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Robby Gordon said Saturday he will not compete in the race again unless the field is equalized.

he wont compete in the race again until team car owners are confeident that he has enough skill to drive the car without crashing it into the wall at turn one wich could be years down the road maybe he should take driving lessons from a woman instead of sitting around bitching like one

1 posted on 05/28/2005 8:03:38 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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2 posted on 05/28/2005 8:05:09 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: freepatriot32

I hope she wins just to piss this guy off.


3 posted on 05/28/2005 8:05:16 PM PDT by NHAntiMassRedRebel (Our only fault is that we're 40 minutes north of Boston.)
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To: freepatriot32

Give her a box of TDU weights and call it affirmative action.


4 posted on 05/28/2005 8:05:53 PM PDT by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: freepatriot32
What is this, NASCAR turning into a horse race?

Quit your whining

5 posted on 05/28/2005 8:06:25 PM PDT by Popman ("I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it." Patrick Henry)
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To: freepatriot32

So, if I put a jockey in one of these cars he will automatically win. Why not put a weight requirement of inverse the weight of your brain to join these races?


6 posted on 05/28/2005 8:07:35 PM PDT by econ_grad
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"Right off the bat, a guy my size is spotting her 105 pounds," Gordon said. "That's the reason she's so much faster."

Sounds like he's conceding defeat. My suggestion: Give up and become a housewife. Make your spouse bring home the bacon.


7 posted on 05/28/2005 8:07:46 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: freepatriot32
What no pics?


9 posted on 05/28/2005 8:10:38 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: freepatriot32

Most athletes complain about women competitors because they aren't big and strong enough. Now they complain because they're too small?

Robby ain't doin' so hot on the NASCAR circuit. Maybe he should pipe down and race a little harder.


10 posted on 05/28/2005 8:10:41 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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What a whiner. He's making himself look really petty and foolish.

So should there be weight classes in auto-racing?


12 posted on 05/28/2005 8:11:34 PM PDT by saquin
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To: freepatriot32

It's as unfair as male-against-female in any other sport. He's right.

In my own opinion- so what? If a woman wants to box Mike Tyson, she should be free to try.


13 posted on 05/28/2005 8:11:58 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: freepatriot32
I've defended this twit in the past, no more.

I'm on the verge of equating the name "Gordon" in racing to the name "Kennedy" in politics - don't wanna hear it, don't wanna see it, wouldn't EVER vote for it.

14 posted on 05/28/2005 8:14:05 PM PDT by norton (build a wall and post the rules at the gate)
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Sounds like Robby Gordon's just found something to whine about since he hasn't got a ride. Blame it on somebody else.


15 posted on 05/28/2005 8:14:11 PM PDT by Wneighbor
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"If you're not a race driver, stay the hell home. Don't come here and grumble about going too fast. Get the hell out of the race car if you've got feathers on your legs or butt. Put a kerosene rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat that candy ass."

-#3


16 posted on 05/28/2005 8:14:20 PM PDT by RichInOC (...R.I.P.)
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To: freepatriot32

Driving lessons from a woman?

LMAO


17 posted on 05/28/2005 8:16:28 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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in an arena where measured speeds are carried out to three places, a whole mile per hour is a LOT over time... that said, it's the CAR that has to meet spec. weight, not the driver. next year if they want to have a spec. weight for car AND driver, so be it... but for now, QUIT YER WHINING!!!
19 posted on 05/28/2005 8:17:56 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: freepatriot32; NormsRevenge; All

SHUT THE F*** up Robby

First of all rack her she doing good so far I don't think she win entire race she has a shot

SHUT F*** UP


21 posted on 05/28/2005 8:18:56 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: freepatriot32

Robby needs to remember his extra weight gives him an advantage - more "down" force.


22 posted on 05/28/2005 8:20:19 PM PDT by auboy
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What a big, fat 200-pound-plus whiner!!! If she were 50 pounds heavier and not a babe, he'd have to find something else to whine about!!

Loser!!


24 posted on 05/28/2005 8:20:49 PM PDT by paulat
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I don't understand all the venom against Gordon. He has a point. Patrick is quickly becoming a media darling in large measure because she is female. Indeed she does have a built in advantage. So maybe before the media gets carried away with her being the Billie Jean King of racing they could honestly discuss the weight issue. People root for her as an underdog and are willing to provide her with what may be an unfair advantage. The point is, if NASCAR is going to open up then the rules should change as well to address these issues. It's called fair play and sportsmanship.


25 posted on 05/28/2005 8:21:04 PM PDT by Obadiah
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To: freepatriot32

Yeah, she's one of the lighter drivers on the track. She's also one of the younger and less experienced drivers on the track. Things even out.


26 posted on 05/28/2005 8:22:46 PM PDT by RichInOC (...udden udden.)
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A lot of people here don't know what they're talking about. One hundred pounds is a very significant amount of weight in a race car. It affects everything from fuel consumption to handling to tire wear. Most racing series including Formula 1, (not IRL, though) have a minimum weight limit that includes the weight of the driver in the car. All Gordon is saying is that IRL's rules should conform to virtually every other major racing series when it comes to calculating the minimum car weight. Still, it's no reason to boycott the race, but his basic point is totally valid.
27 posted on 05/28/2005 8:23:09 PM PDT by clintonh8r (So....Is means testing now a conservative value? Apparently 40% of FReepers think it is.)
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Danica Patrick's presence here in Indy has been a giagantic boon to the race. I haven't heard this much buzz over the 500 in years. And, yes, her beauty definitely has something to do with it:

29 posted on 05/28/2005 8:24:35 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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To: freepatriot32
There's something to be said for the team sport of Formula 1. Cars are built to specification by individual teams rather than a cut and paste chassis and engine scheme.

But in a racing league where the cars are almost identical, Gordon should stop his whining and adapt his racing strategy.


31 posted on 05/28/2005 8:26:06 PM PDT by SaveTheChief (<insert clever, witty, or silly statement here>)
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To: freepatriot32

what a pansy.
I can see raising the subject of handicapping - like in horse-racing - but refusing to compete is just lame.


33 posted on 05/28/2005 8:27:32 PM PDT by King Prout (RG'OIHGV 08 YAEGRKoirliha35u9p089 y5gep'iojq5g353hat5eohiahetb98 ye5po)
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Wah. What's next...heavy jockeys complaining about skinny jockeys?


37 posted on 05/28/2005 8:29:59 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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hey gordon: starve yourself.

Question to all: who's got more track time / experience / completed races - Sarah Fisher or Patrick?


39 posted on 05/28/2005 8:30:27 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support a platform that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.3.7)
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Saying an extra 100 lbs in a race car is unfair is like saying a tic-tac in a whale will fill it up.


40 posted on 05/28/2005 8:30:54 PM PDT by EdHallick
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To: freepatriot32

Why is he complaining? She`s a woman driver. She will start the race by going in reverse, then hit the gas instead of the brake, then hit the cars as they lap her, then blame it on the other cars for getting her way, then complain that this is making her late for shopping.


48 posted on 05/28/2005 8:34:24 PM PDT by EdHallick
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He`s complaining about a woman driver in a race? Shouldn`t he be happy?

"They told me it was a ferry boat!"

51 posted on 05/28/2005 8:37:54 PM PDT by EdHallick
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To: freepatriot32

A fine whine from Robby Gordon.


55 posted on 05/28/2005 8:39:30 PM PDT by Tribune7
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"Right off the bat, a guy my size is spotting her 105 pounds," Gordon said. "That's the reason she's so much faster."

No, Mr, Gordon; that's why you are so much slower. And if you want to take away a smaller driver's advantage, go on a diet instead of demanding a rules change.

The girl could just as easily complain that her larger-muscled male competitors have a strength advantage, and demand a rule change to "level the playing field" for her, but AFAIK she hasn't.

This has to be just about the most obnoxious lack of class on the part of a racer I've seen in a long, long time.

61 posted on 05/28/2005 8:43:26 PM PDT by longshadow
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"I won't race against her until the IRL does something to take that advantage away."

Lose some of your own weight then you whiner.

I hope she trounces him.


69 posted on 05/28/2005 8:49:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland
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Lloyd Ruby wouldn't bitch about it. Neither would Roscoe Turner. I knew them both.
73 posted on 05/28/2005 8:53:44 PM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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A PING for yer interest!


77 posted on 05/28/2005 8:55:50 PM PDT by NYTexan
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From the land of restrictor plates comes the cry for weight classes. I don't know the physics, and I'll bet Gordon doesn't know half of the factors either. Should we handicap the men because they have more upper-body strength?


78 posted on 05/28/2005 8:55:56 PM PDT by GVnana
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1. Was anybody really knocking down Robby Gordon's door trying to get him to drive their car at Indianapolis this year.

2. Check his abysmal record this year in NASCAR ... could this be frustration talking from someone who, throughout his entire driving career, has never IMHO lived up to his potential in any series, and sees himself falling further down the ladder?

3. I don't think Ms. Patrick will win tomorrow because while she's proved she can go fast ... and from watching her, she's TONS better than Sarah Fisher, the most recent "great female hope" in racing ... winning a 500-mile race, especially the Indy 500, requires more than simply going fast, you've got to use your head, you've got to stay out of trouble, you've got to save your car and you've got to get a whole bunch of good luck. If she does win, more power to her.

4. Regarding weight in NASCAR, if you'll check the details, an awful lot of the guys who are making noise right now are small in stature. Not Mark Martin small, but way smaller than the 6-0, 190-pounders you used to have in the good ole days. From the recent photos of Robby, he looks like he ought to push away from the buffet line a little more often. Could there be some frustration talking there as well?

84 posted on 05/28/2005 8:59:34 PM PDT by GB
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I don't see what Gordon is complaining about. It's not like they're racing real cars anyway. This plastic model car racing is the most boring thing I have ever watched. Wonder what Gordon will complain about if Patrick ever moves to the real circuit of NASCAR


90 posted on 05/28/2005 9:01:53 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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This isn't combat and she's matched physical qualifications to race. Let her run with it and more power to her. :)


102 posted on 05/28/2005 9:10:34 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ("THE REDNECK PROBLEM" ..... we prefer the term, "Agro-Americans")
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Aww, the poor widdle baby-WUSS!!!


103 posted on 05/28/2005 9:11:52 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Carnac: A siren, a baby and a liberal. Answer: Name three things that whine.)
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At the end of the race there will be 32 losers. If you're afraid of losing, do something noncompetative for a living.


110 posted on 05/28/2005 9:20:16 PM PDT by ol' hoghead (If Islam is the ROP, why do Moslems cut our throuts and blaspheme saying "Allah akbar"?)
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Michael Moore joined in the complaint and was considering EEOC action.


111 posted on 05/28/2005 9:21:16 PM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AD fan club: "ROFL!" -- Dan from Michigan; "Very well stated, AD." -- Diana in Wisconsin)
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Robbie, how many Indy 500 wins do Janet Guthrie and Lynn St. James have?


112 posted on 05/28/2005 9:21:59 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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The logical end of this process is that NASCAR becomes a sport dominated by slight women, children, and dwarfs. Anorexia will lead to at least one heart-breaking death that will be chronicled in home ec and health classes in middle schools across America. Men, seeking a new masculine spectator sport, will turn to ice dancing.


114 posted on 05/28/2005 9:22:58 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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While his point is correct, it is within the rules... She can race and win if she can. You don't hear anyone saying they should equalize football weights so women can play.


117 posted on 05/28/2005 9:24:52 PM PDT by rlmorel
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She looks strikingly familiar...



Oh yeah. I remember now...



Wow. Just...wow.
120 posted on 05/28/2005 9:26:32 PM PDT by justt bloomin
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Behold. Next year's winner of the Indy 500.


124 posted on 05/28/2005 9:29:37 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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Whine, whine. What about the male drivers who weigh more than Gordon? Is he going to add weights to HIS car to compensate for "his advantage" over them?


127 posted on 05/28/2005 9:30:04 PM PDT by richmwill
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[ Gordon, a former open-wheel driver now in NASCAR, contends that Patrick is at an advantage over the rest of the competitors because she only weighs 100 pounds. Because all the cars weigh the same, Patrick's is lighter on the race track. ]

Bull because PMS will make her more competitive and probably DANGEROUS besides... I wouldn't compete against her till she has her ovaries removed.. then it might be fair..

Hmmm, weight.. wonder if a jockey would make a good race car driver..

130 posted on 05/28/2005 9:35:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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I hope she does well at Indianapolis. Let's face it, she is getting publicity because she is a solid driver who qualified pretty well and she has good looks. That always counts.
I always root for the Rahal-Letterman team. They are based here in Columbus. Bobby Rahal put Columbus on the auto racing map and even brought an Indy race to the city in the 1980's, the Columbus 500. He is one of the best to ever hit the speedway. As an Ohioan and a racing fan (NASCAR and Indy), I hope he can maybe be influential about getting another big speedway here in the state. Mid-Ohio is a nice facility, but I don't think it could attract a NASCAR or Busch race. I believe the Indy cars still race there and at Cleveland Burke Lakefront Airport. Mansfield just got a NASCAR truck race. Hopefully the racing industry can get some events here because there is a market.


139 posted on 05/28/2005 9:42:40 PM PDT by Columbus Dawg (Columbus: Where our mayor is not offended by rape, and our football players cause trouble.)
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Total vehicle weight is consistently measured with driver's weight & full fuel tanks included in every facet of weights and measures, for commerce, taxation, and transportation safety requirements, worldwide. Why racing has no such requirement is not only archaic, it should place a cloud on every race ever run without an operators weight consideration.

Unfortunately for the racing industry it took a cry baby and a rookie female ace driver to open up the rule book for inspection and final clarification.

It's beginning to look like big fat good old boys are in a heep 'a trouble! Can you say "Tofu Diet"? LOL!! No, I can't either! :-)
140 posted on 05/28/2005 9:42:45 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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