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U.S. Judge Rejects Nebraska Gay-Marriage Ban
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| 5/12/05
| Kevin O'Hanlon
Posted on 05/12/2005 3:30:21 PM PDT by Crackingham
A federal judge Thursday struck down Nebraska's ban on gay marriage, saying the measure interferes not only with the rights of gay couples but also with those of foster parents, adopted children and people in a host of other living arrangements. The constitutional amendment, which defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman, was passed overwhelmingly by the voters in November 2000.
U.S. District Judge Joseph Bataillon said the ban "imposes significant burdens on both the expressive and intimate associational rights" of gays "and creates a significant barrier to the plaintiffs' right to petition or to participate in the political process."
Bataillon said the ban beyond "goes far beyond merely defining marriage as between a man and a woman."
The judge said the "broad proscriptions could also interfere with or prevent arrangements between potential adoptive or foster parents and children, related persons living together, and people sharing custody of children as well as gay individuals."
Forty states have laws barring same-sex marriages, but Nebraska's ban is the only one that prevented homosexuals who work for the state or its university system from sharing health insurance and other benefits with their partners.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Nebraska
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To: Crackingham
Did I read this right?
A judge was able to overturn a state constitutional ammendment?
How on Earth is that even possible?
To: Crackingham
That's the way, judge! Let these peons know that you
Annointed types will makes these decisions for us. Democracy be damned!
I do believe the tree of Liberty grows thirsty...
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:34:18 PM PDT
by
FormerLib
(Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
To: Crackingham
expressive and intimate associational rights
?????????????
More made up rights.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:34:25 PM PDT
by
visualops
(Leftists are lunatics.)
To: Crackingham
Nebraska's ban is the only one that prevented homosexuals who work for the state or its university system from sharing health insurance and other benefits with their partners.Sounds like that was the straw the broke the judges back.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:34:32 PM PDT
by
prairiebreeze
(Hillary's Chappaquiddick. Check it out at: www.Hillcap.org)
To: Crackingham
Bataillon, Joseph F.
Born 1949 in Omaha, NE
Federal Judicial Service:
U. S. District Court, District of Nebraska
Nominated by William J. Clinton on January 7, 1997, to a seat vacated by Lyle E. Strom; Confirmed by the Senate on September 11, 1997, and received commission on September 18, 1997.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:34:50 PM PDT
by
So Cal Rocket
(Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
To: PittsburghAfterDark
passed overwhelmingly by the voters
Voters, shmoters, who cares what the people want.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:35:42 PM PDT
by
visualops
(Leftists are lunatics.)
To: So Cal Rocket
We are getting our EIGHT LONG YEARS OF CLINTON right back at us, alright! On the installment plan!
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:37:40 PM PDT
by
AmericanInTokyo
(**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
To: PittsburghAfterDark
"A judge was able to overturn a state constitutional ammendment? How on Earth is that even possible?"
In theory, only when the US Constitution forbids the state action --- for example, the right under some states constitutions to own slaves (I kid not).
In practice, whenever the little pagan dictators in robes say.
To: Crackingham
Yep. Apparently, you CAN ban gay marriage - but it must have no real teeth. That's how this liberal federal judge read it in striking down Nebraska's same sex marriage state constitutional ban.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:37:49 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Crackingham
Seems like the good people of Nebraska need to get on the band wagon to stop the filibuster and start ringing the phones off the off of their Democratic Senator.
Basically, what the filibuster in the US Senate is trying to do is keep more stupid judges like this in office or put them in office.
Why won't the people of Nebraska take action against their Senator about the filibuster?
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:38:18 PM PDT
by
topher
(John 5:58 + Exodus 21:22 +Jer 1:5 + Gen 9:6 +John 14:6 + Rev 12:1-17)
To: PittsburghAfterDark
It isn't. But these tyrants think that they can. We must stop them!
To: Crackingham
I guess that voting thing is just for show these days.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:41:18 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Anyone who thinks we believe Hillary on any issue is truly a moron.)
To: Crackingham
Another dictator in black robes. Another POS.
To: prairiebreeze
Nebraska's ban is the only one that prevented homosexuals who work for the state or its university system from sharing health insurance and other benefits with their partners.Sounds like that was the straw the broke the judges back.
A number of other state's are similarly afflicted. Quite predictable. What the law is aiming to do is create two labels, "marriage" and "civil union," where eventually both have substantially the same rights and priviliges and legal status. Opposite sex? Married. Same sex? Civil Unioned. "But they aren't married!"
Nebraska - Passed 70-30%
"Marriage ; same-sex relationships not valid or recognized. Only marriage between a man and a woman shall be valid or recognized in Nebraska. The uniting of two persons of the same sex in a civil union, domestic partnership, or other similar same-sex relationship shall not be valid or recognized in Nebraska." (Nebraska Constitution Article I, section 29)http://www.alliancealert.org/aa2004/2004_11_03.htm
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:44:15 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Crackingham
And the libs wonder why there needs to be a constitutional amendment. All the supporters of it said that this is exactly what was going to happen.
To: Crackingham
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:47:38 PM PDT
by
sdpatriot
(remember waco and ruby ridge)
To: Crackingham
What part of the 10th amendment does this idiot not understand?
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:47:42 PM PDT
by
rwilson99
(South Park (R)
To: MeanWestTexan
In theory, only when the US Constitution forbids the state action --- for example, the right under some states constitutions to own slaves (I kid not). I don't see this judge striking down anti-gun laws that violate the 2nd amendment. Pretty selective.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:47:51 PM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Crackingham
Looks like Nebraska has it's very own "9th Circus Court". I think all these judges have evolved from the same infected gene pool.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:48:05 PM PDT
by
BigFinn
To: PittsburghAfterDark
>> A judge was able to overturn a state constitutional amendment?
You should come to Massachusetts, but here they prevent them from ever appearing on the ballot beforehand...
"Law" is whatever the "judge" says in contemporary America...
"You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad." - Huxley
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:48:43 PM PDT
by
mmercier
To: visualops
No, no no. It's in the Constitution. You just need to look under the emanation, right next to the penumbra over there...
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:50:56 PM PDT
by
Luddite Patent Counsel
("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
To: topher
Seems like the good people of Nebraska need to get on the band wagon to stop the filibuster and start ringing the phones off the off of their Democratic Senator. I'd like to see the good people of all of the USA climb on the backs of their Reps and Senators and get some of these judges impeached. They (Congress-critters) have the unqualified constitutional power of impeachment. Sure, there will be arguments about whether the judges have violated "good conduct." But it doesn't make sense to give Congress a limited impeachment power where "good conduct" means "not breaking the law" - it can already cause judges to be arrested for breaking the law ;-)
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:51:24 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: wk4bush2004
"......these tyrants think that they can. We must stop them!"
If they are not stopped they WILL, one day, go to far. Then, what happens will be out of anyones control. Last election the SCOFLA went too far but was struck down.
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posted on
05/12/2005 3:59:11 PM PDT
by
TalBlack
To: Crackingham
This is why we need a US Constitutional Amendment. A sad state of affairs.
To: Crackingham
I read about this coming months ago. A federal judge would overturn Nebraska's State Ammendment.
Looks like this is the one that will go to the U.S. Supreme Court. Do you wonder what they will do? Not me. Kill the Fillibuster, NOW!
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:08:36 PM PDT
by
BlurBlog
(The web is a town meeting for the whole world.)
To: visualops
You can associate with whomever you wish - you just can't marry them. You can't marry your parent or sibling or first cousin or your dog. But it doesn't matter. Judges rule America.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:08:48 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
To: AmericanInTokyo
"We are getting our EIGHT LONG YEARS OF CLINTON right back at us, alright! On the installment plan!"
The scriptures state..."If a Nation elects a wicked leader(clinton) it reap much wicked fruit!" Yep, God did warn us...:(
But God goes on farther and says, "A Nation that elects a righteous leader(Bush) reaps much good fruit!" I believe the latter will bare fruit, only to have the BEAST of NY get credit for it in the long run if she is elected prez!! :(
To: PittsburghAfterDark
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:11:13 PM PDT
by
weegee
(WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
To: Crackingham
If the traditional American marriage of man and woman needs the protection of the US government, then it is already dead. Killed by feminism and every person who embraced it. We are now only protecting the memory of what was.
The homosexuals are never far behind the feminists in their assault on everything American. Neither are their communist attack dogs the ACLU. These vultures always work together to the destruction of all that is godly. We are seeing the very same thing happening in the Christian churches now.
This is all the result of decades of compromising with evil. All that is left now is tradition and the law.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:12:34 PM PDT
by
Search4Truth
(When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
To: Crackingham
A federal judge Thursday struck down Nebraska's ban on gay marriage, saying the measure interferes not only with the rights of gay couples but also with those of foster parents, adopted children and people in a host of other living arrangements Not f^&king possible. I hate judges now ... these idiots are destroying our country and wiping out the respect for the law that used to be so prevalent in the United States.
To: PittsburghAfterDark
A judge was able to overturn a state constitutional ammendment? How on Earth is that even possible?
I don't know. It boggles the mind. Since the idea of "balance of powers" is now just a theory or ideal, and the judicial branch is most powerful, why do we have the people vote on anything or a legislature? I guess we should just have judges look at proposed laws and make rulings, up or down. End of discussion.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:20:47 PM PDT
by
GLDNGUN
To: So Cal Rocket
Confirmed by the Senate on September 11, 1997And the Senate was controlled by...?
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:22:14 PM PDT
by
inquest
(FTAA delenda est)
To: Crackingham
I guess it really doesn't matter what the voters want. They're just stupid, anyway, right?. Don't know what's good for them. Let the little tyrants in black robes sitting on a bench tell the masses what laws they should or should not have.
Impeach these judges that legislate from their high and mighty benches. I'm sick of them.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:23:32 PM PDT
by
Luna
(Lobbing the Holy Hand Grenade at Liberalism)
To: Crackingham
and creates a significant barrier to the plaintiffs' right to petition or to participate in the political process." What about our right to participate? We haven't been able to participate unless we get these amendments because the courts are deciding these issues. So that's where we stand. Gays have more rights than everyone else.
I hate these activist judges.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:44:17 PM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: visualops
expressive and intimate associational rightsEven if they were "rights," why does that obligate me to provide insurance for them -- if I were a resident of Nebraska. I am resenting these activist judges BIG TIME!
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:45:23 PM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: PittsburghAfterDark
Judges in this country are trying to take on the powers of dictators and disregard laws and the Constitution at their whim.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:46:08 PM PDT
by
Dante3
To: Cboldt
What gets me too is the perversity-diversity crew always says "you don't need an amendment because the law already bans it..." So if the AMENDMENT is unconstitutional, the judge would also find the laws unconstituitonal. They want to trap us. We can't win.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:48:58 PM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: goldstategop
Yep. Apparently, you CAN ban gay marriage - but it must have no real teeth. That's how this liberal federal judge read it in striking down Nebraska's same sex marriage state constitutional ban. So we worry about their right to use the legislative process while we ban our use of same. All roads lead the same direction -- gay marriage or its equivalent. No choice.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:50:55 PM PDT
by
The Ghost of FReepers Past
(Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Of course. "Rights" invented out whole cloth. For the record the judge is dead wrong about homosexuals' rights being abridged or denied. All the amendment simply said was same sex marriage or civil unions would not have legal status in Nebraska law. It did not prevent same sex couples from living together or investing or saving for the future. DUH.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:51:16 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
Exactly. The aim is to prevent the people from taking a social direction liberals wish to block.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:52:42 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Always Right
This is why we need a US Constitutional Amendment. A sad state of affairs. Language is a flexible thing. A Constitutional amendment only stalls the process while a new label is developed, and maybe until about one generation passes.
Campaign Finance Reform law prohibits some organizations from buying air time for politically-motivated advocay ads, yet SCOTUS ruled no infringement on the 1st Amendment.
Or slightly more arcane and less weighty, the VI Amendment recites "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed ..." but see Duncan v. Louisiana, 391 US 145 (1968) ,which holds there is no right to a jury trial if the maximum penalty is less than 6 months imprisonment.
It is doubtless true that there is a category of petty crimes or offenses which is not subject to the Sixth Amendment jury trial provision and should not be subject to the Fourteenth Amendment jury trial requirement here applied to the States. Crimes carrying possible penalties up to six months do not require a jury trial if they otherwise qualify as petty offenses.
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posted on
05/12/2005 4:57:14 PM PDT
by
Cboldt
To: Cboldt
Don't forget international jurisprudence, increasingly adopted by U.S Courts, that's tilted to the Left. Expect rulings from liberal judges sanctioning every wish list item of the liberal agenda by means of interpreting constitutional law as a "living tree" that grows new branches of law to fit a given era's new needs.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
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posted on
05/12/2005 5:02:01 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: Always Right
"This is why we need a US Constitutional Amendment."
Absolutely. Anyone who still thinks it isn't necessary is sticking his head in the sand.
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posted on
05/12/2005 5:07:38 PM PDT
by
AuH2ORepublican
(Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
To: Crackingham
...U.S. District Judge Joseph Bataillon struck down Thursday Nebraska's constitutional provision prohibiting gay marriage or civil unions....
Hey, that's great. Thanks Judge. By the way, you're retired.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378491/posts From the article:
"In 1802, the Jeffersonians, faced with courts deliberately packed by the Federalists, passed the Judiciary Act of 1802, which abolished over half of all the sitting federal circuit judges. The act didnt impeach them; it simply said their jobs didnt exist. They wouldnt be paid, so they shouldnt bother to show up. The judges were deeply offended. They promptly went to court, and the remaining federal judges essentially said, if we overrule the Congress, theyre going to abolish our jobs".
What we need to do does not require an amendment to the Constituion. It requires our Congress to act as they once did when faced with a hostile judiciary. No messy time consuming impeachments are needed. Just get rid of a few of them, starting with the two clowns at the Ninth Circus (pedge of allegiance case) an maybe a few dozen more, like this Clintoon appointee.
If that doesn't get their attention, then liquidate the positions of a bunch more and keep it up until they either get the message or are all filling out applications at McDonalds.
planekT
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posted on
05/12/2005 5:14:23 PM PDT
by
planekT
(Go DeLay, Go!)
To: AuH2ORepublican
Absolutely. Anyone who still thinks it isn't necessary is sticking his head in the sand. Yep, you look pretty stupid when you call it a state issue while the federal courts are turning over the state's laws.
To: Cboldt
Campaign Finance Reform law prohibits some organizations from buying air time for politically-motivated advocay ads, yet SCOTUS ruled no infringement on the 1st Amendment. I am still shocked over that ruling. I figured old ACLUer Ginsburg was a sure thing to come over to the right side. Most surpised I've ever been over a ruling.
To: Crackingham
Neither Google nor Yahoo News lists this as a top story. I suspect it will be back-paged (and left unmentioned on network news) in the hope that nobody will notice a federal judge has put down the people again.
To: Crackingham
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posted on
05/12/2005 5:25:16 PM PDT
by
XR7
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