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1 posted on 05/18/2005 9:37:45 AM PDT by Tolik
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Very Interesting!

This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of good stuff that is worthy attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately on my page. I keep separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson, Lee Harris, David Warren, Orson Scott Card. You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about).

2 posted on 05/18/2005 9:39:03 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Tolik

Good one.


3 posted on 05/18/2005 9:48:14 AM PDT by Kay
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To: Tolik

The Bush administration, however – like Reagan’s, Roosevelt’s, Wilson’s Lincoln’s – understands that words carry weight. It is choosing them carefully. It is applying them strategically. And to the surprise of its critics, is getting results. It would be a mistake, then, not to listen.

Lots of nuggets in this.


4 posted on 05/18/2005 9:51:05 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Tolik; Naked Lunch

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5 posted on 05/18/2005 9:53:12 AM PDT by maro
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To: Tolik

bump for a later read.


7 posted on 05/18/2005 10:08:45 AM PDT by Paradox (In my heart, I will always be something of a Liberal, in my head, a Conservative. Head wins.)
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To: Tolik
The art of rhetoric, within the academy, is largely a lost art – which probably helps to explain why the academy is as often as surprised as it is to discover that words really do still have meanings – and that consequences come from using them.

As I am listening to Rush this sentence is an example of the "Limbaugh Echo Syndrome", LOL.

Great speech from a Bush hater. It seems some libs do have a brain, although not many use theirs much.

8 posted on 05/18/2005 10:17:32 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
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We are seeing more and more liberals coming to the realization that even their goal of socialism does not justify treason and that the great liberal home - New York - still has a big bullseye painted on it.

My take on the 2nd Inaugural was that it was a speech for the ages that will eventually be revered by all.
9 posted on 05/18/2005 10:28:03 AM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Tolik
Interesting

However the good Professor points in the latter half of the article are, from the beginning, the basic 101 of our response to the other side

Are these new revelations to them or just acceptance of what was already known

For example:

The simple logic of why the war was not "for oil", but the antiwar position of the "European, Axis of Weasels" was for oil, I.E the "for oil" position was to cut a deal with the dictator

That was obvious from the get go.

And if you accept that premise then the whole attack on the U.S. position for acting unilaterally and with out U.N. approval falls apart ...

The U.N. position was driven by greed and graft to the point that the U.S. was to leave its self vulnerable as to not to upset "U.N./Axis of Weasels"graft cash-flow

10 posted on 05/18/2005 10:44:13 AM PDT by tophat9000 (When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me)
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Great read from a liberal who is willing to consider alternative points of view about Bush rather than resorting to their dogma about him.

A constructive speech IMHO.


11 posted on 05/18/2005 10:45:29 AM PDT by wildbill
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bump for later


12 posted on 05/18/2005 10:50:26 AM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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Third, grand strategy requires the ability to respond rapidly to the unexpected. It acknowledges that trends can reverse themselves suddenly, that “tipping points” can occur, and that leaders must know how to exploit them. The academy loves this sort of thing when it happens on the basketball court or the hockey rink. In the classroom, though, it resists the idea: instead the emphasis is too often on theory, which promises predictability, and therefore no surprises. That’s why the academy tends to be so surprised when events like the end of the Cold War and 9/11 take place.

Interesting. One wonders whether there will be a sudden tipping point among the Arab thugocracies, or against the cutthroat Islamists. Will people suddenly have the courage to collectively say, "Enough!" or (with regard to death-cult Islamism) is what people have in the Islamic world really pretty much what they want?

13 posted on 05/18/2005 11:02:05 AM PDT by untenured
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bump


14 posted on 05/18/2005 11:22:19 AM PDT by redhead
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read later


16 posted on 05/18/2005 11:27:17 AM PDT by hobson
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Wow - this sort of article is the reason I love FR so. Many thanks for taking the trouble to post it.

No time now for a thorough critique. There are too many good points to highlight them all (when I'm on the boss's dime, at least). Yet it strikes me that the author really does have an appreciation of the art of grand strategy and the significant differences between strategist and academic, however similar the two fields would seem to be. More later after I've given it some thought.

17 posted on 05/18/2005 11:28:11 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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The author shows an amazing ability to step back and view his own profession as an outsider would. His comments about scholarship vs. leadership crystalize what a lot of us saw in President Bush versus Al, the smartest kid in the room, Gore.

Parts I really enjoyed:

He makes some rather large leaps of faith in presenting Abu Grahib abuse as a policy result and assuming the worst about Gitmo.

I would love it if all the Bush-haters would read this. Might get debate in this country to a more civilized level.

18 posted on 05/18/2005 11:28:40 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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bump 4 later


19 posted on 05/18/2005 11:39:54 AM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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Long, but good! Nice to see some intellectual honesty amongst the "intellectual" crowd!


22 posted on 05/18/2005 11:51:59 AM PDT by raivyn (I love the smell of FUMING LIBERALS in the morning, but I hate the noise. (Don't you?))
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read later


23 posted on 05/18/2005 11:56:18 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Thank you so much for the ping. I have not read such a great article in a long time.

As another poster said, this is the kind of discussion we should be having vis a vis Bush's policies, and the Grand Strategy of our nation.

Too often, and I know I'm mostly preaching to the choir here, the level of rhetoric has descended into the Bush is stupid realm. It adds nothing to the discussion.

I, too, was so moved and excited by GW's second inaugural address. This, to me, was and is, what our country is all about.

No, he is not perfect. Mistakes have been made, but he seems willing to adjust his course and keep moving towards the big prize. Freedom from terror. A worthy goal.

Pinging to those who I think will enjoy a great read, and please ping your lists.



24 posted on 05/18/2005 11:56:31 AM PDT by baseballmom
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Which raises the question of why the Clinton administration signed onto them [Kyoto] in the first place.

Come on professor, don't let your ideology blind you to this when you were doins so well.

Clinton signed onto Kyoto knowing full well it would never pass the Senate. But he didn't care. He could look like a greenie and not have to bear any of the consequences.

Deep down I think you know that Prof. Gaddis.

30 posted on 05/18/2005 12:13:30 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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Long Read Bump for Later


34 posted on 05/18/2005 12:31:00 PM PDT by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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Outstanding read. I have always respected liberals who debate with facts rather than with emotion.

Thanks for a very quotable post.

Best Regards

Sergio


35 posted on 05/18/2005 12:41:49 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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Rarely do I read such a long piece on a flatscreen, but this one held my interest until the very end. Kudos to you for sharing it with us, Tolik.


36 posted on 05/18/2005 1:33:15 PM PDT by rdb3 (One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
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Very good article, thanks for posting it.


37 posted on 05/18/2005 2:02:28 PM PDT by rattrap
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That’s why I found it so frustrating, at noon on Inauguration Day, to find that nobody in the Yale History Department had the speech on as it was being delivered

Incredible.

38 posted on 05/18/2005 2:08:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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Very good article. A thinking liberal with the guts to lay his thoughts on the table. His fellow academics must be wild.


39 posted on 05/18/2005 2:24:10 PM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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It was Lincoln who suspended the right of habeus corpus during the Civil War

I'm no great fan of Lincoln, but the Constitution explicitly provides for doing this, "when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it". Lincoln, and most of the rest of the rump United States, considered the southern states to be in Rebellion. Whether the public Safety required it, is I suppose, a separate question.

40 posted on 05/18/2005 2:41:32 PM PDT by El Gato
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The Past and Future of American Grand Strategy
[Bush critic gets it]


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


41 posted on 05/18/2005 3:13:36 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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Tolik, that's one of the best and most interesting articles I have read here in quite a while, and it's even more valuable to me because it is one I never would have found on my own. Thanks a lot for posting it. I am kind of pumped up by it, and hope it gets a lot wider exposure.


42 posted on 05/18/2005 3:33:01 PM PDT by Weirdad (A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
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Third, grand strategy requires the ability to respond rapidly to the unexpected. It acknowledges that trends can reverse themselves suddenly, that “tipping points” can occur, and that leaders must know how to exploit them.

This is, IMO, an important point. So far I think that the Bush Admin. has dealt with the major "tipping points" fairly well. The election in Iraq, the death of Arafat, the media hype over Abu Graib; etc.
His use of the word "exploit" in this excerpt makes it look like the "tipping points" will always be favorable, but some, like Abu Graib, are not, and limiting damage from the unfavorable ones is just as important as exploiting the favorable ones.

46 posted on 05/18/2005 5:14:05 PM PDT by speekinout
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he has seen the light... and the truth shall set you free!!!
47 posted on 05/18/2005 6:57:11 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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ping to read later


48 posted on 05/18/2005 11:10:27 PM PDT by stradivarius ("If a donkey brays at you, don't bray at him." - George Herbert)
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Thanks for posting...I enjoyed it...I guess there is still hope for those on the other side...


52 posted on 05/19/2005 8:11:41 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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But where, within the academy is the use of great language taught? Where would you go to learn how to make a great speech? Certainly not to political science, language, and literature departments at Yale, where as students advance they are spurred on toward ever higher levels of jargon-laden incomprehensibility.

Righteous!

53 posted on 05/19/2005 8:15:28 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("But there were false prophets also among the people . . . even denying the Lord that bought them".)
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To: Tolik

Bump for reading later.


55 posted on 05/19/2005 4:17:16 PM PDT by Amntn
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Wow, I'm so glad I'm on your ping list! What a great article. I especially liked So let me try to answer this question – why the academy finds leaders like Reagan and Bush so difficult to understand – somewhat in the spirit of Larry Summers, by tossing out a few provocations. . . . . .

.It explains a lot about leaders and why their are so many more followers than leaders in society.

56 posted on 05/19/2005 5:54:49 PM PDT by Angel
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Mark for later reading.


58 posted on 05/20/2005 3:32:53 PM PDT by Joseph_CutlerUSA (New blogspot at "http://yankeestation.blogspot.com". Mostly military and political affairs.)
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