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Rudy still leads pack of GOP prez hopefuls [Marist College... 'whad'ya expect!]
NY Post ^ | May 7, 2005 | By FREDRIC U. DICKER

Posted on 05/07/2005 7:25:06 AM PDT by johnny7

ALBANY — Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani continues to lead the pack of Republican presidential hopefuls, topping Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, his closest rivals, a new poll yesterday showed.

The Marist College national survey found Giuliani running neck-and-neck, 47-46 percent, with Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, the leading choice to be the Democratic nominee, in a hypothetical presidential face-off.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani2008; hillary2008; marist; poll
I bet 80% of the people polled were dem's!

Ain't no way he... or McCain are 'gonna get the GOP nomination. I see McCain... maybe Giuliani going the third-party route like Perot in 1992, giving another Clinton the keys to the White House.

1 posted on 05/07/2005 7:25:06 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7

nah I dont think so...

at this point, name recognition will give you a lead in just about any poll for 2008....

Giuliani won't go the 3rd party route and I get the feeling McCain won't either, but that would be because of health issues....


2 posted on 05/07/2005 7:26:22 AM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: johnny7
IMO here's how much the Marist Poll can be believed...

WEDNESDAY APRIL 27, 2005

MAYOR BLOOMBERG REBOUNDS AGAINST POTENTIAL DEMOCRATIC RIVALS:
In a major turnabout in this year’s race for New York City mayor, Michael Bloomberg outpaces all of his Democratic contenders. Mayor Bloomberg, who trailed Former Bronx Borough President Fernando Ferrer just last month, now leads him by 13 points in the race for mayor among New York City’s registered voters. Bloomberg receives the support of 51% of the city’s registered voters...

Granted I don't live in NYC, but any poll that has this DOOFUS ahead isn't worth one dead tree...

3 posted on 05/07/2005 7:31:13 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: johnny7
I have to chuckle at all the "hopefuls" like Rudy, Hagel and McCain, darlings of the media (who's only goal is to split the republican big tent party.) None of them have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the primary. If they ever won the primary they'd get blown out, because the Dems wouldn't even vote for Jesus Christ if HE ran as a 'Pubbie.

The reality is that the Republicans are the Big Tent Party, but we actually have core beliefs, unlike the Dems, who are nothing more than a collection of bumper stickers on a 10-year-old Subaru!

4 posted on 05/07/2005 7:36:00 AM PDT by paul in cape
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To: johnny7

RUMMY AND CONDI IN 2008!!!


5 posted on 05/07/2005 7:42:11 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain Mama (Rummy and Condi in '08 ... Now THAT'S a ticket I could get behind!!)
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To: johnny7

Yep and Dean led the democrats in the early going until it got to lever pulling time. Then when the rubber met the road things began to change........ these type polls are nothing more than name recognition of national known figures at this time....


6 posted on 05/07/2005 7:42:37 AM PDT by deport (There are worse things than getting a wrong number call at 4 AM. It could be the correct number..)
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To: Condor51

"...any poll that has this DOOFUS ahead isn't worth one dead tree..."

Don't be ridiculous darling! Look at his competition! Bloomberg will waltz right into a second term, I have almost no doubt.


7 posted on 05/07/2005 7:46:57 AM PDT by jocon307 (Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again.)
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To: paul in cape
If they ever won the primary they'd get blown out, because the Dems wouldn't even vote for Jesus Christ if HE ran as a 'Pubbie.

First, the point is to get Independent voters and GOP voters for a winning coalition. Second, Dubya, no Jesus Christ he, got votes from Dems-- at least 10% of Dems.

8 posted on 05/07/2005 7:52:05 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: johnny7

I'd like to see Rudy run against Clintoon's Senate seat but I don't have any say in NY politics and I understand he's not interested.
I hear she may have some legal problems in her future anyway...something about campaign funds?
Semper Fi,
Kelly


9 posted on 05/07/2005 7:54:15 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: johnny7

Something tells me that the odds are about 1 in a gazillion that we would ever end up with the nominees of both major parties being from the same state. Of course, Hillary is not really from that state, but I still can't imagine the Pubbies nominating anybody for president who is from a BIG BLUE state no matter what they profess to be during the primaries. Just wet dreams of the Democrats and Rockefeller Republicans.


10 posted on 05/07/2005 8:03:28 AM PDT by penowa
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To: LogicalMs
They don't call him 'McCainiac' for nothing.

One look at him... his record... tells you all you need to know. Was he 'damaged' in 'Nam? Sure... but it's more than that.

I'll tell you one thing, if he ever gets 'a' prez-nomination and runs in 2008, the MSM will let you know just how nuts he is!

12 posted on 05/07/2005 8:28:24 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: kellynla

Semper Fi Kelly... semper fi.


13 posted on 05/07/2005 8:45:49 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: johnny7
Well, who is our best hope of winning?
Both Rudy and Condi have stated they are pro-choice.
What has McCain said? Is Jeb or Frist thinking about running?
14 posted on 05/07/2005 8:46:09 AM PDT by Boondock_Saint
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To: Boondock_Saint

Frist would be good, but Jeb would not. I think we need to get another name on there, a family dynasty is never a good thing.


15 posted on 05/07/2005 8:47:46 AM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: johnny7

It will be Allen now that Sanford has dropped out. I hope the GOP is smart and doesn't get into a knock down drag out primary. If they were smart they would put Condi on the VP slot.


16 posted on 05/07/2005 8:48:14 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Stop voter fraud-enact voter ID cards with photos w/ magnetic stripes that prevent multiple voting)
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To: MattinNJ; All
It's funny... conservatives like myself, want a conservative candidate in ALL elections. Alas... there are soooo few!

We like George Allen now... he may very well get the nominaton... but would we accept a McCain or a Guiliani in order to defeat a Hillary?!

Ahhh... it would be a bitter drink to consume... but given the consequence of not drinking...?????

17 posted on 05/07/2005 8:57:22 AM PDT by johnny7 (Ever wonder what's the 'crust' in 'Ol Crusty'?)
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To: johnny7

In 2000, mcpain (media) Az, drew 19% in the first "pubbie only" head to head primary against W. After that he was exposed as the fraud he is. FORGET him!
By 2008, it will be Rudy who? and the answer will be :"Rudy the partial birth abortion supporter and gay marriage fan."
FORGET him too.
The beast running for the rats in 2008? We wish. That woman will get creamed and pull down as many other rats as could posibily be pulled down. The only good thing about beast in 08, for the rats, will be that they will hit rock bottom and after that have no place to go but up. Our free ride will be over and we'll have to worry a bit about them again. After all they can't be that stu.... oh well on second thought, forget it all. We'll be running this show for the next 50 years.


20 posted on 05/07/2005 11:16:10 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Dealing with liberals? Remember: when you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: johnny7
Don't get me wrong-Rudy rocks. I saw first hand how he turned NYC around-and thaty was well before 9/11.

I for one, pray they run Hillary. She will be crushed and gone from our life forever. My worry is they put up a moderate from a red state like Breaux or Bayh and have Richardson on the undercard. That would be problematic. Hillary will be a walk in the park no matter who we put up (within reason).

21 posted on 05/07/2005 12:37:59 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Stop voter fraud-enact voter ID cards with photos w/ magnetic stripes that prevent multiple voting)
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To: paul in cape
because the Dems wouldn't even vote for Jesus Christ if HE ran as a 'Pubbie.

The Dems wouldn't vote for Jesus Christ if he were a Democrat! ("too right wing, too divisive, too religious, too moralistic, too judgemental...").

22 posted on 05/07/2005 12:43:44 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (If you can think 180-degrees apart from reality, you might be a Democrat.)
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To: bootleg2

Isn't he trying to get re-elected in the Senate? If he loses that race, there is almost no way he could win the GOP Presidential nomination, as he would be "damaged goods"...


23 posted on 05/07/2005 2:05:37 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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