[presidio9]

I am trying to finf Michael Fumento's excellent editorial from yesterday's NY Post, which makes the points that heterosexual transmission of AIDS is virtually impossible, but have thus far been unsuccessful.

[presidio9]

PING

[olde north church]

I have a better way than condoms to stop the transmission of AIDS, problem is, men have got to stop porking each other in the ass.

[kjvail]

Well besides the theological issues of placing a barrier between the partners in the conjugal act, condoms provide a false sense of security since many of the cheaper ones have air holes much larger than the HIV virus. They are impermable to sperm but the virus goes right thru it.
Abstinence and monogamy - work every time they are tried.

[John Jorsett]

I am trying to finf Michael Fumento's excellent editorial from yesterday's NY Post, which makes the points that heterosexual transmission of AIDS is virtually impossible, but have thus far been unsuccessful.

Michael Fumento: The African AIDS myth? (Pain in the neck registration required. I suggest a trip to BugMeNot.com)

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: ""I'd like to follow the Church's teachings, but with condoms you can stay safe," she said. "Maybe I'm already sick, but I don't think so. You have to survive and look for money.""

Honey lamb, being a Whore is not a teaching of the Catholic Church! I am surprised no one mentioned this to you before. Gee I really wonder if the condom issue is a desire of Catholics in Africa or liberal pseudo-Catholics in NYC and San Fran?

[Bostton1]

Rose was raised as a good Catholic schoolgirl by her grandparents, but now the 18-year-old orphan survives by selling sex in a Ugandan slum with scant regard for the teachings of the church.
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But, out of everything, The Church's teachings on condom use, are still a high priority for her. LOL

[B Knotts]

It is absurd for these "activists" to suggest that on the one hand, people are unwilling to go against the Church's teaching on contraception, while being perfectly willing to engage in extramarital, promiscuous sex.

There is another agenda at work here, folks. This isn't about Africa, either.

[A CA Guy]

In Africa, there is lots of hetero transmission of AIDS because they are not clean people and often have open sores on their bodies.

[Always Right]

If they don't listen to Catholic teaching about sex outside of marriage, why do they care about what Catholics teach about condoms????

[mikrofon]

While abstinence may sound fine in theory, activists say poverty forces many young people in ( Africa | S.America | America's inner cities ) into selling ( sex | drugs | contraband ) just to survive, making it impossible for them to avoid ( intercourse | addiction | a life of crime ).

It seems that during earlier depression times when poverty was much more stark, you didn't hear about morals going out the window on a widespread basis just to "survive"...

[little jeremiah]

Ping to self for later pingout.

[krb]

Africa Activists Want Catholics to Back Condoms

Too bad you never see this headline:

Catholics want Africans to stop having so much sex with strangers.

[Mr Ramsbotham]

Have condoms made a difference among atheists?

[Tax-chick]

It was on Townhall.com.

[Southern Federalist]

While abstinence may sound fine in theory, activists say poverty forces many young people in Africa into selling sex just to survive, making it impossible for them to avoid intercourse.

The Left wants to give Rose a condom, so she can be a whore more safely. The Right wants to give Rose a job so she doesn't have to be a whore.

Now remind me: who is that wants to address the "root causes" of poverty?

[Scotswife]

The crazy thing is...if everyone followed the teachings of the Church - AIDS would be nonexistent.
In that sense you could call the Church's teaching "progressive"
The closer we get to it the less AIDS will be a problem

[Antoninus]

Way to go Reuters for trying to set the Vatican straight on a moral issue. After all, when I face a moral dilemma, I go straight to Reuters to find out what to do.

/sarcasm

[RobbyS]

Condoms is, after all, primarily a birth control devise. Since AIDS has increasingly spread among black populations in the Unbited States, where condoms are readily accessible, then does it not stand to reason that the main problem is the manner and frequency of sexual intercourse?

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes Ping.

I've read of organizations which help women (and children) escape from prostitution. They get education, medical help, a place to live, and the children are taken care of, often in orphanages. I've read about them in Thailand, and I'm sure there are other places as well.

Instead of condoms, these poor souls need to escape from the gutter. Whether it's their "fault" or not, they need help to escape and live a peaceful life. Religious organizations would be ideal to help in this way.

People just want the Catholic Church to be destroyed, that's all. The unchangeable moral absolutes it stands for make people uncomfortable.

Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.

[LibertarianInExile]

Catholics want Africa Activists to Back Off

[Smokin' Joe]

Rose was raised as a good Catholic schoolgirl by her grandparents, but now the 18-year-old orphan survives by selling sex in a Ugandan slum with scant regard for the teachings of the church.

"I'd like to follow the Church's teachings, but with condoms you can stay safe," she said.

Hang the fact that fornication is not exactly on the 'DO' list....

[syriacus]

1. Africa Activists Want Catholics to Back Condoms
2. Some activists say the church is less influential than it seems. ..People don't often listen to what they are told in church

Basic contradiction alert!!

Is the Church influential, or not influential?

[Mr. Silverback]

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

[Mr. Silverback]

Additional note: Don't miss the links in post 36.

[Mr. Silverback]

The condom question also confronts Catholics with a dilemma: those who defy the church hierarchy to champion condom use in the belief it will save lives run the risk of becoming pariahs within their own parishes.

Let's take this out of the realm of sex and death, and look at it for a moment.

Let's say that I looked around and saw that after 40 years of the Great Society silliness, I see that the poor are still poor despite our best efforts. So I start telling people it's OK to steal if you're very poor. Just pick somebody rich and rob them blind.

I'll bet I'd quickly become a pariah in my church, and no number of Leftist activists crying out against the mean, nasty tenets of Christianity would change that.

Plus, trying to prevent AIDS with condoms is like having seatbelts made of spaghetti.

[SuziQ]

While abstinence may sound fine in theory, activists say poverty forces many young people in Africa into selling sex just to survive, making it impossible for them to avoid intercourse.

Instead of pushing condoms, why aren't the governments addressing the problems of improving their economies so that jobs will be created?

It also sounds like those who are pushing the condom idea aren't worried about the Church's teachings about anything else, why the condoms? The young women who are prostitutes might as well go ahead and have their clients use condoms, I mean, the situation is sinful already, the use of condoms isn't going to make it any worse.