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1 posted on 05/29/2005 6:21:10 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

bump for later

and thats a mighty hefty (and nice) homepage you got there my friend.


2 posted on 05/29/2005 6:32:08 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Coleus

bump for later

and thats a mighty hefty (and nice) homepage you got there my friend.


3 posted on 05/29/2005 6:32:08 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Coleus; Admin Moderator

Sorry about the double post.


4 posted on 05/29/2005 6:33:54 PM PDT by USAfearsnobody
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To: Coleus

marked for later reading


5 posted on 05/29/2005 6:38:19 PM PDT by Voir Dire (I'm seeing and saying.)
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To: Coleus

Bottom line: queer is bad.


6 posted on 05/29/2005 6:39:02 PM PDT by ReadyNow
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To: Coleus

Dennis Prager BUMP!


7 posted on 05/29/2005 6:41:43 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Coleus
Page 5 of this pdf file "Sexual Ehics" by Pr. Philip Max Johnson also states the positive case for Marriage very succinctly.
9 posted on 05/29/2005 6:45:29 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Coleus
My church (Methodist) is getting a new pastor shortly. Three bad things:

1) She's a woman. I've known 5 female pastors. All have been a disaster.
2) I've seen a number of her sermons. She seems obsessed with convincing people that homosexuality is not a sin.
3) She believes that people can pick and choose parts of the Bible. If one part doesn't seem "right" to you, then it isn't and you can ignore it.

Her deep-seated sexual issues have distanced her from God and she is working hard to bring others down the road to Hell with her.

10 posted on 05/29/2005 6:56:07 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Bump!


13 posted on 05/29/2005 7:02:25 PM PDT by A. Pole (Mandarin Meng-tzu: "The duty of the ruler is to ensure the prosperous livelihood of his subjects.")
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To: Coleus

Wow. Long but very worthwhile article. Putting it into my favorites so I can read it later!


14 posted on 05/29/2005 7:10:52 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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To: Coleus

ping for later reading


15 posted on 05/29/2005 7:20:25 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Coleus

Thanks for posting this important article. It clarifies a great deal of the damage done by this abomination.


16 posted on 05/29/2005 7:49:21 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: Coleus

Thanks for the good post.


17 posted on 05/29/2005 8:22:31 PM PDT by UnklGene
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When Judaism demanded that all sexual activity be channeled into marriage, it changed the world. The Torah's prohibition of non-marital sex quite simply made the creation of Western civilization possible.

So is polygamy ok again?

18 posted on 05/29/2005 8:23:31 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Coleus

Prager Alert**** Bump for later reading


20 posted on 05/29/2005 8:45:37 PM PDT by QueenBee3 ("Phone's ringin dude.")
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To: Coleus

Good post!


21 posted on 05/29/2005 9:06:49 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Coleus

Great read. Thanks for posting.


23 posted on 05/29/2005 9:18:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Coleus

"Seven Laws of Noah,"

http://www.aish.com/wallcam/7_Noachide_Laws.asp

Do not murder.
Do not steal.
Do not worship false gods.
Do not be sexually immoral.
Do not eat the limb of an animal before it is killed.
Do not curse God.
Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.

Makes sense to me.


25 posted on 05/29/2005 10:12:05 PM PDT by myt4u
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To: Coleus
Societies that did not place boundaries around sexuality were stymied in their development. The subsequent dominance of the Western world can largely be attributed to the sexual revolution initiated by Judaism and later carried forward by Christianity

This paragraph, the first, stopped further reading. The Chinese historically had strong family bonds. Islam puts strict constraints on sex. Yet, Christianity with a tradition of marriage is the cause of western success? That's what the lead implies.

Both China and Islamic countries are stuck in a quagmire of brute rule all the while multipling like rabbits in marital bonds. So was Christian Europe until the Renaissance. I think western success has more to do with freedom and right to property. The Romans built an Empire that ascended when farmers could own land. It fell when the government began taking too much of their property. Christianity did not save Rome. It didn't save the commoner from servitude for the next 1000 years.

30 posted on 05/29/2005 11:30:28 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: Coleus

Fascinating, i bookmarked it for later.


33 posted on 05/30/2005 5:53:33 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Coleus

Excellent article!


35 posted on 05/30/2005 5:57:42 AM PDT by livius
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36 posted on 05/30/2005 6:08:14 AM PDT by SJackson (I don't think the red-tiled roofs are as sturdy as my asbestos one, Palestinian refugee)
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To: Coleus

Who is he that is not of woman borne?


39 posted on 05/30/2005 7:24:57 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Coleus

Bump.

Long but interesting read!


42 posted on 05/30/2005 8:00:39 AM PDT by null and void (I am my own alter ego...)
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To: Coleus
Why Judaism (and then Christianity) Rejected Homosexuality

Because its queer thats why.
47 posted on 05/30/2005 10:44:56 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Coleus

Because it's "icky?"

Mark


50 posted on 05/30/2005 6:43:31 PM PDT by MarkL (I've got a fever, and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!!!)
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53 posted on 05/30/2005 7:03:20 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: Coleus

long, but geat article.


56 posted on 05/30/2005 7:20:37 PM PDT by cookcounty ("We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the Courts" ---Abe Lincoln, 1858.)
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To: Coleus

will read later


59 posted on 05/30/2005 7:33:55 PM PDT by fso301
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Ahhh, a new sexual/social frame...

...the first thing Judaism did was to de-sexualize God: “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” by his will, not through any sexual behavior. This was an utterly radical break with all other religions, and it alone changed human history. The gods of virtually all civilizations engaged in sexual relations. In the Near East, the Babylonian god Ishtar seduced a man, Gilgamesh, the Babylonian hero. In Egyptian religion, the god Osiris had sexual relations with his sister, the goddess Isis, and she conceived the god Horus. In Canaan, El, the chief god, had sex with Asherah. In Hindu belief, the god Krishna was sexually active, having had many wives and pursuing Radha; the god Samba, son of Krishna, seduced mortal women and men. In Greek beliefs, Zeus married Hera, chased women, abducted the beautiful young male, Ganymede, and masturbated at other times; Poseidon married Amphitrite, pursued Demeter, and raped Tantalus. In Rome, the gods sexually pursued both men and women.

61 posted on 05/30/2005 7:50:47 PM PDT by GOPJ
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Hmmmm, cause and effect or a third force affecting both? Raped Arab boy's displaced rage equals suicide bombers?

The women of Arab society, wherein male homosexuality has been widespread, remain in a notably low state in the modern world. This may be a coincidence, but common sense suggests a linkage. So, too, in traditional Chinese culture, the low state of women has been linked to widespread homosexuality. As a French physician reported from China in the nineteenth century, “Chinese women were such docile, homebound dullards that the men, like those of ancient Greece, sought courtesans and boys.”

67 posted on 05/30/2005 8:17:21 PM PDT by GOPJ
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(sarcasm) And here I though the Judeo-Christanity's ban on homosexuality was a counter-attack against the Roman culture for oppression against the Jews and later the Chirstians in the Roman Empire, which included the Holy Lands of the Middle-East.


90 posted on 05/31/2005 8:09:34 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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Because Judiasm, then Christianity, have been the vehicles for God's revelation of ultimate truth to mankind for the last 4000 years.

And prior to Abraham, homosexuality (with all other forms of sexual perversion) was still wrong. Note how God solved the problem of Adam's loneliness in Genesis 2:18-24.

98 posted on 05/31/2005 3:20:02 PM PDT by TonyRo76 (American by birth. Patriot by choice. Christian by grace.)
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To: Coleus

bump


104 posted on 05/31/2005 7:39:40 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Coleus

read later


113 posted on 06/01/2005 5:49:05 AM PDT by sauropod (De gustibus non est disputandum)
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A bump for reference.


116 posted on 06/08/2005 10:40:08 AM PDT by Siobhan ("Whenever you come to save Rome, make all the noise you want." -- Pius XII)
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118 posted on 10/26/2005 3:28:55 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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By and large, it is society, not the individual, that chooses whether homosexuality will be widely practiced. A society's values, much more than individual tendencies, determine the extent of homosexuality in that society. Thus, we can have great sympathy for the exclusively homosexual individual while strongly opposing social acceptance of homosexuality. In this way we retain both our hearts and our values.

Bump

119 posted on 10/26/2005 4:35:40 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon
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123 posted on 10/30/2005 1:30:29 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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ping


125 posted on 10/30/2005 2:23:25 PM PST by Nightshift (Faith is something everyone has. The question is faith in what?)
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