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'Alcohol makes your brain grow' (new brain cells)
BBC ^ | Apr. 29, 2005 | BBC

Posted on 05/01/2005 10:47:07 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Drinking alcohol boosts the growth of new nerve cells in the brain, research suggests. But while this might sound good in theory, the Swedish team believe these new cells could contribute to the development of alcohol dependence.

Mice fed moderate quantities of alcohol grew extra brain cells, but also showed a preference for alcohol over water.

The Karolinska Institute research appears in the International Journal of Neuropsychopharmacology.

Brain growth

Lead researcher Professor Stefan Brene said: "We believe that the increased production of new nerve cells during moderate alcohol consumption can be important for the development of alcohol addiction and other long-term effects of alcohol on the brain."

Alternatively, the extra cells might help with learning and memory, he said.

Another theory, according to the researchers, is that the tranquilising effect of alcohol triggers the growth.

All of the new cells developed normally.

A spokeswoman from the Campaign for Real Ale said: "It is well known that alcohol in moderation is good for your body so it's no surprise it's also good for your mind.

"Maybe that is why lots of pub quiz teams are so bright."

A spokeswoman from Alcohol Concern said: "This type of study could prove useful in the long term to shed light on the relationship between alcohol intake and dependency.

"However, very little can be drawn from a single animal-based study at this stage.

"Much more research is needed to explore the relationship between drinking patterns and their effect on the human brain."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alcohol; beer; brain; braincells; cary; health; hormesis; neurons; wine
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They used to claim that alcohol kills braincells, now research shows, the opposite is true.
1 posted on 05/01/2005 10:47:09 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
And it makes your breath smell sweet! And you don't get a gut from it, or drive erradically, or spelle funnee. BURP!

Next: The cheeseburger and pizza weight loss plan!

2 posted on 05/01/2005 10:48:21 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: FairOpinion
This may explain why Scientific American magazine is chock-full of liquor ads.
3 posted on 05/01/2005 10:48:29 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Fingers of Fury™)
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To: Darkwolf

The operative phrase is moderation.

Experiments have shown that alcohol reduces heart attacks and strokes, makes your blood vessels more pliable, etc.

A lot of things, in fact pretty much all medications, which are good for you in small quantities nad moderation, are harmful in large quantities.


4 posted on 05/01/2005 10:52:03 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Darkwolf

Alcohol also reduces cholesterol ( the bad kind) and increases good cholesterol.


5 posted on 05/01/2005 10:52:50 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Time to change my handle from PV77 to Einstein ;)


6 posted on 05/01/2005 10:53:32 PM PDT by ProudVet77 (Warning: Frequent sarcastic posts)
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To: FairOpinion

So I'm actually a genius?


7 posted on 05/01/2005 10:53:52 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: FairOpinion; NautiNurse; andrew2527; AnAmericanMother; A Jovial Cad; Betis70; Bigturbowski; ...
Click to be added or removed.

Ping.

8 posted on 05/01/2005 10:54:21 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: ProudVet77

Healthy Einstein, actually.

From the Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/invoke.cfm?id=SC00024
Alcohol and your health: Weighing the pros and cons

By Mayo Clinic staff
For every news story you read about the benefits of alcohol, another seems to warn you of the risks. The conflicting information can be confusing and frustrating.

Though it's unclear whether alcohol's health benefits outweigh its risks, what is certain is that anything more than moderate drinking — two drinks a day if you're a man or one drink a day if you're a woman — can negate any benefits alcohol has on your body.

So should you avoid alcohol? Or can you continue to enjoy your glass of wine with dinner? It's up to you and your doctor. Here are some points for you to consider.



Pros


Moderate alcohol consumption may provide some health benefits. It can:

Reduce your risk of developing heart disease, peripheral vascular disease and intermittent claudication
Reduce your risk of dying of a heart attack
Reduce your risk of strokes, particularly ischemic strokes
Lower your risk of gallstones
Possibly reduce your risk of diabetes

Cons


Excess alcohol consumption can lead to serious health problems, such as:

Cancer, such as gastrointestinal, oral, pharynx, larynx, esophageal and liver cancers, as well as breast cancer in women
Chronic pancreatitis, especially in people with high levels of triglycerides in their blood
Elevated levels of triglycerides in the blood
High blood pressure
Miscarriage
Injuries due to impaired motor skills
Sudden death in people with cardiovascular disease
Heart failure
Stroke
Alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver
Fetal alcohol syndrome in an unborn child, including slow growth and nervous system problems
Suicide




Actually I don't like the way they say "pro" and "con" -- as if it were the pro and con of alcohol, when in fact, it is highly dependent on the amount.

As I said earlier, medications which heal in small quantities, kill in large quantities - and they don't say pro or con.

It's time that they admit, that alcohol is actually good for you, when consumed IN MODERATION.


9 posted on 05/01/2005 10:57:26 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: quantim

Today, I was increasing my mental capacity through the imbibement of Primitivo (Zinfandel to those on our side of the Atlantic) from Puglia.


10 posted on 05/01/2005 11:01:41 PM PDT by Clemenza (I am NOT A NUMBER, I am a FREE MAN!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Mind Growth!


11 posted on 05/01/2005 11:02:40 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: quantim

Wow, I've literally seen it all....a wine ping list on FR!!!


12 posted on 05/01/2005 11:04:18 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite (How soon will the U.S.A. be U.S.S.A.?)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

It's just more evidence that alcohol makes you smart, or that smart people drink wine (and other drinks) IN MODERATION ONLY, of course. ( and only when they don't drive)


13 posted on 05/01/2005 11:05:52 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

Hold muh beer!

No... on second thought... gimme yers!


14 posted on 05/01/2005 11:07:18 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: quantim
I always suspected my IQ was pushing the limits of the upper-end power curve...this news confirms it. :-)
15 posted on 05/01/2005 11:07:45 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." -Heraclitus)
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To: FairOpinion

So THAT'S what happend to Steven Hawking!

(Can't duck fast enough)


16 posted on 05/01/2005 11:11:42 PM PDT by MacDorcha (Where Rush dares not tread, there are the Freepers!)
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To: FairOpinion
You can also get more of the good kind and less of the bad kind without bringing alcohol into it at all.

I couldn't care less what people want to do regarding alcholol. But the message of the article is a bit like saying "Shooting yourself in the face clears your nasal passages." Well, okay, but this is a bit of information in a vacuum, isn't it? It's not like one can't get these benefits without drinking alcohol.

17 posted on 05/01/2005 11:21:02 PM PDT by Darkwolf (Jean Shepherd audio: http://www.flicklives.com/Mass_Back/mass_back.htm)
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To: FairOpinion; All

Alright rack itt LOLOL!

I hear it is wine that good for heart and blood color when I have my physical last year the nurse ask me do you drink Red Wine I told her yes she told me that ROFL


18 posted on 05/01/2005 11:25:42 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in, it for truth, justice, and the American way,"=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Eaker; TheMom; humblegunner

Uh Ohh !


19 posted on 05/01/2005 11:28:17 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Darkwolf

I am not advocating that people run off and start drinking alcohol, that's why I posted the Mayo clinic's pro and con.

But at the same time alcohol isn't something "evil", that you mustn't even have a single drop, as some people claim.

There are a lot of people who indeed shouldn't drink a drop for various reasons, particular health conditions, or medications they are taking, or have alcoholic tendencies.

But for many people, having an occasional drink is fine. The anti-alcohol people went overboard scaring people with all the terrible effects alcohol has, and made it sounds, as if even a drink every now and then is the same, as if someone drank excessively.

The point is that there is a huge difference between drinking occasionally and excessively. Occasional drinking doesn't seem to be harmful for most people, it may even be beneficial.


20 posted on 05/01/2005 11:29:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Eagles6

Me too, Unified Field Theory on my tomorrow to do list!!


21 posted on 05/01/2005 11:32:10 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: Eagles6

Me too, Unified Field Theory on my tomorrow to do list!!


22 posted on 05/01/2005 11:32:33 PM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: FairOpinion

I always knew we Aussies carried a certain intellectual advantage over everyone else...now I know why!!!


23 posted on 05/01/2005 11:46:07 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: Darkwolf
"I couldn't care less what people want to do regarding alcholol (Sic)"

"But the message of the article is a bit like saying "Shooting yourself in the face clears your nasal passages."

Premise B negates the frazzled special pleading of Premise A--and within the framework of one declarative sentence and it's immediate subordinate.

Reading comprehension and logical counter-repartee are obviously not your forte.

Sounds to me like you could use a drink to bolster those dimly flickering synapses...*snicker*...

24 posted on 05/01/2005 11:51:46 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("A man's character is his fate." -Heraclitus)
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To: FairOpinion

So, that half bottle of Ouzo I shared with my husband on my birthday night made me smarter? Woohoo! And I felt so stupid the day after. Sheese. Silly me.


25 posted on 05/01/2005 11:52:41 PM PDT by lil varmint
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To: Atchafalaya

Unified Field Theory is small potatoes and so yesterday. You need to drink more and faster.


26 posted on 05/02/2005 12:07:08 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: Eagles6

So, wassssuuupppp!


27 posted on 05/02/2005 12:10:47 AM PDT by Atchafalaya
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To: FairOpinion

I certainly thought there would be more Homer Simpson on this thread.


28 posted on 05/02/2005 12:28:11 AM PDT by Khurkris (This tag-line is available on CD ROM. NRA.)
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To: Khurkris

One night at Cheers, Cliff Clavin explained the "Buffalo Theory" to his
>
>buddy, Norm. "Well ya see, Norm, it's like this. A herd of buffalo
>can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is
>hunted, it
>is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first.
>This
>natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general
>
>speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular
>killing
>of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only
>
>operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of
>alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the
>slowest and
>weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer
>
>eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more
>
>efficient machine! That's why you always feel smarter after a few
>beers."


29 posted on 05/02/2005 12:46:29 AM PDT by Rodney Dangerfield
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To: Aussie Dasher

Well actually, the operative word is, think.

You Aussies think you carry an intellectual advantage, mate. Bottoms up!

BTW, I love your FOSTERS commercial. The woman crushing that large beer can on her forehead. Now there's a genius. ;^)


30 posted on 05/02/2005 1:00:14 AM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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To: FairOpinion

I knew it !


31 posted on 05/02/2005 1:54:52 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Rodney Dangerfield
Homer prepares to do his final exam to pass high school...

Homer:
All right brain, you don't like me, and I don't like you. But let's just get me through this, and I can get back to killing you with beer.
Homer's brain:
It's a deal!

32 posted on 05/02/2005 4:38:09 AM PDT by Khurkris (This tag-line is available on CD ROM. NRA.)
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To: Squantos; Eaker; humblegunner

This clears up a lot of questions!


33 posted on 05/02/2005 4:56:34 AM PDT by TheMom (Govern yourself accordingly.)
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To: FairOpinion

Which all explains why Ted Kennedy's arteries didn't seize up a decade or two ago. Heck, his offspring probably got colicky without a little whiskey in their baby bottle.


34 posted on 05/02/2005 5:18:52 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending.)
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To: quantim

If this is true, I can call Steve Hawkins, dufus. YOu will excuse me I have to go calculate py to its last digit. Be back in ten.


35 posted on 05/02/2005 5:36:31 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, who's bringing the chips?)
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To: FairOpinion

That explains why I got a headache this morning, my brain is outgrowing my head!


36 posted on 05/02/2005 6:15:57 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: All
Now I finally understand.

This explains it all.

Why the French are always so condescending. They've known all along that they're smarter than everyone else. Thats why they value their whine so much.

OOPS! Stupid me. I mispelled whine.

OOPS! Did it again. I must have a problem with the French and their treasured beverage.

37 posted on 05/02/2005 6:53:33 AM PDT by mountn man
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To: FairOpinion

The old saw about "everything in moderation". Science is more and more proving the truth of it.


38 posted on 05/02/2005 7:04:16 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: FairOpinion
Drinking alcohol boosts the growth of new nerve cells in the brain, research suggests.

But while this might sound good in theory, the Swedish team believe these new cells could contribute to the development of alcohol dependence.


D'oh!

39 posted on 05/02/2005 2:54:26 PM PDT by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Kenton

Excellent deduction - makes perfect sense to me!


40 posted on 05/02/2005 3:07:00 PM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: SunkenCiv

In case you want to get even smarter, than you already are... ;)


42 posted on 05/02/2005 7:46:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: This Just In

Hey, don't knock it! We've just increased our troop numbers in Iraq.


43 posted on 05/03/2005 5:11:04 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: FairOpinion

Thanks for the ping, and of course, for the kind remarks. :') Alcohol does kill brain cells, but it is also a vasodilator, which increases the size of capillaries. That could mean that new cells would develop.


44 posted on 05/03/2005 5:53:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: Coleus

"This Chivas Rocks" ping.


45 posted on 05/03/2005 5:54:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FR profiled updated Monday, April 11, 2005. Fewer graphics, faster loading.)
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To: Junior

See...you ARE getting smarter every night.


46 posted on 05/03/2005 5:56:48 AM PDT by cjshapi
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To: cjshapi

I should soon be able to give Einstein a run for his money.


47 posted on 05/03/2005 7:03:45 AM PDT by Junior (“Even if you are one-in-a-million, there are still 6,000 others just like you.”)
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To: Aussie Dasher

We can always count on you guys. Great fighting force that's always ready to engage. Cheers!


48 posted on 05/03/2005 12:15:22 PM PDT by This Just In ((In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king))
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To: FairOpinion; SunkenCiv

I'd wait for a few more studies to come out before I hit the bottle.


49 posted on 05/03/2005 2:04:58 PM PDT by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
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To: This Just In

May it ever be so!


50 posted on 05/03/2005 7:31:47 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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