1 posted on
05/18/2005 9:37:45 AM PDT by
Tolik
To: Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; yonif; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; Alouette; ...
Very Interesting!
This ping list is not author-specific for articles I'd like to share. Some for perfect moral clarity, some for provocative thoughts; or simply interesting articles I'd hate to miss myself. (I don't have to agree with the author 100% to feel the need to share an article.) I will try not to abuse the ping list and not to annoy you too much, but on some days there is more of good stuff that is worthy attention. You can see the list of articles I pinged to lately on my page. I keep separate PING lists for my favorite authors Victor Davis Hanson, Lee Harris, David Warren, Orson Scott Card. You are welcome in or out, just freepmail me (and note which PING list you are talking about).
2 posted on
05/18/2005 9:39:03 AM PDT by
Tolik
To: Tolik
3 posted on
05/18/2005 9:48:14 AM PDT by
Kay
To: Tolik
The Bush administration, however like Reagans, Roosevelts, Wilsons Lincolns understands that words carry weight. It is choosing them carefully. It is applying them strategically. And to the surprise of its critics, is getting results. It would be a mistake, then, not to listen.
Lots of nuggets in this.
To: Tolik; Naked Lunch
5 posted on
05/18/2005 9:53:12 AM PDT by
maro
To: Tolik
7 posted on
05/18/2005 10:08:45 AM PDT by
Paradox
(In my heart, I will always be something of a Liberal, in my head, a Conservative. Head wins.)
To: Tolik
The art of rhetoric, within the academy, is largely a lost art which probably helps to explain why the academy is as often as surprised as it is to discover that words really do still have meanings and that consequences come from using them.As I am listening to Rush this sentence is an example of the "Limbaugh Echo Syndrome", LOL.
Great speech from a Bush hater. It seems some libs do have a brain, although not many use theirs much.
8 posted on
05/18/2005 10:17:32 AM PDT by
Mister Baredog
((Minuteman at heart, couch potato in reality))
To: Tolik
We are seeing more and more liberals coming to the realization that even their goal of socialism does not justify treason and that the great liberal home - New York - still has a big bullseye painted on it.
My take on the 2nd Inaugural was that it was a speech for the ages that will eventually be revered by all.
9 posted on
05/18/2005 10:28:03 AM PDT by
Da Bilge Troll
(Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
To: Tolik
Interesting
However the good Professor points in the latter half of the article are, from the beginning, the basic 101 of our response to the other side
Are these new revelations to them or just acceptance of what was already known
For example:
The simple logic of why the war was not "for oil", but the antiwar position of the "European, Axis of Weasels" was for oil, I.E the "for oil" position was to cut a deal with the dictator
That was obvious from the get go.
And if you accept that premise then the whole attack on the U.S. position for acting unilaterally and with out U.N. approval falls apart ...
The U.N. position was driven by greed and graft to the point that the U.S. was to leave its self vulnerable as to not to upset "U.N./Axis of Weasels"graft cash-flow
10 posted on
05/18/2005 10:44:13 AM PDT by
tophat9000
(When the State ASSUMES death...It makes an ASH out of you and me)
To: Tolik
Great read from a liberal who is willing to consider alternative points of view about Bush rather than resorting to their dogma about him.
A constructive speech IMHO.
11 posted on
05/18/2005 10:45:29 AM PDT by
wildbill
12 posted on
05/18/2005 10:50:26 AM PDT by
eureka!
(It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
To: Tolik
Third, grand strategy requires the ability to respond rapidly to the unexpected. It acknowledges that trends can reverse themselves suddenly, that tipping points can occur, and that leaders must know how to exploit them. The academy loves this sort of thing when it happens on the basketball court or the hockey rink. In the classroom, though, it resists the idea: instead the emphasis is too often on theory, which promises predictability, and therefore no surprises. Thats why the academy tends to be so surprised when events like the end of the Cold War and 9/11 take place. Interesting. One wonders whether there will be a sudden tipping point among the Arab thugocracies, or against the cutthroat Islamists. Will people suddenly have the courage to collectively say, "Enough!" or (with regard to death-cult Islamism) is what people have in the Islamic world really pretty much what they want?
To: Tolik
14 posted on
05/18/2005 11:22:19 AM PDT by
redhead
To: hobson
16 posted on
05/18/2005 11:27:17 AM PDT by
hobson
To: Tolik
Wow - this sort of article is the reason I love FR so. Many thanks for taking the trouble to post it.
No time now for a thorough critique. There are too many good points to highlight them all (when I'm on the boss's dime, at least). Yet it strikes me that the author really does have an appreciation of the art of grand strategy and the significant differences between strategist and academic, however similar the two fields would seem to be. More later after I've given it some thought.
To: Tolik
The author shows an amazing ability to step back and view his own profession as an outsider would. His comments about scholarship vs. leadership crystalize what a lot of us saw in President Bush versus Al, the smartest kid in the room, Gore.
Parts I really enjoyed:
- The President is very different than the negative stereotypes about him.
- The author still doesn't like the way Saddam was taken out but doesn't think GWB lied, thinks the "it's all about oil" is crap, and ends up seeing Iraq as something a liberal should support.
He makes some rather large leaps of faith in presenting Abu Grahib abuse as a policy result and assuming the worst about Gitmo.
I would love it if all the Bush-haters would read this. Might get debate in this country to a more civilized level.
To: Tolik
To: Tolik
Long, but good! Nice to see some intellectual honesty amongst the "intellectual" crowd!
22 posted on
05/18/2005 11:51:59 AM PDT by
raivyn
(I love the smell of FUMING LIBERALS in the morning, but I hate the noise. (Don't you?))
To: Tolik
23 posted on
05/18/2005 11:56:18 AM PDT by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: Tolik; ohioWfan; DrDeb; MJY1288; Wolfstar; JohnHuang2; MeekOneGOP; Tribune7; MadIvan; Mo1; ...
Thank you so much for the ping. I have not read such a great article in a long time.
As another poster said, this is the kind of discussion we should be having vis a vis Bush's policies, and the Grand Strategy of our nation.
Too often, and I know I'm mostly preaching to the choir here, the level of rhetoric has descended into the Bush is stupid realm. It adds nothing to the discussion.
I, too, was so moved and excited by GW's second inaugural address. This, to me, was and is, what our country is all about.
No, he is not perfect. Mistakes have been made, but he seems willing to adjust his course and keep moving towards the big prize. Freedom from terror. A worthy goal.
Pinging to those who I think will enjoy a great read, and please ping your lists.
To: Tolik
Which raises the question of why the Clinton administration signed onto them [Kyoto] in the first place. Come on professor, don't let your ideology blind you to this when you were doins so well.
Clinton signed onto Kyoto knowing full well it would never pass the Senate. But he didn't care. He could look like a greenie and not have to bear any of the consequences.
Deep down I think you know that Prof. Gaddis.
30 posted on
05/18/2005 12:13:30 PM PDT by
CaptRon
(Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
To: Tolik
34 posted on
05/18/2005 12:31:00 PM PDT by
gridlock
(ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
To: Tolik
Outstanding read. I have always respected liberals who debate with facts rather than with emotion.
Thanks for a very quotable post.
Best Regards
Sergio
35 posted on
05/18/2005 12:41:49 PM PDT by
Sergio
(If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
To: Tolik
Rarely do I read such a long piece on a flatscreen, but this one held my interest until the very end. Kudos to you for sharing it with us, Tolik.

36 posted on
05/18/2005 1:33:15 PM PDT by
rdb3
(One may smile and smile and still be a villain.)
To: Tolik
Very good article, thanks for posting it.
37 posted on
05/18/2005 2:02:28 PM PDT by
rattrap
To: Tolik
Thats why I found it so frustrating, at noon on Inauguration Day, to find that nobody in the Yale History Department had the speech on as it was being deliveredIncredible.
38 posted on
05/18/2005 2:08:39 PM PDT by
Jim Noble
(Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
To: Tolik
Very good article. A thinking liberal with the guts to lay his thoughts on the table. His fellow academics must be wild.
39 posted on
05/18/2005 2:24:10 PM PDT by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: Tolik
It was Lincoln who suspended the right of habeus corpus during the Civil War I'm no great fan of Lincoln, but the Constitution explicitly provides for doing this, "when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it". Lincoln, and most of the rest of the rump United States, considered the southern states to be in Rebellion. Whether the public Safety required it, is I suppose, a separate question.
40 posted on
05/18/2005 2:41:32 PM PDT by
El Gato
To: Tolik; baseballmom; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
The Past and Future of American Grand Strategy
[Bush critic gets it] 
Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.
41 posted on
05/18/2005 3:13:36 PM PDT by
MeekOneGOP
(There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: Tolik
Tolik, that's one of the best and most interesting articles I have read here in quite a while, and it's even more valuable to me because it is one I never would have found on my own. Thanks a lot for posting it. I am kind of pumped up by it, and hope it gets a lot wider exposure.
42 posted on
05/18/2005 3:33:01 PM PDT by
Weirdad
(A Free Republic, not a "democracy" (mob rule))
To: Tolik
Third, grand strategy requires the ability to respond rapidly to the unexpected. It acknowledges that trends can reverse themselves suddenly, that tipping points can occur, and that leaders must know how to exploit them.This is, IMO, an important point. So far I think that the Bush Admin. has dealt with the major "tipping points" fairly well. The election in Iraq, the death of Arafat, the media hype over Abu Graib; etc.
His use of the word "exploit" in this excerpt makes it look like the "tipping points" will always be favorable, but some, like Abu Graib, are not, and limiting damage from the unfavorable ones is just as important as exploiting the favorable ones.
To: Tolik

he has seen the light... and the truth shall set you free!!!
47 posted on
05/18/2005 6:57:11 PM PDT by
Chode
(American Hedonist ©®)
To: Tolik
48 posted on
05/18/2005 11:10:27 PM PDT by
stradivarius
("If a donkey brays at you, don't bray at him." - George Herbert)
To: Tolik
Thanks for posting...I enjoyed it...I guess there is still hope for those on the other side...
To: Tolik
But where, within the academy is the use of great language taught? Where would you go to learn how to make a great speech? Certainly not to political science, language, and literature departments at Yale, where as students advance they are spurred on toward ever higher levels of jargon-laden incomprehensibility.Righteous!
53 posted on
05/19/2005 8:15:28 AM PDT by
PhilipFreneau
("But there were false prophets also among the people . . . even denying the Lord that bought them".)
To: Tolik
55 posted on
05/19/2005 4:17:16 PM PDT by
Amntn
To: Tolik
Wow, I'm so glad I'm on your ping list! What a great article. I especially liked
So let me try to answer this question why the academy finds leaders like Reagan and Bush so difficult to understand somewhat in the spirit of Larry Summers, by tossing out a few provocations. . . . . ..It explains a lot about leaders and why their are so many more followers than leaders in society.
56 posted on
05/19/2005 5:54:49 PM PDT by
Angel
To: Tolik
58 posted on
05/20/2005 3:32:53 PM PDT by
Joseph_CutlerUSA
(New blogspot at "http://yankeestation.blogspot.com". Mostly military and political affairs.)
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