His father left the family home when he was very young and his mother was unable to care for her children, so Sabir and his siblings were placed in a group home through Sabir's high school years, Doyle said. Sabir went on to earn a medical degree from Columbia University.

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According to the federal statement, both men had waited a long time to take bayat, an oath of loyalty to al-Qaida and the "path of Holy War."

After taking his pledge, Sabir told the undercover agent, "... you should be careful what you ask for because you might get it," the statement said.

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Authorities say Sabir and a second man, Tarik Shah of the Bronx, who described Sabir as his partner in jihad, plotted for two years before being arrested.

Shah, who is American-born, is the son of a Malcolm X follower identified as "Lieutenant X," a high-ranking police official said. Shah had studied at City College and Columbia University. The official said Shah owed $500,000 related to his studies at the schools.


19 posted on 05/29/2005 11:04:06 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: endthematrix
Incredible article.

Thanks!

....There is a problem here (Boca Raton). Not a small problem, but a big one… and one that is happening not just in Boca Raton, but in major cities all over our country. Will our government sit back and let things happen, or will it begin to take action, so that the next 9/11 never becomes reality?
20 posted on 05/29/2005 11:04:46 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: kcvl
Sounds like we have a few moles in the mix. Hopefully, we'll continue keep thwarting such plans for attack, before they happen.
21 posted on 05/29/2005 11:08:10 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Pro-Bush

Hey, the good guys nabbed two bad guys...

Terrorism thwarted!


22 posted on 05/29/2005 11:13:05 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: Pro-Bush

Fax (845) 838-0919 A Parish of The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York NY. ... is the same as Tarik Shah's telephone number...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=%28845%29+838-0919&btnG=Search


23 posted on 05/29/2005 11:17:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
"Shah owed $500,000 related to his studies at the schools"

But not very bright...

24 posted on 05/29/2005 11:18:35 PM PDT by endthematrix (Thank you US armed forces, for everything you give and have given!)
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To: F15Eagle

An American physician sworn to al Quaida? I hope they take a look at his patient-treatment history to see if he helped any of his "infidel" patients die before their time.


25 posted on 05/29/2005 11:20:17 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" - Pope Urban II, 1097 A.D.)
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To: kcvl
Intriguing. Did you call it yet?

If so, is there a fax tone?

coincidence?
26 posted on 05/29/2005 11:20:41 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Pro-Bush
Did you call it yet?

ARE YOU KIDDIING?! I don't want to be caught in a JIHADist telephone directory!!!

27 posted on 05/29/2005 11:24:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl

..lol, you and me both!


28 posted on 05/29/2005 11:27:08 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Pro-Bush

The telephone number to that Parish also belongs to Hector Velasquez. Does that sound correct?!



http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%28845%29+838-0915&btnG=Google+Search


29 posted on 05/29/2005 11:29:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
The Jihadi's telephone number in question is (845) 838-0919, which is also the fax line for the Catholic Church of New York & You are right, Hector's number (845) 838-0915 is also the main number for the Catholic Church of New York.

Trippy!

Someone out there will call the numbers. I am positive. I just hope we get an answer. I am curious now.
30 posted on 05/29/2005 11:37:11 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Pro-Bush
Shah also known as Tarik Ibn Osman Shah, Tarik Jenkins, and Abu Musab

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Prosecutors said Shah presented himself and Sabir as a ``package deal.''

Shah allegedly indicated he wanted train fighters ''to wage jihad'' and to ''find people who were willing to press the fight,'' prosecutors said.

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The Florida Chapter of Council on American-Islamic Relations didn't return phone messages to The Associated Press on Sunday.

31 posted on 05/29/2005 11:38:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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Dr. Daniel McBride, spokesman for the Islamic Center of Boca Raton and a friend of Sabir, said Sabir works in the emergency rooms of two hospitals in Palm Beach County.

"That's absurd," McBride said of the charges against Sabir. "He is a quality guy and a quality physician. He's all about helping others. That's why he became a doctor.

"It would shock me beyond belief if [the allegation] was true."

32 posted on 05/29/2005 11:43:33 PM PDT by kcvl
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The charge Sabir faces is from a 1996 law making it a crime for anyone in the United States to knowingly aid terrorist organizations. That includes providing money, lodging, training, false documentation or identification, weapons, equipment and transportation, according to the Department of Justice Web site.

Providing medical assistance or religious material is not a crime, according to the Justice Department.

Someone could face charges for anything from making a small donation to a terrorist front group to playing a key role in a known terrorist organization.

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A woman who answered the door at his home in the gated Villa San Remo community west of Boca Raton on Saturday afternoon said only, "There's nothing to talk about."

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Sabir graduated from City College of New York with a bachelor's degree in biology and in 1981 graduated from Columbia University's medical school with a specialty in emergency medicine, according to Florida state records and Columbia's alumni Web site. He practiced in the New York City area in the 1980s and '90s before moving to Florida.

Sabir received his Florida driver's license in 2002 and his medical license in 2003, according to state records.


33 posted on 05/29/2005 11:46:57 PM PDT by kcvl
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...Both men are American citizens....Both men should be hung asap....Start setting some examples before more Americans are killed.


34 posted on 05/30/2005 2:59:08 AM PDT by Route101
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To: kcvl

This Shah dude is a deadbeat. Is a home grown black Muslim.

Shah, who is American-born, is the son of a Malcolm X follower identified as "Lieutenant X," a high-ranking police official said. Shah had studied at City College and Columbia University. The official said Shah owed $500,000 related to his studies at the schools.

35 posted on 05/30/2005 4:42:14 AM PDT by dennisw (He writes everything's been returned which was owed...)
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To: kcvl

McBride is a convert to Islam...http://www.jannah.org/morearticles/31.html long and very interesting history on McBride.

This article references backlash of anti-semitic comments McBride made...http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/26/muslims/index3.html

This link shows the islamist militant ties of McBride http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/177

This link details the ties to Global Relief - terrorist funding and McBride's mosque http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=7982

Enough info for a start...


36 posted on 05/30/2005 5:01:23 AM PDT by milford421
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Linked to Sami al-Arian http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=7982

Imam of the Boca Raton mosque flees to Des Moines http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050418/LIFE05/504180354/1039/LIFE&template=printart


37 posted on 05/30/2005 5:08:07 AM PDT by milford421
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To: F15Eagle

Rounding up the bad guys ~ Bump!


38 posted on 05/30/2005 8:08:51 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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