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'Thanks for not shooting my son'
HoustonChronicle.com ^ | May 7, 2005, 11:18PM | RICK CASEY

Posted on 05/08/2005 5:48:09 AM PDT by rw4site

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To: rw4site
MR(S)RICK CASEY
61 posted on 05/08/2005 7:54:46 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (If you want to change government support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
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To: Krankor
Are you saying he should be shot dead simply because there are other offenders out there who are violent?

I see others have kind of filled in the blank spots I left in my reply.

I'll rephrase your question into my own words: "Are you saying he should be shot dead simply because he's in my house, uninvited, in the middle of the night, and apparently in a drug induced haze?" YES!!! We'll figure out the rest after the funeral.

The homeowner doesn't have an obligation to kill him, but as a general rule he would be doing society a favor by pulling the trigger. If I had the money, I would establish some sort of award for those howmowners who kill intruders, thereby making the rest of us safer.

62 posted on 05/08/2005 8:07:44 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Here's a prediction to remember: within ten years, new technology will show that common viruses and other pathogens have a major role in causing brain lesions that trigger behavioral and character problems, including criminality. When that happens, there will be a radical rethinking of criminal law and sentencing -- but we will still have to lock up criminals and use force against them because, even if their conduct is seen as a disease, we still have to protect ourselves against them. Sympathy and moral condemnation of criminals is relevant to the political psychology of criminal justice but irrelevant to policy choices and personal defense decisions.


63 posted on 05/08/2005 8:09:48 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: norton

Thanks =-)


64 posted on 05/08/2005 8:32:45 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (This tagline brought to you by Islam. Islam, only the best of the 12th century for you and yours.)
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To: Krankor
Again, I was referring to this post. The poster is speaking "after the fact". He is proposing that non-violent criminals should be executed simply because they may someday turn violent.

Nope, wrong. He was not proposing anyone should be executed. He was proposing that people who commit the violent crime of breaking into a house uninvited should not be given the benefit of the doubt. They should be assumed to be dangerous, armed or not and if they refuse to comply with a request to halt and/or surrender to the home owner then the home owner has the right to kill them if he feels his life is in danger.

If you break into someone's home you are NOT non violent but very violent indeed and if you end up dead you have no one but yourself to blame.

65 posted on 05/08/2005 8:54:55 AM PDT by calex59
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To: rw4site
"We're middle-class white American people trying to make it in the world," said Mrs. Asaf.

"I told him Joey's part Hispanic," she said. "Joey got angry. They wouldn't let him in after that."

Well, which is it?
66 posted on 05/08/2005 8:57:04 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I am at Dr. Venture's lab to right that which is wrong and to repair the torn curtain of time itself)
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To: sgtbono2002

"I dont even want to get into what they do on their breasts and other private parts."

Oh please do! :-)


67 posted on 05/08/2005 9:11:48 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: OXENinFLA
He didn't appear armed. I decided to act out of my anger, not out of my fear.

"Who are you and what are you doing in here?" I yelled. Then I called to my wife: "Kristen! Get the gun and call the police!"

I was grateful she didn't yell back: "What gun?"

Of course, now everyone knows you are defenseless. What is your address, again? I imagine it can be found on the police report.

68 posted on 05/08/2005 9:18:22 AM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: Krankor
Apparently, the young man has not been involved in any violent crime. Are you saying he should be shot dead simply because there are other offenders out there who are violent?

What do you mean "not involved in any violent crime?".

The perp just violently broke through the reporter's front door. Then he left a trail of HIV infected blood inside the house.

While his mother may be grateful that the homeowner did not shoot him, the homeowner has dodged his responsibilities to the rest of us...

69 posted on 05/08/2005 9:24:08 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: rw4site

Minor delay in the process.


70 posted on 05/08/2005 9:33:29 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Krankor

The "How cruel you are..." was a bit tongue in cheek... Truthful, but tongue in cheek... Also, the poster is absolutely correct. If this guy is in YOUR home, coming up YOUR steps with the possible intent to harm YOUR family, then you have every reason to empty YOUR gun into him, call the police on YOUR phone and clean up afterwards with YOUR mop.... Then go to sleep in YOUR bed, nite nite....

With that scenario there is no "after the fact".... Not to bring up your tremendous longevity on this forum, but with a whole 1 DAY, you seem to want to get a rise out of the people here. If that is not your intent, my apologies for infering it... If it is, enjoy your short visit...


71 posted on 05/08/2005 9:34:24 AM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: Hand em their arse
I just don't believe that criminals who may one day become violent should be executed. I didn't think this would get a rise out of people. I apologize for this being my first day. Should I have waited a month after registering to post?
72 posted on 05/08/2005 9:52:28 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: rw4site

The punk is lucky. Many Texans would have put his lights out forever.


73 posted on 05/08/2005 9:55:35 AM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: Krankor

"Should I have waited a month after registering to post?"


Well, standard procedure is 6 months, but we'll let it go....... just kidding : ) I guess my point is, how do you know? How do you know that when standing there, eye to eye with this guy, he won't get violent? I agree with you that if someone who is NOW in prison on let's say, robbery is about to be released after serving their time... should they bbe xecuted? Of course not, but who the hell knows at that exact time, when this reporter is facing this intruder at the bottom of his stairs, that he won't be violent?

That's my point...



74 posted on 05/08/2005 9:59:13 AM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: cpdiii

Ok: Just for you. How about having hot and cold tattooed over the nipple. Or maybe "Property of Jake tattooed over the vagina. How about rings thru the vulva and nipples, or thru the penis. Sex organs arent made for costume jewelry.

Remember "You asked for it"


75 posted on 05/08/2005 12:13:15 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: OXENinFLA

I can't believe she wanted to do that to her child! (Actually I can, since so many parents seem intent on hurting their kids in all sorts of ways.)


76 posted on 05/08/2005 12:15:01 PM PDT by LPStar
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To: Balding_Eagle; Krankor
The homeowner doesn't have an obligation to kill him, but as a general rule he would be doing society a favor by pulling the trigger.

Not to mention that if the homeowner only wounds the perp. he's guaranteed to be put through YEARS of lawsuits by the perp., now the "victim", because he was shot.

It's much easier if the cops only have one side of the story when they write up their report.

Two to the chest, one to the head. (And packing +P hollow points might be a good idea too.)

77 posted on 05/08/2005 4:15:16 PM PDT by OXENinFLA ("And that [Atomic] bomb is a filibuster" ~~~ Sen. Lieberman 1-4-95)
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To: Krankor

There's no "may" about it. He already became violent when he broke down the homeowner's door.


78 posted on 05/08/2005 4:26:03 PM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: rw4site; Dog Gone

Rick Casey is a political writer(often of fiction) for the Houston Chronicle. Aka their Robert Fisk.

And don't expect such forgiveness from him if Tom DeLay sneezes, so forget about the "Thanks for not shooting my rep" letters.


79 posted on 05/08/2005 4:42:48 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I read his column, or at least most of it, in this morning's print edition. My tolerance for gagging early on a Sunday morning is limited.

His writing is neither clever nor insightful, even given allowances for his bleeding heart liberal focus on life. His only saving grace is that he isn't terribly abrasive.

80 posted on 05/08/2005 4:49:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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