Sounds EXACTLY like Terri's situation.
Anyone have a picture of this woman for the gallery of spouse killers?
Posted on 05/16/2005 6:39:12 AM PDT by Former Fetus
Case Similar to Terri Schiavo's Has Wife Deciding Her Husband's Fate
by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor
May 15, 2005
Jacksonville, FL (LifeNews.com) -- A case similar to that of Terri Schiavo has a Florida woman holding her husband's fate in her hands. Schiavo's family is calling on Jacksonville resident Eliza Thomas to allow her husband to live.
Scott Thomas suffered brain injury in September of 2004 and has since been incapacitated and dependent on others.
As with Terri, Scott's wife is seeking to move him to a hospice and remove the gastric tube that provides him with food and water. Scott's mother, Pamela Patton, has petitioned the courts for guardianship of the disabled man and was awarded a temporary guardianship.
However, the guardianship will expire in June and Eliza wants to take over making Scott's medical decisions at that point.
Despite Eliza's desire to end her husband's life, Patton says her son speaks a limited vocabulary, answers yes or no questions with hand signals, and can tell basic factual information about himself such as his former school and hometown.
Patton says the cause of Scott's injury is under dispute.
Eliza claims Scott was backing up and fell over the family dog in the kitchen and hit his head, causing the disabling injuries. However, Scott has communicated to his mother that Eliza struck him and caused his current incapacitated state.
"The doctors say that his injuries are not consistent with such a fall and believe the severe head trauma was caused by a blow to the head," Patton told the Empire Journal newspaper.
Patton has approached Dr. William Hammesfahr, a world-renown neurologist who said Terri Schiavo could have been rehabilitated if she had been given proper treatment and care instead of being starved to death. She wants him to work with her son.
Terri Schiavo's father Bob Schindler hopes Eliza will change her mind and not starve Scott to death.
"I am pleading with Mrs. Thomas to please reconsider her decision to seek the removal of Scott's feeding tube and to allow him to receive the therapy and rehabilitation he needs to improve," he said. "I beg Mrs. Thomas to give her husband a chance."
Schindler said Scott would endure pain and suffering similar to Terri if he is starved.
"The suffering our daughter endured and her death over the course of nearly two weeks was horrific," he explained.
The guardianship issue will be determined at a June 3 hearing. Eliza attempted in October to move Scott to a hospice and remove his feeding tube.
Scott has reportedly indicated he does not wish to be moved or to be denied food and water.
What goes around comes around. We men should never have stood back and let Michael kill his wife. This is going to get nasty.
Well if the mother has guardianship and all is as she says, I would sure get him out of Florida before June.
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I wonder if the same arguments will be made regarding this man's quality of life, and the same assertions made that one wouldn't want to live in this condition. We shall see.
So now we're killing people that can still communicate.
It didn't take long to slide down that slippery slope.
I was behind the Schindlers 100%, but this story is even more compelling!
I do wonder at the likelihood of a man with a severe head injury recalling how he got it. The blow was from behind, too. I am NOT in favor of the starving of brain-damaged people but there is a little question in my mind as to the mother's credibility. If she makes up stories in an attempt to gain guardianship she is likely to hurt her son because all her testimony as to his responsiveness will be cast into doubt.
Sounds EXACTLY like Terri's situation.
Anyone have a picture of this woman for the gallery of spouse killers?
If someday my wife wants to end my life, I sure hope people let her do it.
I guess I should sign a Health Care Power of Attorney to make sure no one can stop her.
Why wait?
Hopefully he's being sarcastic.
You just did:') Seriously, if there was any doubt that a child might be being abused people would scream from the roof tops. It seems IMO with the disabled though that it is unimaginable to many, including judges that a spouse could have anything but the purerest of intentions. I know nothing about this case and will follow but it's like a "move along, nothing to see here" attitude developing in our country towards the disabled..
From some reason, the following didn't post with my comment:
"Scott has reportedly indicated he does not wish to be moved or to be denied food and water."
What is it with Florida?
Ping!
This will barely be a blip on the national radar. It's just the beginning. Pretty soon, we won't even see e-mails. They'll just happen unbeknownst to the outside world.
God and only God can give and take life. I am astounded at your post here.
Don't bet on it.
My opinion only here, (some people have become quite irritated with me).
I believe Florida is a battleground where Satan is waging war against Christ and the precepts of the Church. It is just a microcosm of what we might expect throughout the U. S. in the future. (I am not being a doomsdayer -- just my own observation.)
Prayer can overcome all.
Yes, it'll actually happen at His predetermined time.
Despite Eliza's desire to end her husband's life, Patton says her son speaks a limited vocabulary, answers yes or no questions with hand signals, and can tell basic factual information about himself such as his former school and hometown.
Not similar at all, but don't let facts get in your way.
"The doctors say that his injuries are not consistent with such a fall and believe the severe head trauma was caused by a blow to the head," Patton told the Empire Journal newspaper.
Well there you go. Facts don't matter to the Empire Journal. Of course also consider that the person in question has been in this condition for less than a year versus 15 years and a much better condition at that. But take the Enquirer's Empire Journal's word for it and run with that.
I'm totally burned out on this topic.
bump
Why are all these cases in Florida???
In 1981, a horse I was leading was spooked by the storm door that my aunt had just slammed.
She told my parents that I was -riding- the horse and it threw me.
[the horse was unbroken, had no bridle or saddle and we were near a highway. How likely is it that a very experienced/conscientious rider would have gotten on the horse given all those reasons not to?]
That lie was repeated to the point that -everyone- believes I was ~thrown~ from the horse when in reality, my aunt knows the truth.
She covered her @ss because she knew my father would've gone berserk.
Because "most" head trauma patients don't recall their accidents, whatever I said was disregarded.
But I DO remember everything, right up to hearing the door slam and the conversation that I'd had with my grandmother moments before.
My dad had a head injury when a speeding maniac landed her car upside down on his Blazer on a back country road.
He remembers nothing of it.
He knows where he was and why he was there only because others told him where he'd been headed that day.
There are exceptions to every rule.
This man may well be one, as am I.
I think this stuff has been happening all along, and it just caught national attention now.
So, hopefully the reverse will happen as a result: We'll stop people from doing this.
Then you need to find a way to rekindle that fire, friend. This is one more battle in a long war.
So, what really happened to you?
Speaking of national attention, could someone provide a link to a known news source? I can't believe they would ignore it--it's good dirty laundry for them..
Sometimes you do get tired though.
It got nasty when the United States of America made it legal
to kill 40 Million + of its youngest and most helpless pre born citizens since Roe V Wade
God did not sleep through that...and He is not sleeping through this either...
As Israel was judged so will America...
Its no accident the borders are wide open and illegal invaders are pouring in or that Muslims are
building mosques and Islamic Centers and training aka summer camps accross our land...or that the Chinese now control the Panama Canal and have the largest container port and cargo airport just off our shores..all with the blessing of our so called leaders...
Welcome to the Alamo..only there is no Sam Houston waiting in the wings this time..in fact quite the contrary
What did we expect..God will not be mocked...
imo
1) I did not make up the title
2) the cases are similar, i.e. a brain-damaged person and a spouse requesting removal of feeding tube and death by dehydration
3) the cases are not the same , as you point out, there are differences between both cases
4) What's your point? are you defending involuntary euthanasia?
Pardon me?
I just wrote what really happened.
I must not understand what it is that you're asking.
I just don't see it as all that important.
It's not time, yet.
If the time comes, we'll know it. Meanwhile, we're married -- we are one -- until death do us part. I trust her completely. God gave me a godly woman 16 years ago.
No, I read your post several times, and you kept the story vague. You didn't really come out and say what happened. But, that's OK. I realize that maybe you don't want to come out and say it. Sorry, I didn't mean to intrude.
That's right. We unleashed a 'spirit of death' across this nation with the Schiavo case. We will see more and more death in the form of suicides, murders, and things like this. Our country needs to be prayed for! MERCY is needed from God to save us against this culture of death.
I can't find the story anywhere else except on activist sites. But that doesn't mean it's not true. The media can't report on every single story, so they pick and choose.
Maybe someone can get FOX to cover it...?
Similar?---so Eliza Thomas is living with another man and asking a judge to order that her current husband be deprived of food and water even without a tube, and money has been provided for his care, but Eliza is using up that money on lawyers to get her first husband terminated?
As I was leaving my grandmother's driveway, leading the horse, my aunt swung open the front door of the house and shouted "You be careful around that horse!".
Then she let go of the storm door to go back in the house.
The arm on that particular heavy metal storm no longer worked and the door didn't gradually "whoosh" shut like it was supposed to do.
It always SLAMMED shut with the noise of cannons going off.
[the door was at the end of a long center hallway and the hallway acted like an amplifier. you had to hear it yourself to really appreciate how loud the slam was]
The noise and the concussion caused the horse spook, jump sideways away from the noise source whereupon he knocked me down onto the pavement and then ran over me.
The aunt first called an ambulance and then my mom and the years of the "riding lie" commenced.
After a short amount of time, the lie began to be more "embellished", as in "I think the guinea fowl came out of the flower bed and attacked the horse". [etc etc etc]
Sorry to have been so vague.
The point is, while I was in a coma, my aunt had an 11 day head head-start in cementing the "facts" into place.
Nothing I said after I awoke ever convinced my parents that the event was anything other than what she described.
People often do amazing and awful things to keep themselves out of trouble, even if it destroys another preson's life or relationship with their family.
If the guy says she hit him, I'd believe him, simply because I "been there".
It's okay if it's legit. This doesn't sound legit to me. She may have actually done the deed that got him there. It does need investigating thoroughly.
Don't bet on it. The new 'conservatism' uses God (and I mean uses) as yet another reason we should turn over our lives, our prosperity, and our freedoms to the Almighty State. The 536 idiots in Washington apparently know what's best for us anyway...Centralization of the state is good. Centralization of the state is right. It's sickening to see this is what has become of the conservative movement.
Can't wait to see the hospitals that will have to be built to keep millions of inert bodies alive, all in the name of 'pro-life' (which it really won't be).
I guess someone could infer the horse kicked you in the head.
I agree with you. Florida has opened itself up for demonic attack and now you see SO many kidnappings, murders, etc. A spirit of death has entered and we CAN pray against it. If we don't, the entire country will have this unleashed against it.
I've sent a tip to Fox, CNN and Drudge.
That's just it; I wouldn't want anyone's investigation to stand in the way. The worst that could happen is that I pass on earlier than the judicial branch or some do-gooders (e.g parents) would like.
At any rate, God is sovereign. If it's time for me to go, I'll go; if not, I won't. The same holds true for everyone, even Terri Schiavo.
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