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Roseland cracks down on zoning laws(private property right?What private property rights?)
www.southbendtribune.com ^ | 5 16 05 | NANCY J. SULOK

Posted on 05/16/2005 11:42:20 AM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: SouthParkRepublican
A freedom loving spirited individual indeed.

(Of course I'm glad I don't live across the street from him)
21 posted on 05/16/2005 12:55:58 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin
"(Of course I'm glad I don't live across the street from him)

No kidding. The place is a friggin eyesore but I respect the fact that it is his friggin eyesore.

22 posted on 05/16/2005 1:04:46 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: longtermmemmory

Something like this

Flag Wars....Sodomites harass poor & middle class Blacks to get their homes. (pos. barf alert)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1158429/posts


23 posted on 05/16/2005 1:17:53 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: freepatriot32
Not only that, but a fallen tree blocks access to their backyard.

Go rent a chainsaw and spend some quality time in your yard. Plus, you get some firewood out of the deal!

P.J. O'Rourke once quoted his grandmother as saying, "No one is too poor to pick up their own yard."

24 posted on 05/16/2005 1:19:44 PM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: Fixit

From the Carl Dregas story and can't be said enough!

>>> What I do know is that this is why the tyrants are moving so quickly to take away our guns. Because they know in their hearts that if they continue the way they've been going, boxing Americans into smaller and smaller corners, leaving us no freedom to decide how to raise and school and discipline our kids, no freedom to purchase (or do without) the medical care we want on the open market, no freedom to withdraw $2,500 from our own bank accounts (let alone move it out of the country) without federal permission, no freedom even to arrange the dirt and trees on our own property to please ourselves ... if they keep going down this road, there are going to be a lot more Carl Dregas, <<<

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1297drega.htm


25 posted on 05/16/2005 1:21:55 PM PDT by quietolong
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To: SouthParkRepublican

seems like he needs a friend not code enforcement...


26 posted on 05/16/2005 1:45:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: freepatriot32

I REALLY (CENSORED)HATE LAWN NAZIS!!!!!!!!!!


27 posted on 05/16/2005 1:48:07 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, who's bringing the chips?)
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To: quietolong
From the Carl Dregas story and can't be said enough!

>>> What I do know is that this is why the tyrants are moving so quickly to take away our guns. Because they know in their hearts that if they continue the way they've been going, boxing Americans into smaller and smaller corners, leaving us no freedom to decide how to raise and school and discipline our kids, no freedom to purchase (or do without) the medical care we want on the open market, no freedom to withdraw $2,500 from our own bank accounts (let alone move it out of the country) without federal permission, no freedom even to arrange the dirt and trees on our own property to please ourselves ... if they keep going down this road, there are going to be a lot more Carl Dregas, <<<

http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/1297drega.htm

Agreed - zeugma

28 posted on 05/16/2005 2:05:19 PM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side...... We have cookies!)
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To: longtermmemmory
"seems like he needs a friend not code enforcement..."

I am already doing volunteer yardwork for an elderly couple next door to me. The owner of this disheveled home is in his mid-fifties and not in bad health. No reason I should go over and do work for him that he could do himself.

He's also the type who might call the cops if he found out someone was doing work on his yard without permission.

29 posted on 05/16/2005 2:08:29 PM PDT by SouthParkRepublican
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To: nathanbedford
The solution is to reduce population.

Sheesh. You haven't read THIS or THIS, now, have you?

30 posted on 05/16/2005 2:37:42 PM PDT by FreeKeys (http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4183)
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To: freepatriot32

"Zoning Czar?" "Czar" seems to be the government title of choice these days. It may seem like a small thing, but words have meaning.

As Orwell wrote, words influence the way we think about things. I'd rather not think of our Republic as tantamount to totalitarian Russian government. Unfortunately, it appears too many of our elected officials like to think of themselves that way.


31 posted on 05/16/2005 3:26:55 PM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: freepatriot32

"People like this asshalf "czar" tick me off to no end"

LOL, asshalf stuned muh beebers seriesly hugh!


32 posted on 05/16/2005 3:33:12 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (The minutemen are ONLY doing a job that our government doesn't want to do!)
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To: freepatriot32

SIMPLE SOLUTION:

Take the existing gravel area, pave it and make it, officially, a "driveway". Then park on it just as you please.

Where I live, front yard parking areas must all be paved out of consideration for groundwater contamination.


33 posted on 05/16/2005 3:43:19 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Rex regum et Dominus dominantium)
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To: HKMk23
"groundwater contamination"

So instead of any antifreeze,oil or other substances going into the ground through the gravel,they simply are washed onto the street ,down the storm sewer if any and THEN go into the ground.

All these code enforcements officers are a pain in the butt, an unneeeded expense and generally anti-freedom. But they exist because of the complainers who want to dictate how everyone else live.

34 posted on 05/16/2005 4:32:20 PM PDT by hoosierham
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To: hoosierham

Yup, you've got it.

OF course, you must bear in mind that "groundwater contamination" is only the PC reason for the ordinance. They wouldn't want to offend any of the fifteen-to-a-house-and-half-of-'em-illegal renters by implying that it's all about not having their flock of "Hereford" vehicles sprawled all over the front yard. Oh, no. Not that.


35 posted on 05/16/2005 5:27:12 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Rex regum et Dominus dominantium)
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To: FreeKeys
Have you ever heard me claim that we could not feed the teeming billions? The question, of course, is rhetorical and the answer is no. I am no Malthusian. However, the population of US has doubled in my lifetime and I do complain about the absence of parking spaces, free driving lanes, open beaches, and open spaces.

But I do not complain about intrusive government trying to regulate conflicting claims of private property vs. public use while I stand silent on the issue of population growth. If you condone such growth please do not trouble the rest of us with rantings about intrusive government because government will inevitably become intrusive as your growing tribe by its very presence circumscribes my freedom.

As a conservative, I know from the Goldwater days what it is like to fight hopeless fights. Guess what, the era of big government is not over. It is not just our growing addiction to the teat which makes conservative concepts like states rights and limited government quaint, it is a rapacious and burgeoning population whose claims for more and more cannot be resisted by resort to old conservative truisms. And so it goes with land use controls. What are you going to do about traffic problems? More government controls. Do you really think your rights to use your private property will enable you long to operate a plant with noxious effluents when mothers downstream have the vote, even if the mothers are conservatives? Do you really believe that a few thousand ranchers in Wyoming can long dictate the use of federal lands against the claims of teeming millions in the cities who have engaged lobbyists like the Sierra Club to get the feds to regulate its own lands for their benefit?

Our problem as conservatives is hopeless if we permit ourselves to be washed away by a tsunami of clamoring demands from a population literally growing out of control.


36 posted on 05/16/2005 6:12:48 PM PDT by nathanbedford (The UN was bribed and Good Men Died)
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To: FreeKeys
Here is what I had to say on this subject a few days ago in a similiar context: (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1399274/posts)

Two Visions of the Countryside Clash

Posted by nathanbedford to satchmodog9

On General/Chat 05/09/2005 2:38:47 AM EDT · 38 of 49

Disputes over land use are not limited to these vehicles.

The real problem is that the population of America has doubled in my lifetime.

So we see articles popping up on FR frequently describing conflicts arising out of conflicting demands on our limited real estate. Can we have a driving range in Suburban Va? Should we have fire roads in federal lands? Should ranchers be permitted to continue grazing stock on federal lands? Should we permit deer and even mountain lions to encroach into suburbia.

Out west they say, " a developer is someone who wants to build his cabin in the woods and a conservationist is a fella who built his cabin last year."

The clashes often smack of cultural differences. The Sierra Club is elitist and wants you nowhere near their wilderness except on its terms. Its prejudice is to favor backpackers and they fight horses and motorcycles with a righteous indignation. Alas, fox hunting is despised by the whole of the left and their media.

We will continue to see dispute after dispute as we ignore the threat to the land from increasing claims of a growing and increasingly mobile population.

Stop most immigration now.

37 posted on 05/16/2005 6:22:26 PM PDT by nathanbedford (The UN was bribed and Good Men Died)
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To: nathanbedford
The real problem is that the population of America has doubled in my lifetime.

And in mine. We must be close to the same advanced age. You write well, Nathan Bedford, but you sound sad. I'm a bit more optimistic than you. Maybe it's because there are many, many square miles of untouched land I drive through every week. Maybe it's because the electorate is actually getting smarter, in my estimation -- and the "mainstream media" is losing credibility at a faster and faster rate, especially this week. Yes, I know the era of big government is nowhere near over. But I do find things to cheer up about.

38 posted on 05/16/2005 6:33:09 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("People don't trust the press any more." -- Tony Snow)
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To: freepatriot32
I had the code nannies do the same damn thing to me in Mira Mesa (a suburb of San Diego). I wasn't driving my Porsche 914, so I left it parked in my driveway. The code nanny declared my car a "nuisance". I was given 5 days to put it in the garage or remove it from the property. The registration and smog were up to date. It was insured and drivable, yet I was harrassed for parking in my own driveway. Yet another reason I'm not a San Diego or California resident anymore.
39 posted on 05/16/2005 7:04:09 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Stellar Dendrite
asshalf stuned muh beebers seriesly hugh!

just be careful that a moose doesnt bite your sister while your beeber s are stuned

40 posted on 05/16/2005 7:37:30 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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