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CA: LEGISLATIVE ALERT: SB840 -- socialized Medicine
Posted on 05/17/2005 11:21:34 PM PDT by HKMk23
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To: NormsRevenge; ambrose; goldstategop; tame; SoCalPol; Alia; HKMk23
"Farmland Loss: The Central Valley, which provides half of all fruits and vegetables to America, is the most threatened farm region in the country due to its massive population increase, according to American Farmland Trust.
In the past 20 years, over two million people have moved to the region, shrinking cropland by 500,000 acres. The valleys current population of 5.5 million is expected to grow to 12.5 million by 2040, reducing farmland by another one million to 2.5 million acres." See
http://www.fairus.org/Research/Research.cfm?ID=1563&c=9
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posted on
05/18/2005 7:24:52 AM PDT
by
JesseJane
(Is Isikoff, Eason Jordans daddy?? Turds of a feather...)
To: HKMk23; farmfriend
Bump this to the very top!
This might be good for the ping list for California, farmfriend.
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posted on
05/18/2005 8:28:45 AM PDT
by
TruthConquers
(Delenda est publius schola)
To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl
I'm sorry to have to disagree, but Arnold IS the Governor and has all the political capital as the head of CA's Republican Party who won't even allow a challenge to that now!!! Tom needs to marshall whatever capital he has into winning that Lt. Governor spot and not get tangled up in a single issue strategery at this time.
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posted on
05/18/2005 9:29:22 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
To: A CA Guy; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; FairOpinion; Amerigomag; ElkGroveDan; tubebender; ..
He won't! He won't even promise to support a made-to-order ballot measure that is focused solely on his well know adversaries... The Public Employee YoooooYuns!!!
What an abject wuss the big body builder has turned into!!! See him turn and run in terror!!! It's contemptable!!!
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posted on
05/18/2005 9:33:48 AM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
To: Alia
Hey, Alia. This doesn't surprise me. If what I'm seeing in the other comments is true, that surprises me: that the Dems aren't simply doing this, Ahnold regardless. They really think they can simply jail the goose and that'll do it.
So glad I got outta dere.
This is reason #648 why I moved out of California.
Cheers,
Beleg
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posted on
05/18/2005 10:35:45 AM PDT
by
BelegStrongbow
(I think, therefore I vote Republican)
To: JesseJane
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posted on
05/18/2005 10:45:49 AM PDT
by
tame
(Are you willing to do for the truth what leftists are willing to do for a lie?)
To: lainde
To be honest, considering the amount of tazes that we are paying in this country, there should be some kind of Government Healthcare. I don't think private healthcare should be illegal, but every other country that pays 50% of it's income in taxes garantees you a right to see a doctor ... and most of these countries have higher life expectancies and lower infant mortality rates than we do - so how bad can the care really be?
We have as high or higher incidences of malpractice here than every other first world country, so the myth that we have the "best care" really is just that. A myth. Most doctors are tools of the pharmaceutical industry.
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posted on
05/18/2005 10:50:52 AM PDT
by
Stu Cohen
(Press '1' for English)
To: SierraWasp
Ah, c'mon SW. Ya know it's just all part of the strategery!
First lower expectations, making people believe that he will accept the most leftist policies.
Then, the smallest move in the right direction demands applause.
It's #4 in the Arnie playbook.
To: A CA Guy
Arnold has to promise to veto this.
Well and good if he does, but right now we have the opportunity to speak up and try to make sure it never gets to his desk in the first place.
Bump.
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posted on
05/18/2005 11:56:23 AM PDT
by
HKMk23
(Rex regum et Dominus dominantium)
To: calcowgirl
"First lower expectations"Wull crap! I had enuffa that under Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown!!! (or was it fruitfly Brown?)
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posted on
05/18/2005 12:15:15 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(The "Heritage Oaks" in the Sierra-Nevada Conservancy are full of parasitic GovernMental mistletoe!!!)
To: HKMk23
Nice work, HKM.
I'll send some emails/letters.
To: calcowgirl
Thanks, and good on ya'!
Bump.
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posted on
05/18/2005 2:07:44 PM PDT
by
HKMk23
(Rex regum et Dominus dominantium)
To: Sir Francis Dashwood
I moved to Oregon, which is not much better, but at least I did escape the high cost of living there...
I moved from Texas to Alabama a few years ago. Alabama is in a splendid position to deal with this. Our constitution doesn't allow things like tax hikes without a vote. The Democrats have been arguing, of course, that the constitution is outdated, but so far we've held them off.
Meanwhile, taxes remain low and companies such as Toyota, Honda, Mercades-Benz, General Electric, and Boeing have manufacturing plants here.
Alabama leads the southeast in job growth - employment is expected to grow by 2.5 percent through 2006.
Eighty one percent of Alabama companies offer full-time employees medical insurance and eighty six percent offer paid vacations.
We're also attracting a lot of large retailers. For example, Saks (Saks Fifth Avenue, Parisian, etc) is one of seven Fortune 500 companies with their world headquarters located in Birmingham.
Birmingham has emerged as a huge banking center and is now the fourth largest in the country, ranked with New York, Charlotte and Chicago. Birmingham is home to four of the top fifty largest banks in the country, more than any other city outside New York.
Bottom line, it pays to keep the socialist Democrats at bay.
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posted on
05/18/2005 2:09:51 PM PDT
by
Jaysun
(No matter how hot she is, some man, somewhere, is tired of her sh*t)
To: HKMk23
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posted on
05/18/2005 2:46:30 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: HKMk23
To: calcowgirl; A CA Guy; SierraWasp; tame; JesseJane; BelegStrongbow; Alia; Carry_Okie; ...
SB840 LEGISLATIVE UPDATE -- CURRENT STATUSLink to bill info page
IN THE
SENATE the key contacts are:
Principal coauthor: Senator Ortiz
Coauthors: Senators Alquist, Cedillo, Chesbro, Escutia, Figueroa, Florez, Lowenthal, Migden, Murray, Perata, Romero, and Soto
IN THE
ASSEMBLY the key contacts are:
Principal coauthors: Assembly Members Chan, Goldberg, and Leno
Coauthors: Assembly Members Berg, Dymally, Evans, Hancock, Jones, Koretz, Laird, Levine, Lieber, Nava, Pavley, Vargas, and Yee
This bill is slated to be heard by the Senate Appropriations Committee on May 23rd; that's next Monday. The Committee webpage is
here.
Pass the word. Let's execute.
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posted on
05/18/2005 10:48:38 PM PDT
by
HKMk23
(Rex regum et Dominus dominantium)
To: HKMk23
The co-author lists contain the known members of the politburo in each chamber. The only way this won't get passed is with a veto from Arnold.
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posted on
05/18/2005 11:42:38 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: HKMk23
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posted on
05/19/2005 12:48:24 AM PDT
by
lainde
To: JesseJane
You are right. 11 Hospitals in SoCal are "bankrupt" and because of 'non-payors'. Feds were hit up by the Dem Legislature, and Feds said it was the "state's problem to solve". Ipso.. this abusive bill.
Let me remind the Good People of the US...
Californian's by a majority PASSED AND APPROVED Proposition 187 (stopping the "illegal" money raid scam at pub ed, etc.). Dems shopped a judge. The judge OVERTURNED the will of the people. And Dems in CA have stopped EVERY EFFORT to halt runaway problems. CA Dems also shot down numerous attempts by CA Repubs to HALT VOTE FRAUD. So, now Dems are proposing to punish all those currently paying medical insurance to pay for those who don't have it and for those who choose NOT TO PURCHASE medical insurance.
Oooh, can't ya just hardly wait to see how Dems are defining "below poverty level"?
Dems are trying very hard to figure out how to stop the hospitals from going backrupt. Heck.. why don't they just propose a RETROACTIVE TAX ON ALL THOSE WHO PAY MEDICAL INSURANCE. Their beloved Bill Clinton proposed a RETRO TAX.... However, they've probably already run the numbers and figured out that this new "tax" will pay for past debts in non-covered medical expenses. Think they gave those hospitals "promissory notes" to be redeemed in year whatever? I hear "election time" engines revving up...
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:26:23 AM PDT
by
Alia
To: JesseJane
Click. (and thanks for the ping). Au so-once organic "California" will become the "stem cell" "sci-fi gardening" center of the US, no doubts. And of course, the "medical communities of CA" will no doubts create extra race boxes in order to receive "grants and funds" to study the effects upon their beloved "minorities".
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posted on
05/19/2005 4:28:33 AM PDT
by
Alia
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