Zogby: Americans fed up on illegal aliens. Majority against Bush plan, 81% want cops to help feds

World Net Daily ^ | May 6, 2005

[Pittsburg Phil]

As far as illegals go - round 'em up and head 'em out.

[NJ_gent]

"Stiff fines and prison time for the parasitic, treasonous employers will go a long way in solving this seminal issue."

10% of the previous year's gross would be a good start. Let's see how many times a small company doing $300,000 a year in business wants to pay a $30,000 fine.

[flashbunny]

It will be a matter of moments before a freeper open border fan comes along and declares that building a wall would be impossible!

This ignores the fact that the same country built an 1,800 mile railroad through mountains, over some of toughest terrain in the country, and in some of the harshest weather - with little more than picks, shovels, and blasting powder.

Yeah, nowadays with prefabricated construction and colossal earth moving machinery, building a wall would be impossible.

[Scarchin]

I think that Republican leadership has been duped by the MSM into believing that "tolerance" of illegals is the majority view. In Massachusetts there are at least 2 sob stories a month in the local media about an illegal who is being "persecuted."

[26lemoncharlie]

A new opinion poll by Zogby International indicates Americans are hardly pleased with the Bush administration on the subject of illegal immigration.

The poll, cited on CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" program yesterday, noted a huge majority – 81 percent – believes local and state police should help federal authorities enforce laws against illegal immigration. Only 14 percent disagreed
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For those of us who have been beating the keys, posting articles and our expressions of disgust with the inaction of our President and the Congress for over a year, we wonder where has everyone been??

This is another example of the controlled MSM, ignoring the American people and supporting the Socialist Agenda of the Progressive Democrats.

[NJ_gent]

"building a wall would be impossible!"

Building the Hoover Dam would be impossible as well if it weren't for the fact that we've already done it. Your example of the railroad is equally convincing that we possess the technical expertise and engineering knowhow to build such a wall. If things continue the way they're going, in another few years, a wall may be the only thing standing (pardon the pun) between illegal aliens and armed and dangerous American citizens so fed up with illegal immigration that they actively open fire on anything that moves like it's coming this way across that border.

[Uncle Hal]

Bush and the GOP had better get with this. This is a potential problem for our side. Hillary and Democrats are liable to come out to the right of us. They may not mean it but perception is reality. Big problem on the horizon.

[jocon307]

"Whichever party in 2008 comes out against illegal immigration will win."

Do you really think the issue will get that much attention by then? It would have to be one of the major parties, no third party will prevail on just one issue, it's been tried and has failed.

Who will have credibility? The Dems, no. The Pubbies, no.

They'll have to build this incrementally, this is the next big battle, and it will have to go step by step.

Of course a good first step would be closing/securing the border, and not just the Mexican border, not just the Canadian border, but the borders at the airports.

Visa reform, controlled borders, these are first steps. Throwing out criminal illegals (or increasing the penalties for their crimes to draconian levels) would be step A, even before #1.

I think many Americans MIGHT be willing to CONSIDER some kind of "amnesty" if they KNEW it wouldn't just lead to another flood.

WE've got to stop the current lawless situation. I for one don't trust Hillary! JEB, or even Rudy Giuliani to be any use for any of that.

[Sam the Sham]

Tell me, cheap labor Dane, is there some poll out there that says different ? Is there some poll out there that shows blue collar Americans just thrilled about illegals driving down their wages ? You have some poll about Americans construction workers happy about losing their jobs ?

This poll is the latest in a series saying pretty much the same thing. There is a strong grass roots anger about illegal immigration especially among Americans who are hardest hit economically by competition with illegals.

Religious conservatives are blue collar primarily. If the GOP nominates a McCain or a Giuliani who is weak on borders and the Dems nominate someone who at least talks tough on illegal immigration, they will either sit home on election day or cross over.

[Dane]

This ignores the fact that the same country built an 1,800 mile railroad through mountains, over some of toughest terrain in the country, and in some of the harshest weather - with little more than picks, shovels, and blasting powder.

Ahem, with immigrant labor(Chinese). This is where we got chop suey.

[ChildOfThe60s]

Republicans want cheap subsidized workers for the subsidized farms in the red states

That seems to be the prevailing analysis, but, I'm not convinced of it. I am of the opinion that we do not need to look that deeply. With the Pubs timidity is, more often than not, the answer.

They get demonized everytime they take a firm stand & have not the guts to defend and return fire. Consequently, they give up before the game starts.

In psycho-babble it is refered to as a self fulfilling prophecy.

[Dane]

See reply #8 for a juxtaposition of zogby's poll.

[Eva]

If the majority want the cops to help the feds, why do they elect mayors that forbid the police from helping the feds and legislators who pass laws requiring benefits for illegal aliens, that keep them coming here. If you took away all the benefits, you would see a significant reduction in the numbers.

[DumpsterDiver]

That's why they're called "undocumented workers" now, kind of like someone who forgot his ID card at work and has to get a temporary one from security.

I forget what thread it was, but the article referred to illegal aliens as "people on the move".

[rolling_stone]

Ahem, with immigrant labor(Chinese). This is where we got chop suey.

AHEM legal immigrant labor.....

[neutrino]

Whichever party in 2008 comes out against illegal immigration will win.

I have never voted for a democrat - not in more than 30 years of voting.

That being said...I agree. I am tired of uncontrolled open borders. I want the invasion stopped.

[randog]

Not just construction, but food industry, hospitals, maintenance work, contract work, etc.

True. The big joke where I live is that restaurant cooks are all Mexicans, even in Chinese restaurants.

[k2blader]

It only makes sense to oppose illegal immigration.