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Illegal Border Crossings Stir Citizen Anger
GOPUSA ^ | April 25, 2005 | Thomas D. Segel

Posted on 04/25/2005 12:04:30 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What can we expect from an Executive Branch and Congress that have failed to defend this country? Everyone knows it isn't the safety of our citizens. The Washington politicos voted into existence an airport security system that isn't any better than it was before 9/11. The administration and lawmakers have failed to provide us with adequate port inspections. If it were not our most serious issue, even their attempts at border security would be a joke.

The convoluted logic of those in Washington D.C. boggles the minds of most Americans. Though actions or non-actions set into motion by power brokers grow out of partisan positions, their inability to develop a strong immigration and border protection plan can only be rationalized if we universally hold the belief everyone inside the Capitol beltway is brain-dead.

People across the United States really do understand what is going on in Washington. Stacy Roberts, writing from California expresses some of his family's views saying "The guys in power -- both parties- are not interested in prosecuting the people who hire illegal aliens. If they would crack down on that front we should see a lot fewer illegal immigrants. Look at what happens when the police crack down on Johns as well as hookers. The problems shrink tremendously."

Jewel Sheldon of Washington wants something done about the millions already in our country. "I would like to see every illegal in this country deported. Forget the vegetables. I can do without them. We were able to feed our citizens and most of the world before illegals and we can do it again."

From Texas comes this message from June Venable, "Until our President decides he's on our side, I'm afraid the problems will increase. Thank heaven for the brave souls in the Minuteman Project."

Depending upon what inaccurate figures you accept, there are 7 million or 8 million or 10 million... or this week 11 million illegal aliens inside the United States. Texas claims to know there are more than 1 million illegals in the Lone Star State. California claims it has 2, 210,000 such residents. Illinois says it has about 500,000 undocumented people in the state. Florida thinks its number is some place between 700,000 and 800,000. Arizona lists figures in the 300,000 range. Even North Dakota, where the entire population can be added up on a hand calculator, says that 4,000 illegal aliens are inside its borders.

There is a big problem when one views such numbers. If we can quote the numbers of illegal aliens inside our country in the millions and hundreds of thousands, does it seem logical to believe there are no dangerous people in the mix? We already know that in states such as California and Texas more than 25% of the prison population is made up of illegal aliens who have committed everything from drug running to murder. Other states also report large numbers of incarcerated aliens. We know these criminals abound within the hoards that race across our undefended boundaries. That being the case, why should we also take the national lawmaker position and assume there are no terrorists within the mix?

Our Border Patrol claims it has apprehended or turned back at least 25% of those who try to illegally enter this country. If that were our track record we surely wouldn't want it in print. Twenty five percent effectiveness on any other job in this country would earn everyone involved a pink slip. So, the Border Patrol either needs a mass firing, or it needs four times today's manpower.

Emails from every region of the country confirm to this writer that just about everyone has solid answers to our security problems. Everyone has answers except Washington.

Guy Gabaldon is a Marine hero who was nominated for the Medal of Honor and received the Navy Cross after single handedly capturing more than 1,500 Japanese soldiers on Saipan. He later ran for public office. "When I ran for Congress in California part of my platform was to shut down the Tijuana crossing until they got their act together. We are going down fast and are doing nothing to stop the invasion."

From Colorado, Cindy Knox writes "We have a mechanism in place that allows people to immigrate legally. In my opinion, that is the only way people should come into this country, except for students and tourists. Students and tourists should be allowed a specific time to be here. Immigration officials should have a tracking method for them and when their time is up, they should be returned to their country. If they do not go willingly, they should not be granted reentry into the United States."

None of the ideas are unique. What people want are common sense solutions to national problems. Bill Frances writing from California says..."If we know there are millions of illegal aliens living in the United States, why are we not arresting and deporting thousands upon thousands of them every month."

John Boring, who lives in Arizona, writes, "I support an open border policy. A side effect to a program of open border crossings would be that Mexico, with incentives, would become involved and would do their part in catching the bad guys before they got to our gates. If they didn't the incentives would dry up. Sounds to me like a better plan than patrolling endless miles of fences, washes and rivers to catch 25 percent of those risking their lives in such a hostile environment."

Beau Garcia, who identifies himself as a Chicano-Filipino suggests, "Of course, I am for increased Homeland Security...but legality above all, simple as that. And one thing that might help is to come down hard on every apartment manager, business owner, employer who provides for these illegals by giving them a safe harbor."

Take for example the state of New Mexico. From what is heard, there seem to be many "safe harbors" there. The state reports there are 1, 903, 289 illegal aliens in New Mexico. If it can provide such expect numbers right down to the individual, they must have all been counted. If they can be counted....they can be apprehended.

We must also remember that the figures being quoted by everyone reflect relatively new statistics. You will recall in 1986, the United States granted amnesty to those illegal or undocumented immigrants residing in the country. So, this influx of people, who we know absolutely nothing about, has taken place during the past 19 years.

Those who understand border issues are not anti immigration. Rational people realize it is the immigrant population that has fueled the engine of this nation for more than 200 years. However, they demand we have an immigration policy that conforms to the reality of the times. We are in a war which could last for decades and we must know who is in our country at all times.

Frank and Christina Aebi have Hispanic relatives in Houston. They report that during a recent visit family members were complaining about people crossing into Texas and getting entitlements that even they did not receive. "They say that they worked here all their lives and now the money and Medicare and Medicaid are going to illegals. They even spoke in favor of the Minutemen. They told us about one of the TV channels in Houston that tells illegals to come to meetings where they will learn about all the rights they have. They also said on television that lawyers would be provided if illegals were arrested for anything." Frank concluded his remarks saying "There seems to be growing resentment in the legal Hispanic community."

Many people residing in the Border States feel a temporary guest worker program is realistic. It would supply those needed hands to harvest crops or fill other unmet labor needs. They also believe it should not give resident status. At the same time detention facilities should be constructed, capable of housing the huge number of people who elect to ignore our laws. Legislation needs to be passed that would provide for speedy deportation. Also, an honest effort should be made to deport the millions of illegals now residing in the country...and they should not qualify for guest worker status. Most important of all, our government should demand that both Mexico and Canada make serious efforts in a partnership to control the borders.

Will any of this wish list become law? Never, if we depend upon the weak willed politicians who place party politics in front of national security. The only way it will happen is for outraged citizens to express their anger to Congress and the Administration. Only then will our political wimps grow backbones.

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Note -- The opinions expressed in this column are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions, views, and/or philosophy of GOPUSA.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderjumpers; cheaplabor; criminals; hispanics; illgalaliens; politicians; politics; terrorists; waronterror
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Deport them all. And let's make sure there's really a worker shortage before we start a guest worker program.
1 posted on 04/25/2005 12:04:39 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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PING! DEPORT THEM ALL!
2 posted on 04/25/2005 12:06:14 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Deport them all; let Fox sort them out!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
We already know that in states such as California and Texas more than 25% of the prison population is made up of illegal aliens who have committed everything from drug running to murder. Other states also report large numbers of incarcerated aliens. We know these criminals abound within the hoards that race across our undefended boundaries

Facts that the "they come here to do jobs Americans won't do" crowd conveniently ignores.

3 posted on 04/25/2005 12:14:53 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Deporting them all is impractical, haven't you heard?

Sometime around the late 40s, Americans had a major transformation, embracing the instinct for survival only if convenient and "practical">.

It's too soon to tell if this kinder gentler approach will work.

Me? I would gladly pay 50% more in taxes if I could choose to have all of it spent to deal with this particular impracticality.

4 posted on 04/25/2005 12:16:25 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Take for example the state of New Mexico. From what is heard, there seem to be many "safe harbors" there. The state reports there are 1,903,289 illegal aliens in New Mexico.

This is an amazing fact, considering that the US Census Bureau lists NM's 2003 population at 1,874,614. I guess that means that I'm an illegal alien...

5 posted on 04/25/2005 12:16:45 PM PDT by Disambiguator (This tagline should only be taken under the advice of your doctor.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Deport them all. And let's make sure there's really a worker shortage before we start a guest worker program.

Good idea. And their employer should pick up the cost of education for their children and health care.

6 posted on 04/25/2005 12:16:57 PM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Deport them all. And let's make sure there's really a worker shortage before we start a guest worker program.

Good idea. And their employer should pick up the cost of education for their children and health care.

7 posted on 04/25/2005 12:17:05 PM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Has anyone bothered to ask the INS what is the average cost to deport an illegal alien?

I know, they never tried it, so they might not have the numbers handy.
Maybe it's time they tried?

8 posted on 04/25/2005 12:17:49 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are ignorance, stupidity and hydrogen)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"The guys in power -- both parties- are not interested in prosecuting the people who hire illegal aliens. If they would crack down on that front we should see a lot fewer illegal immigrants. Look at what happens when the police crack down on Johns as well as hookers. The problems shrink tremendously."
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This idea is not only hypocritical, it is not solving the problem. The problem lies with enforcing immigration law and securing the border, accompanied with running out all the illegals that do not want to properly apply for worker visas or citizenship. Once THE REAL PROBLEM is solved, then going after companies that hire them, would be far more effective. I think attention to the border issue needs to come first. If you want to save a sinking ship, don't worry about penalizing the captain, until you fix the leak !!!


9 posted on 04/25/2005 12:19:03 PM PDT by EagleUSA (q)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"The state reports there are 1, 903, 289 illegal aliens in New Mexico. If it can provide such expect numbers right down to the individual, they must have all been counted. If they can be counted....they can be apprehended."

Excellent point!!


10 posted on 04/25/2005 12:19:23 PM PDT by squidward
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

"The state reports there are 1, 903, 289 illegal aliens in New Mexico. If it can provide such expect numbers right down to the individual, they must have all been counted. If they can be counted....they can be apprehended."

Excellent point!!


11 posted on 04/25/2005 12:19:32 PM PDT by squidward
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I'm for deportation 100%

Love you tag line..... : )


12 posted on 04/25/2005 12:20:45 PM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

cheap vegetables?

It's costing taxpayers NINE BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR in California alone to allow illegals to stay here!
And at those prices we could FLY every illegal alien in America home and still be ahead of the game at the end of the year.

Until we secure the borders and ports, fine employers who hire illegals, deport all the illegals including the incarcerated and enforce the immigration laws of this country there will never be a victory in the "war on drugs", there will never be a victory in the "war on terrorism" and there will definitely never be "homeland security!"

Vicente Fox needs to start solving Mexico's problems instead of dumping them on our back porch.
Fox certainly doesn't tolerate aliens crossing Mexico's southern border.

President Bush, do your job, enforce the laws and deport the illegals and secure the borders.
Ike did it, so can you!

Semper Fi,
Kelly


13 posted on 04/25/2005 12:22:00 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I'm all for deporting them. However, what do we do with the children that were born here from those illegals?


14 posted on 04/25/2005 12:25:00 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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Texas is getting bled dry as well. For the pittance illegals contribute to the economy, they use up a disproportionate amount of emergency medical, legal, and social services costs as well.

I still think the US annexing Mexico is a viable option. Kick out the smack tards currently running it and get the people of Mexico a REAL government. It'd also open up a lot of business opportunities for US citizens that are not currently available under Vincente's criminal enterprise.

15 posted on 04/25/2005 12:34:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Do you know what the numbers are?
I would be curious to know exactly how much illegals are costing TX,AZ,NM?


16 posted on 04/25/2005 12:36:15 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000942.html

$9B for Cali. $4.7B for Texas. Since their economies are smaller, probably around half that for AZ and NM each.

17 posted on 04/25/2005 12:42:35 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Oh yeah... and those are ANNUAL numbers. Not net total over a set period of time.


18 posted on 04/25/2005 12:45:21 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: Dead Corpse

Man! there's nothing cheap about that lettece! LOL


19 posted on 04/25/2005 12:46:14 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Okay, this may be a stupid question, but I live 2000 miles from the border, so humor me.

Is some sort of fence or wall impractical? Too ugly? Too expensive? I guess electrified is inhumane, huh? I assume someone has presented this before.


20 posted on 04/25/2005 12:47:08 PM PDT by pa mom
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