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Autry calls for halt in illegals. Fresno mayor offers to host a summit.
FresnoBee ^

Posted on 05/27/2005 4:03:25 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

Fresno Mayor Alan Autry waded into a volatile federal issue Thursday in his annual State of the City speech, calling for a two-year moratorium on immigration in order to address the "chaos now masquerading as a border."

Autry acknowledged that he would likely get criticism for his comments, much as Gov. Schwarzenegger came under fire after praising Minuteman Project volunteers who patrolled the Mexican border.

(Excerpt) Read more at fresnobee.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: alanautry; aliens; autry; california; fresno; halt; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; mayor
How can a mayor do what an entire nation can't?
1 posted on 05/27/2005 4:03:26 PM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe

We need more people like this, shining the light on this massive invasion...


2 posted on 05/27/2005 4:06:44 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Happy2BMe
a two-year moratorium on immigration in order to address the "chaos now masquerading as a border."

Excellent idea, but difficult to do when we have a chaos masquerading as a federal gov't.

3 posted on 05/27/2005 4:07:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: MeekOneGOP; devolve; potlatch; Gipper08; Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; reagan_fanatic; ...
Long - HOT summer ping.

(Starting in California and ending God knows where.)

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" . . calling for a two-year moratorium on immigration in order to address the "chaos now masquerading as a border."

4 posted on 05/27/2005 4:09:16 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
This Autry could keep 'em out.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

5 posted on 05/27/2005 4:12:20 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Happy2BMe; farmfriend; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge
Head em off at the pass Mr. Autry...
6 posted on 05/27/2005 4:16:01 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: Mike Bates

Political Correctness would be his first conquest.


7 posted on 05/27/2005 4:16:21 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

Damn, Old Alan dun moved up in the world. Last I heard he was a cop down here in Missipp. And a purtty dum one. Now he's th mayor of Fresno, Californy. Shucky Dern.


8 posted on 05/27/2005 4:35:45 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: Jim Robinson

What higher office does Mr Autry have in mind???


9 posted on 05/27/2005 4:36:52 PM PDT by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: tubebender

Autrey has MY vote. When will the politicians (with all their polls) realize some very simple numbers: 80% of the American people want these illegal immigrants to GET OUT AND STAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 05/27/2005 4:38:19 PM PDT by Ace Backwords
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To: Bar-Face; Happy2BMe
Old Alan dun moved up in the world. Last I heard he was a cop down here in Missipp.

LOL! Me too.

Though I did hear a bit about him running for office.

GOOD FOR YOU MAYOR AUTRY!

'bout time somebody in office spoke out about the d@MN elephant in the living room!

11 posted on 05/27/2005 4:44:59 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Attention *INS*: ~ EVERY year, Illegals murder more Americans than died on 9/11 ~)
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To: Happy2BMe

Really the left will not be happy till California is not an American state anymore.


12 posted on 05/27/2005 4:50:11 PM PDT by junta ("Racism" a word invented so as to allow morons access to the political debate.)
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To: Happy2BMe

PING


13 posted on 05/27/2005 4:51:27 PM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: tubebender

I don't know. Maybe he has his eye on the governership someday. He's a good man. Would like to see him move up.


14 posted on 05/27/2005 4:51:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Plus, it sets a good example. The more local and state politicos stand up like that, the more pressure will increase on those at the federal level.


15 posted on 05/27/2005 6:21:51 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Fesno Mayor Alan Autry waded into a volatile federal issue Thursday in his annual State of the City speech, calling for a two-year moratorium on immigration in order to address the "chaos now masquerading as a border."

Unbelievable, what's it going to take to make those in Washington listen?

16 posted on 05/27/2005 6:47:44 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

The illegal alien invasion from Mexico has to be by design. It is too large and too successful to have been a mistake.


17 posted on 05/27/2005 6:54:09 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
The illegal alien invasion from Mexico has to be by design.:

Something has to give sooner or later, too many communities are sinking under the weight.

18 posted on 05/27/2005 7:00:15 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Happy2BMe
The "legal" immigration levels into the USA actually should be slightly increased, and ICE should kick themselves into high gear and bend over backwards to expeditiously process all those future "legal" USA citizen wannabees.

Border jumpers, illegal aliens, whatever you want to call the imported slave class and international criminal elements, need to be deported, as of yesterday.

We have laws,just as Canada,Mexico, Australia and virtually every sovereign nation in the world has laws, regarding who and under what circumstances, is allowed to enter, work, and own property in our country.

If our government refuses to enforce those laws regarding non-citizens, I refuse to abide by the governments arbitrary "rule of law" as a citizen.

Chaos? Anarchy?
I can deal with that.
Just don't expect me to pay any more attention to arbitrary "laws" that only apply to people stupid enough to believe we are still a society governed by the rule of law via an elected, representative government.
19 posted on 05/27/2005 7:05:45 PM PDT by sarasmom
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To: sarasmom
What you just described is the way our government is supposed to work . .

"The "legal" immigration levels into the USA actually should be slightly increased, and ICE should kick themselves into high gear and bend over backwards to expeditiously process all those future "legal" USA citizen wannabees.

Border jumpers, illegal aliens, whatever you want to call the imported slave class and international criminal elements, need to be deported, as of yesterday."

20 posted on 05/27/2005 7:21:18 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
>>>>Fresno Mayor Alan Autry ....calling for a two-year moratorium on immigration in order to address the "chaos now masquerading as a border."

Following "911" many Americans, including this conservative, called for a multi-year moratorium on all immigration into the states. No one listened.

I wonder if this is a political epiphany by GovRino and Mayor "Bubba", and can either man match his rhetoric on this issue with a serious and substantive effort.

21 posted on 05/27/2005 10:00:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("God-damn, I'm the stuff men are made of!" John Wayne)
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To: Reagan Man

They won't be able to back up anything without federal support - which is not there.


22 posted on 05/27/2005 10:02:41 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

The momentum is building against illegals but if you think they are expensive now wait until we legalize them, they will all go on the dole for the maximum 5 years allowed by welfare and quit working. The best thing that can happen is amnesty gets held up in the House ans Senate and we start deporting them when we find them.


23 posted on 05/27/2005 10:06:49 PM PDT by John Lenin (There is no such thing as a church approved abortion)
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To: Mike Bates

Man, I love 'Phantom Empire!'


24 posted on 05/27/2005 10:08:07 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: John Lenin
Amnesty for 20 million illegal aliens will break the financial and social back of this nation - it can't rebound from such an event.

America: Born 1776 ~ Died: __________________

25 posted on 05/27/2005 10:09:34 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Well....

I thought Arnie recently called for a separate California border patrol. Over and above the USBP. More BS I guess.

Bottomline. PresBush should be ashamed for the weak effort by his administration in securing the US borders from illegals, terrorists and other assorted criminals. Pathetic!

26 posted on 05/27/2005 10:10:20 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("God-damn, I'm the stuff men are made of!" John Wayne)
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To: Happy2BMe

"calling for a two-year moratorium on immigration"

A two year moratorium?

So the aliens all they have to do is wait it out for two years and then they can come flooding in like a torrent.

How asinine!

Moratoriums are useless in that it does not stop aliens from setting foot and families on our soil.


27 posted on 05/27/2005 10:10:49 PM PDT by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: Reagan Man; Gipper08; MeekOneGOP; devolve; potlatch; Dubya's fan; JohnHuang2; keri; ...
Has it dawned on you that it is possible - even likely that our government cannot fix this problem even if it wanted to?

It is only around 20 million people we are talking about here, after all.

If 100% of all three of our government bodies woke up tomorrow and in one unanimous voice and vote declared the illegal aliens would be deported - WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?

Answer: Notta - nuttin' - forget it. It's too huge. There is no way for Mexico to be able to absorb that many people and no way for us to get them out of here - even if every breathing legitimate citizen and elected official in this nation was in total, harmonious agreement over it.

28 posted on 05/27/2005 10:17:33 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

29 posted on 05/27/2005 10:23:24 PM PDT by Pro-Bush (Can't afford Medical care? Thank an illegal alien.)
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To: Happy2BMe

>>There is no way for Mexico to be able to absorb that many people and no way for us to get them out of here<<

Strong disagreement coming from me! These Mexicans would be going back to Mexico in much better shape than when they left. Their personal assets would be 1000 x's greater. They now know what is required to performa days work in America and make a success of themselves. The number of Mexican businessmen in America is not a small number. Take those skills back home and apply them!


30 posted on 05/27/2005 10:25:26 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: Jim Robinson

He's a good man indeed. He's been an excellent mayor for us.


31 posted on 05/27/2005 10:27:59 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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To: B4Ranch
"Take those skills back home and apply them!"

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You forget - THEY ARE AT HOME - RIGHT HERE!

heheh . . the BP can't even keep the present numbers from coming across, let alone send 20 MILLION back.

Plus, wouldn't it take multiple decades to screen and identify that many deportees?

32 posted on 05/27/2005 10:29:40 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
>>>Has it dawned on you that it is possible - even likely that our government cannot fix this problem even if it wanted to?

NO! I don't buy into your defeatist attitude either. In conjunction with securing the borders, enforcing existing laws that punish employers who hire illegals and halting all welfare payouts to illegals, a multi-year moratorium would be ideal. If need be, the feds should seriously consider placing US military units on the borders to assist the USBP in enforcing the law. After taking these steps and stopping the flow of illegals into the US, then and only then can any guest worker program be considered and expected to operate properly. Otherwise all that is being accomplished is to perpetuate and exacerbate a serious national security problem. A problem that will continue to undermine our constitutional republic.

33 posted on 05/27/2005 10:41:42 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("God-damn, I'm the stuff men are made of!" John Wayne)
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To: Reagan Man
And you actually believe we will send 36,000 U.S. military to seal the Mexican Border.

I wish I did.

34 posted on 05/27/2005 10:43:40 PM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

>>Plus, wouldn't it take multiple decades to screen and identify that many deportees?<<

Not if a private company had the contract.


35 posted on 05/27/2005 10:44:31 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( Report every illegal alien that you meet. Call 866-347-2423, it's a FREE CALL)
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To: Happy2BMe
Whatever it takes!

Otherwise, the problem of illegal immigration will never be resolved. It will never go away. Changes to US immigration policy that occured from 1965 to 1990 has changed this great nation forever. It's a proven fact. More liberalization of US policy is directly responsible for the destruction of our nation, as it continues to undermine the very fabric of our constitutional republic. Ignoring these facts will only hasten the end. I for one, don't ever want to see that happen.

36 posted on 05/27/2005 10:55:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("God-damn, I'm the stuff men are made of!" John Wayne)
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To: Happy2BMe
They shouldn't be rounded up and deported in a massive raid to the delight of media vultures and bottom feeding attorneys - they have to be pressured out through disincentives to come here/incentives to return home. See the Krikorian Plan, which has been promoted by many of us here for a long time now.

The beauty of it is that it robs the media of convenient "martyr" material, the illegal-legal eagles of clients and saves us (the United States) billions of dollars because the aliens remove themselves at their own expense.

The critical necessity to get that ball rolling is more politicians willing to cough up their best contributors. We can pressure them to do so with our votes and, more importantly, our individually small contributions that constitute the majority of campaign funding by law.

So don't hesitate to throw a RINO on the barby this Memorial Day weekend! Just watch out for all that splattering pork fat.

37 posted on 05/27/2005 10:56:46 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Press 2 for Spanish. Please wait quietly until the nice men in green uniforms arrive.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
" So don't hesitate to throw a RINO on the barby this Memorial Day weekend! Just watch out for all that splattering pork fat."

Coals are warming up . .

38 posted on 05/28/2005 7:09:02 AM PDT by Happy2BMe ("Viva La Migra" - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: tubebender; Happy2BMe; Amerigomag; dalereed
Hey Happy! Is that Mr. Autry your Mayor? I like him!!! He's a good local elected official! I generally prefer local elected officials over state and federal. "The government that governs least, governs best" and "the government closest to the people" and things like that are far more important to people's everyday lives than all this Washington D.C. & Sacramento hocus pocus, gitcha gotcha, pitch & bitch!!!

Oh! And besides, I liked the way Autry stood right up to the goofy Governator from the get-go!!! (grin)(yeah, I know, he apologized an all that...)

39 posted on 05/28/2005 9:21:07 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
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