Thank you, Holy Father, for saying "yes"!
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Posted on 05/08/2005 1:26:32 AM PDT by kingattax
Responding to a directive from the Vatican, Archbishop Harry Flynn has advised all parishes in the Archdiocese of St. Paul and Minneapolis to deny communion to anyone wearing a rainbow-colored sash.
For the past four years, supporters of the Rainbow Sash Alliance USA -- a group of Catholics who are active in the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered community -- have worn the sashes to receive communion at the St. Paul Cathedral on Pentecost Sunday, the anniversary date of the group's founding in 1998.
Last year the service was disrupted when a group of 40 laymen protested the activists receiving communion by kneeling in the aisles in an attempt to block the path to the altar.
The sashes are worn as a symbol of celebration of God-given sexuality, according to Brian McNeill, an organizer of the alliance, who lives in Minneapolis. He said the sashes also represent an invitation to the church to open dialogue on the issue of human sexuality.
As he has in the past, McNeill wrote to Flynn in early April to advise him of the group's intended presence at the Pentecost service on May 15.
In a reply sent Monday, Flynn told McNeill that he had received a directive from the Vatican declaring that wearing the sash during communion is unacceptable.
Flynn said the sash has increasingly been perceived as a protest against church teaching, and asked that group members remove their sashes before receiving communion.
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Let's hope the new pope puts an END to this cr*p straight away.
JPII, for all that he was loved, really let a lot of this stuff get out of control.
This new Pope is kicking butt!
Arrrrgggghhhhh, we almost missed this part:
"McNeill said. "The church is saying it only wants closeted gay people going to communion. That's troubling to me as a gay man. I think God would want me to be proud of who she created me to be."
"McNeill said"
Will no one rid me of this troublesome...
Wait a minute; that didn't work out too well last time, did it?
"Wait a minute; that didn't work out too well last time, did it?"
Oh please, let's try it again, and see what happens!
"As a Gay Man and a Gay Journalist"
-Doug Dangger Bump!
Uhhhh ... regardless of one's opinion on homosexuality, this argument makes no logical sense. Do we celebrate God-given schizophrenia? God-given cancer? Or irrelvancies such as God-given plastic? God-given freckles?
Hey wait a minute, I got a lot of sins, but I'm not a homsexual. I just must state that for the permanent record.
It is provocation - remember the movie The Exorcist?
This is coming face to face with evil and the Church needs to stand strong.
ya know adam and eve. (male and a female...go fig..)
begain the bible and basically introduces the really neat concept.
FREE WILL
god does not make one a bank robber or a gay.
A persons sins are their own, and they must face them and there consiquences.
Isnt it cute how one part of society not only wears there sins openly...but then labels you a hatemogger for not accepting there sins as the lords will.
btw are there sashes for other sins?
maybe ted kennady could wear a nice glutton sash to communion...ya know with lil piggys on it.
clinton with a forked tongue sash...ok clinton would have a closet full of diff sashes.
and what "Sin Sash" goes with Hillery's hair style?
flame on!
Removing a sash isn't enough, they must cease thier sinful ways.
Communion should be administered to all those who ask it reasonably, excluding, at least until they make sufficient reparation, public sinners and such as those who lead openly scandalous lives. So, too, it is not to be given to those likely to treat it with irreverence.
It is as impossible for the soul in the state of mortal sin to receive this Heavenly Bread with profit, as it is for a corpse to assimilate food and drink.
It is for this very reason that St. Paul (I Cor., xi, 28) demands that rigorous "self-examination", in order to avoid the heinous offense of being guilty of the Body and the Blood of the Lord by "eating and drinking unworthily".
Confessing and repenting sin (and meaning it) should precede communion.
Actually, you are supposed to dress modestly, be humble when receiving communion, not use it as an opportunity to stage a protest. The whole act of communion is lost on those people, it does them no good at all.
i agree
Its amazing to me that someone could wear a giant "I am a big fat sinner, and will continue to be" sash to church, much less communion!
its a giant insult to the church.
in effect telling the church to accept my sin as...not a sin.
sheesh
Contrary to the leftist newly revised version of History, that depicts Abe Lincoln as a closeted Homosexual..
I am fond of pointing out that Abe Lincoln was once asked about the issue of Gays and should they be allowed to "marry".
Lincoln said: "If you count a dogs tail as a "leg"...
How many legs does the dog have?
When one of the local members of the press posited;
"Five Legs?
Lincoln curlty said: "No asshat, a Dog only has 4 legs, because a "Tail" isn't a leg, no matter HOW persistant
the uppity gays may insist that it is!
Therefore Lincoln sagely concluded:,
"There can "BE" no such thing as Gay Marriage"!
Doesn't matter that Lincoln never said any of that,
-it's a great argument, and always manages to gut-hook
some poor unsuspecting purple-oid with a slow sense of humor;>
Pro-abortion politicicans are next.
No kidding!
???!!!
It is their argument that Free Will is not involved because they are "born that way". Pure poppycock, of course, but you will argue that one 'till you are blue in the face, and not win. This is the one rock upon which all of their arguments rest, so it must be accepted without question.
I guess they have the free will to make that arguement. :)
Agreed. This is raw in-your-face confrontation by homosexuals flouting their deviant, vile, disgusting ways. They defy the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass and the Holy Bible.
Why should some receive special consideration just because of the manner in which they choose to have sex?
Oh - if refused, `they will return to their pews and remain standing'. "We're here, we're queer, get used to it!"
BTW, Ted Kennedy should approach the rail wearing an aquamarine sash.
To quote Abraham Lincoln:
"I do hot hope God is on my side, I hope that I am on his."
It is God's law deal with it.
Wow! If this Pope keeps this up, I might just become active in the church again.
The Pope is saying that Communion is not the place for perverts to push their political agenda. If you wish to commit the sin of the perversion outside Church He cannot stop you but bringing it to the altar where you accept the Eucharist is another thing. I dont know why he needed a word from the Pope to get him to do what was right to begin with.
As a Catholic if you go to confession you must confess to having sex outside marriage I suppose its a catch 22 for you since you cannot be married in the church but no more a catch 22 than confessing to using birth control by married couples. Both are hypocritical since they say their penance and promise to amend their lives with no intention of doing so. However they dont wear sashes flaunting their sin when they accept the Euchariist.
It is their argument that Free Will is not involved because they are "born that way". Pure poppycock, of course, but you will argue that one 'till you are blue in the face, and not win. This is the one rock upon which all of their arguments rest, so it must be accepted without question.
I am sexually oriented towards committing adultery. I suppose I was born that way.
When I was in ECUSA, it never occurred to be that a sacrament for bessing the motel room keys should be developed.
The fact that the church would condemn my acting on my sexual orientation, should I ever do so, is part of the support structure that promotes fidelity to my wife (plus the fact that she keeps the kitchen shears sharp).
What's the difference between me and the rainbow sashers, that they should be acclaimed in public?
I guess the rainbow folks didn't read the story of the rainbow and what happened right after. They need to understand the Curse of Ham.
"McNeill said. "The church is saying it only wants closeted gay people going to communion. That's troubling to me as a gay man. I think God would want me to be proud of who she created me to be.""
I have news for this person: those who believes God is female are NOT Catholics.
The only thing the Sodomites understand is pure and unadulterated intolerance.
Just look at where misdirected Tolerance has gotten us over the last 10 years........
Rallies in schools celebrating Sodomites.
Inculcation of K thru 4th grade children in Sodomy Lifestyles.
Severe restriction on Normal people toward "Tolerance" of disease causing behavior through abnormal Lifestyle.
Etc., Etc., Etc.
See what Criminal Homosexual Abuse by Catholic Priests have wrought over the last 50 years, near total destruction of the Catholic Church.
"BTW, Ted Kennedy should approach the rail wearing an aquamarine sash."
LOL!
If they are really born that way they'll have a couple major problems in the not too distant future. The genetic causes of diseases are currently being identified. If the difference is in their genes (instead of merely in their jeans) we should be able to identify it and test for it in a few years.
What will the, presently pro-abortion, gay lobby say if prospective parents choose to abort their gay inviable tissue masses and try again for one who'll perpetuate the family line?
Identifying genetic abnormalities is an important start, but the dream is to be able to fix them. We should start realizing that dream within a generation. What will (presumably straight) parents decide when their baby's genetic profile test turns up gay? Leave him to be discriminated against or convert him to the straight norm and win grandchildren as a bonus prize? The next gay generation could shrink faster than their HIV generation (and probably with less medical expenses.)
Thank you, Holy Father, for saying "yes"!
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ROTL at the mitre graphic!
LOL! Did you Photoshop that image?
You caught that too, eh? These people are SO CONFUSED aren't they? If they would step out of the "in your face" attitude and read scriptures, they might actually see that they are wrong.
GOOD ONE!!funny
Pride is one of the seven deadly sins!
As for the she,I'm with Doughboy...
Well: I think thats what I said. But since the men who marry the women taking birth control are equally guilty , what you and I are actually saying is that about 85% of American Catholics between the ages of 25 and 50 are not actually receiving Communion whether they go or not.
All your base are belong to Ratz...
ROFLOL!!!
Only if he also stops guitar playing and drums.
JEFF MILLER
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Everything these people need to know about sexuality is written in The Bible. Apparently they have never read it, or choose to ignore those parts.
It amazes me that some want the Church to change its position on homosexuality -- which would require a major edit of The Bible. To me, it means that these people believe The Word of God is not the ultimate authority on morality. If this is the case, then why are they even attending church?
They desire the perversion of society, are the work of Satan himself, and either knowingly or unknowingly act as his minions.
I read right over the "she". Thank You for pointing that out!
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