Posted on 04/19/2005 8:05:08 PM PDT by DBeers
Homosexual Advocacy Group Criticizes New Pope
(CNSNews.com) - Not everyone had words of praise for the selection of Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger as the new pope.
A homosexual advocacy group expressed "concern" that Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, "does not present a hopeful vision of the future or inspire optimism for affirming language, policies or outreach."
Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) noted that Ratzinger "authored a Vatican document condemning marriage and adoption by gay men and lesbians in July 2003."
The Washington Blade described the document as a "battle plan for Catholic politicians." According to PLFAG, the document calls on the Catholic Church to "reject gay and lesbian families on the basis of 'basic values.'"
"Religious leaders like Ratzinger cannot dictate to us what our family values must be, particularly when their idea of family values excludes all GLBT people and loved ones," said PFLAG's Executive Director Jody Huckaby, a homosexual former Catholic, in a statement.
"Our PFLAG families have values of love, respect and compassion -- perhaps the most distinguishing thing about those values is that they don't exclude anyone," said Huckaby, who urged "GLBT people and their families to confront bigotry" in the Catholic Church "and other faith traditions."
"We cannot shy away from explaining how discrimination in organized religions can tear families apart. The fight for GLBT equality must include our willingness to challenge our religious leaders," Huckaby added.
PFLAG said the Catholic Church should be celebrated for its advocacy for the "marginalized and maligned people of the world -- the poor, the politically oppressed and those in war-torn countries."
"Ironically, however, the Church refuses to recognize the injustices it inflicts on its own families each time leaders like Cardinal Ratzinger vilify GLBT people. We hope that, as PFLAG families reach out to leaders of their faith, members of the clergy will realize the need for responsible religious rhetoric and the strength that comes from embracing all families," the group concluded.
ping.
In other news, the sun is expected to rise in the EAST tomorrow.
That tells me the Cardinals picked the right man to be Pope!
Libs are worried... means Pope Benedict is the right man for the job!
yabba dabba du!!!
The church should be celebrated for its advocacy for all these people, but the church should not begin advocating in favor of sin in order to be celebrated.
Looks like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson will be given a run for their money by Benedict XVI for the title of "Christian Most Hated by the Sodomites"
Schadenfreude bump.
Pope Benedict - As a Southern Baptist I concur with your stand on homosexuality. Preach on, Brother.
"Religious leaders like Ratzinger cannot dictate to us what our family values must be, particularly when their idea of family values excludes all GLBT people and loved ones,"
Uh, he sure can if you want to be a Catholic. If you don't want to play by the rules don't join the club.
I know I am not the only one here who is not surprised by this. It's one of those, "gosh, really?" stories.
That, plus it tells me of the vanguard of the hoard massing for what may be the last stand of Christianity. God bless and protect Pope Benedict XVI!
From another thread, "gidget7" (I think) said: "Anytime a liberal (or perv - my edit) squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" I nominate this for the best line of the night.
Yes, Jody, you're a "former Catholic" - apparently you never attended Mass on the 15th week after Pentecost ever.
Because if you had, you would have heard these words of Christ:
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
You don't fool me, Jody.
It's not just the Pope you hate - it's Jesus whom you really despise.
The Catholic church has voluntary membership, and unlike a government, one can't bitch about it because he or she lives by its decisions. Those who demand the church change can't seem to get it through their heads that every entity on the planet doesn't have to go by YOUR rules, and YOUR lifestyle. THIS agnostic has to laugh at these boobs (poor choice of word) who claim every private group with NO impact on their life is somehow a danger to them.
Didn't PFLAG get the memo?
They can PFLUK themselves for all we care.
Conservative Pope ping!
One of the ways you can tell who is on your side is by WHO and WHAT groups bring fire to bear upon an individual. When the firefight rages, you figure out who your friends are pretty quick.
The anti-family, gay and liberal groups are going bonkers, so that means to me that this guy stands for something Right. I'm not a Catholic, but this Pope looks like he's on the Right side to me.
Had to turn on the Commie News Network CNN)and More Stupid Nonsensical Bull Crap (MSNBC) to see how the Cardinals blew this one.
Evidently, there is not a chance in hell that this Pope will bring their vision of "reform" to the Catholic Church.
It's doubtful that we'll ever see transvestite priests and nuns in see-through habits, the way things are going.
Hmmmm? I guess the Pope calling homosexuality "an intrinsic moral evil" would do it!!
Yep. Pope Benedict is hated by all the right people.
And God can't tell me what to do either. So there!
(My kids were more mature than this at the age of 13......)
Agreed!
The poor guy doesn't even get 15 minutes of peace to enjoy the honor before the attacks start. Do we live in a petty world or what?
Yeah. And they can go PFLiss up a rope too....
I guess the Cardinals don't subscribe to the Associated Press.
As an extremely conservative Lutheran (for now, LCMS), I concur.
The way I look at it, purely philosophically speaking, denominations that go the way of Sodom, in a strictly philosophical sense, must go the way of Lindisfarne (theologically speaking only). Traditions of men can be totally extirpated from the land if proven faulty.
If a denomination goes AWOL, time to burn the boats at the sea and move on inland in search of new land. Do not turn back.
Let the liberals implode due to their own illogic and defiance of nature and of nature's God.
2 Timothy 4:3,4 - For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own desires they gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
You don't have to b Catholic to love a man who stands up for God, family, and a loving way of life!
All the liberals' greatest fears have just been realized.
On the contrary, I feel extremely hopeful.
"Religious leaders like Ratzinger cannot dictate to us what our family values must be, particularly when their idea of family values excludes all GLBT people and loved ones,"
That would be the unerring word of God doing the dictating there, Einstein. I, too, am a Southern Baptist and on this, I'm in complete agreement with the Pope.
First rule: no pooftahs.
He has all the right enemies.
I nominate it for best line of the month!
"First rule: no pooftahs."
LOL Thanks, Bruce!
[snort!]
Must of have been the right choice, as it is pissing off the right people all the way around.
I think the homosexuals are most upset becasue this pope signals that the catholic church has definitly stopped the homosexual incursion into the leadership AND just perhaps they have permanently indicated the mainline church will push back the homosexuals.
IN related stories, the FL Bare is most likely not going to sanction homosexual efforts to allow homosexual adoption via foster care.
AND
TX Senate has started to push to prohibit homosexuals from foster parenting.
AND did not some state just pass a referendum to protect marriage in the last month?
It's easier to return fire when you can see where the fire is coming from.
Why, I ask? Why can't the Catholic church just assume the model that the main stream media would find acceptable...........?
Well put.
Zackly.
" PFAG's Executive Director Jody Huckaby, a homosexual former Catholic, in a statement."
As a former Catholic why does she care what the Pope has to say? I guess that along with homosexuals and pedophiles dictating Catholic doctorine, we may as well let jihadis get in on the act too.
I was thinking of the same, exact verse.
Good call, good post.
First priority: God and His Truth (not the world's)
Love and Honor your parents, as you are enabled. Try to love your neighbor as yourself (in some cases, this is the tricky part, but it is still a Command).
While Hanoi Jane has been going around making nice and claiming to have apologized to Vietnam veterans, she had to attack someone. Read here what she said on Hardball last Friday about Pope John Paul II (whom I miss dearly):
MATTHEWS: That‘s great. And I think, when you read the New Testament, that‘s great. And I agree with you.
Thank you. What else can I—were you watching the burial of the pope last week? Did you pay much attention to that?
FONDA: I did.
MATTHEWS: What did it say to you?
(CROSSTALK)
FONDA: It was inescapable.
Well, it said to me that there was much about him that was, from my point of view, wonderful. And there was much about him that caused tremendous suffering for women.
MATTHEWS: Yes.
FONDA: I do not agree with his positions on women. And I wish that I could have taken him to Third World countries, so that he could see, as I wish I could President Bush, the effects of the gag rule and the depriving women of the right to determine their reproductive lives and how it is killing them and destroying their health.
MATTHEWS: Yes. So, you think that women should be allowed to have abortions, right, in every part of the world?
(CROSSTALK)
FONDA: I think women should be allowed. I think that women should be allowed to determine whether or not they have a child. Women know the best whether they are capable of raising a child to be a productive citizen.
MATTHEWS: OK.
Well, thank you very much. You‘ve stated your position here clearly.
And you‘ve been fun.
(LAUGHTER)
FONDA: Thank you, Chris.
I'll see your "snort" and raise you a "chortle."
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