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Zogby Poll: Americans fed up on illegal aliens (81 % believe local/state should help feds)
WORLD NET DAILY.COM ^ | MAY 6, 2005 | Editors

Posted on 05/07/2005 12:53:05 PM PDT by CHARLITE

A new opinion poll by Zogby International indicates Americans are hardly pleased with the Bush administration on the subject of illegal immigration.

The poll, cited on CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" program yesterday, noted a huge majority – 81 percent – believes local and state police should help federal authorities enforce laws against illegal immigration. Only 14 percent disagreed.

Voters were also asked, "Do you support or oppose the Bush administration's proposal to give millions of illegal aliens guest worker status and the opportunity to become citizens?" Only 35 percent gave their support, and 56 percent said no.

"A majority opposed illegal immigration," pollster John Zogby told CNN. "In fact, when you combine those two terms, 'illegal and immigration,' it really conjures up a considerable amount of negatives. And, in fact, we find that it's really across the board."

According to the report, the greatest opponents of illegal immigration are Democrats, African-Americans, women and people with household income below $75,000, those with the most to lose in the job market.

When it came to the status of the nation's borders, respondents were asked, "Do you agree or disagree that the federal government should deploy troops on the Mexican border as a temporary measure to control illegal immigration?" A clear majority – 53 percent – agree, while 40 percent disagree.

"The Minuteman program highlighted the fact that we need more tighter border security," Phil Kent of American Immigration Control Foundation told the network. "So I think these numbers again are good. It's a good civics lesson for the American people. It shows our elected leaders that we want action."

In summing up her report, CNN correspondent Lisa Sylvester noted, "So, while the public wants tougher borders, politicians are pushing to leave them open. A real disconnect."

Dobbs responded to that statement, saying: "The disconnect that you referred to, Lisa, between our elected officials and the people of this country is in no – on no other issue any more dramatic than on the issue of illegal immigration. The Zogby poll is just simply the most recent in a string of polls that show that the American people want their borders secure, they want immigration laws to be enforced, and to clean up what has become an atrocious mess on the part of our elected representatives serving better the interests of U.S. multinationals than the people who are working for a living in this country."

Within a week of the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks on the U.S., Zogby polled Americans on border security and immigration issues.

When asked whether the government was doing enough to control the border and screen those allowed into the country, 76 percent said the government was not doing enough.

Regarding future threats to the U.S., 72 percent of likely voters in 2001 said a dramatic increase in resources devoted to border control and enforcement of immigration laws would help reduce the chances of a terrorist attack in the future.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 80americans; against; aliens; bordercontrol; borderthunder; helpforfed; illegal; illegals; immigration; intervention; local; poll; proactive; state; zogby

1 posted on 05/07/2005 12:53:05 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

This could be one poll zogby gets right.


2 posted on 05/07/2005 12:54:59 PM PDT by jimfrommaine
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To: CHARLITE

Rush said the whitehouse could be dangerously misreading the politics on this one and that seems to be the case. You're not gonna "educate" the 81% which doesn't buy into something like this; I'd say Rove and company need to rethink.


3 posted on 05/07/2005 1:04:48 PM PDT by tahotdog
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To: CHARLITE

One poll I wish the Bush Administration would pay attention to.


4 posted on 05/07/2005 1:14:08 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: DTogo

One poll I wish the Bush Administration would pay attention to.
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While Bush did not start Washington's "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" attitude toward illegals, he is certainly the first President in over a decade that has the resources to do the proper things TO FIX IT. He has FAILED in this regard, willfully.

How bad can this attitude be? EXTREMELY BAD is the correct answer, both from a national viewpoint and a Repub political viewpoint. The entire core essence of America is being trounced, including our Constitution, our borders, the significance of our citizenships, our soveringnty, the SECURITY of our nation...to say nothing of what the Repub party is going to suffer WHEN THE SOCIALISTS PICK UP THE BATON...sadly, at this point, all they have to do is talk about it -- just saying what people want to hear (their modus operandi) --- and that could win 2008 for them.

Bush is not even showing that he cares about the country and the REAL AMERICANS that are being dragged down in so many ways, by this irresponsibility of Washington.

We have a big problem here, and getting bigger -- the people are not going to keep taking it.



5 posted on 05/07/2005 1:21:57 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: CHARLITE

The 2008 Pubbie hopefuls better get on this bandwagon. The best one that does will be most likely to get my vote. Sadly, Rats likel Hillary have already realized this and have altered their position enough to sway some mindless independents and RHINOs.

In a related note, a latino Pubbie nominated for the Supreme Ct (if option arises) will do wonders to counter the Rats whining as they try to filibuster the first Latino SC judge and B$thch about racist Republicans.


6 posted on 05/07/2005 1:24:33 PM PDT by SoCal_Republican
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To: CHARLITE
Already posted here.
7 posted on 05/07/2005 1:28:58 PM PDT by TomServo ("Speak to me, fudge wall")
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To: EagleUSA
"Repub party is going to suffer WHEN THE SOCIALISTS PICK UP THE BATON...sadly, at this point, all they have to do is talk about it."

This is what frightens me the most. Hillary can "just talk about it," and make some vague statements about how she, as "president," will "make sure that uncontrolled immigration is stopped!" That's all that she, or any other liberal Democrat, needs to repeat, over and over again............to get an edge in the '08 election, and she could win with just that one issue. What perplexes me is that our otherwise "smart Texas poker player" - George W. Bush - doesn't seem to realize the danger, either to the country or to our Republican party, with his inattentiveness to this problem.

8 posted on 05/07/2005 1:43:32 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: CHARLITE

The justified reaction to the Federal indifference to perform one of its fundamental obligations, will not be pretty. Frustration can be explosive, when there literally is no solution in sight: Indifferent GOP or insane D


9 posted on 05/07/2005 1:52:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: EagleUSA; CHARLITE
We have a big problem here, and getting bigger -- the people are not going to keep taking it.

Bump to that.

Hi Char.

I have updated my FMCDH (From My Cold Dead Hands) sign-off with the addition of (BITS).....Blood In The Streets, which I foresee coming soon, due to the enormous increase of the Marxist progressive movement being shoved down the throat of this failing REPUBLIC through the Judicial tyranny of fiat law, the passing of unconstitutional laws by the Legislative and Executive branches of our government and the enormous tax burden placed upon the average American to support unconstitutional programs put forth by Marxist ideology.

I do not advocate revolution. I only think of what I foresee.

FMCDH(BITS)

10 posted on 05/07/2005 1:57:39 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Publius6961
Frustration can be explosive, when there literally is no solution in sight: Indifferent GOP or insane D(ems)

You've got that dead on. How long, people? How long?

FMCDH(BITS)

11 posted on 05/07/2005 1:59:33 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: CHARLITE

Lou Dobbs is only commentator on cable news who understands this issue and how it resonates with an awful lot of voters.


12 posted on 05/07/2005 2:10:13 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: CHARLITE
I saw AG Alberto Gonzales being interviewed on FOX the other day. When asked about what they are doing about illegals he said they were conducting a study on why they keep crossing the border and also that they are working with the Mexican authorties on the problem...


Now don't you all feel much better?
13 posted on 05/07/2005 2:10:18 PM PDT by Blackirish (Death to Tyrants)
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To: CHARLITE
I have written at least four letters to the POTUS and Rove regarding this issue over the last month or so; To date i have received no response. I did however receive one response from one letter to (my) Representative John Tierney, detailed and in depth (not telling me what I wanted to hear of the course).

The administration has, imo, a huge problem regarding the illegal immigration issue. Those who capitalize on this issue politically will likely gain significant power in the coming decade.

Rats or gop, imnsho, people will side with anyone at this point.

Even the hag, I fear.
14 posted on 05/07/2005 2:16:09 PM PDT by mmercier
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According to the report, the greatest opponents of illegal immigration are Democrats, African-Americans, women and people with household income below $75,000, those with the most to lose in the job market.

Wow. Who do these Democrats in Congress represent, anyway?

15 posted on 05/07/2005 2:18:32 PM PDT by captainblacksmith
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To: CHARLITE

What possible excuse does President Bush have for not listening? He is lucky he is not running for a third term!


16 posted on 05/07/2005 2:47:23 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: CHARLITE

What perplexes me is that our otherwise "smart Texas poker player" - George W. Bush - doesn't seem to realize the danger, either to the country or to our Republican party, with his inattentiveness to this problem.
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As others have noted as well, our Republic is failing. It is getting weaker, not stronger. And this, as large an issue as it is, is indeed contributing to this -- where is another Ronny Reagan when we need one? I have been trying to find a likely conservative, and I don't see much when I look at Washington...in fact I keep getting more discouraged each time I look at Washington.





17 posted on 05/07/2005 3:16:27 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: CHARLITE

Americans fed up with Zogby polls.
In the universe (which could be just one of many)that we find ourselves in a rather insignificant existence,what is the meaning and purpose of a Zogby poll?


18 posted on 05/07/2005 3:20:20 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: CHARLITE
FReeper raybbr was kind enough to compile this:

91 percent of those polled believe that illegal immigration is a serious problem.
Opinion Dynamics Poll for Fox News, April 25-26, 2005

55 p
ercent of Florida voters polled believe that immigration harms the United States.
Research 2000 Florida Poll, March, 2005


A majority of Americans (52 percent) want the level of immigration reduced. Only 7 percent want to see it increased.
Gallup Poll, January 3-5, 2005

Eighty percent of Carolinians said it should be harder for people to immigrate to the United States.
2003 Carolinas Poll, August 2004

Half of Americans (49 percent) want immigration reduced. Only 14 percent want to see it increased.
Gallup Poll, July 22, 2004

Eighty-five percent of Americans believe that "large number of immigrants entering the U.S." is an important threat to the vital interest of the United States in the next 10 years. Of those, 50 percent believe it is a "crticial threat."
Gallup Poll, February 2-12, 2004

The whole page of polls showing Americans are against unbridled immigration can be found at this link.

83 posted on 05/07/2005 7:29:25 AM EDT by raybbr
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To: backhoe
A huge list of polls supporting Zogby's polling data. For your reference.

19 posted on 05/07/2005 3:24:33 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: CHARLITE

Will our dopey president ever do anything about it?


20 posted on 05/07/2005 3:33:04 PM PDT by rimmont
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To: CHARLITE
A guy I've been talking to who claims he has talked to a lot of voters says the Republicans will lose the next election if Bush doesn't do something dramatic about the illegal immigrant situation. It's not just the jobs aspect, either. They're using up resources in hospitals and not paying their bills. They seem to think that they are 'entitled' to all the perks of US Citizens just for crossing the border.

They are bringing in crime, drugs, prostitution, and gang activity. It's costing a lot in manpower for law enforcement. Illegals are arrested for driving (usually DUI) with no license or insurance but put right back on the streets by the judges. They have been the drivers in more than their share of automobile accidents, often with deadly results.

Illegal Immigrants think American Jurisprudence is a Joke.
21 posted on 05/07/2005 3:49:23 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (Gov'ments 7 Branches: Executive,Legislative,Judicial,Bureaucracy,Lobbies,Political Parties,Media)
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To: HighlyOpinionated
"Illegal Immigrants think American Jurisprudence is a Joke."

Unfortunately, I believe that it will take a catastrophe which will be traced to perpetrators who crossed one or both borders, before Washington gets the message and begins to formulate a real plan.....like erecting fences (exactly like Israel's double, electified fence), along both northern and southern borders. These would be additionally reinforced with manned guard towers at appropriate, effective intervals.

22 posted on 05/07/2005 4:57:32 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: citizencon
"what is the meaning and purpose of a Zogby poll?"

This one appears to be accurate, and a genuine reflection of what Americans think on this topic. That's the meaning of it. His other polling seems to me to be skewed wildly to represent false conclusions favoring the liberal left.

23 posted on 05/07/2005 5:08:50 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: CHARLITE
"... greatest opponents of illegal immigration are Democrats,..."

Then why is the ACLU (Amerikian Communist Lawyers Union) harassing the Minutemen down at the border?

24 posted on 05/08/2005 11:01:59 AM PDT by Mikey (Freedom isn't free, but slavery is.)
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To: Mikey
""... greatest opponents of illegal immigration are Democrats,..."

Then why is the ACLU (Amerikian Communist Lawyers Union) harassing the Minutemen down at the border?

Great point..........and you're right. Why are Boxer and Feinstein backing driver's licenses for illegals?

25 posted on 05/08/2005 11:43:30 AM PDT by CHARLITE (I have a fabulous harlequin Great Dane named "Lucy!" :))
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To: CHARLITE

"According to the report, the greatest opponents of illegal immigration are Democrats, African-Americans, women and people with household income below $75,000, those with the most to lose in the job market."

This is a golden issue for Hillary. It unites her base, and lets her reach across the divide to disaffected conservatives.

Not to mention that the GOP margin of victory is already thin in many states (FL, NV, NM, CO) most impacted by illegal immigration.

If our party leaders don't start listening to the people, the open borders elitists are going to hand the White House to Hillary. And, as they say, hell hath no fury...


26 posted on 05/13/2005 3:06:52 PM PDT by nj26
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To: nj26
"If our party leaders don't start listening to the people, the open borders elitists are going to hand the White House to Hillary. And, as they say, hell hath no fury..."

This is absolutely true, and it is the biggest worry I have about the consequences to our party of this admininstration's "do nothing" policy. If the president would just announce that he has reformulated the border protection issue for America, and that he has now decided that previous plans are unrealistic. Further, that he is going to order the immediate construction of double fences, electrified, along both northern and southern borders, manned by guard towers placed at intervals........he would have the gratitude and support of 88+% of the American people.

If he were to say that he intends to strongly urge his Republican successor to continue with this new policy, we would be home free, and Killery & Billery would then begin house hunting back down in Arkansas.

27 posted on 05/13/2005 4:31:00 PM PDT by CHARLITE (Not gonna be happy until the Hillster is sent packing.)
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To: riri
The fact that many of them may be criminal, (well other than the fact that they are all here illegally, making them criminal) is really a secondary issue to me.

I have nothing against hispanic people. In fact, I rather like most of them and find them, mostly, extremely hard working. At least, the first generation immigrants.

My issue is, I do not think it is wise to shift your demographics at such a rapid pace. And expect or encourage no assimilation. We already see that many of them view the situation as"us vs them". I don't see how this will possibly play out in a positive light in the future. I certainly see "autonomous regions" on the map if this isn't halted. And, maybe even if it is halted because it may be damn well too late.

28 posted on 05/13/2005 4:37:34 PM PDT by riri (I am going to start proof reading my posts, soon, very soon.)
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