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Posted on 04/15/2005 4:56:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
You appear to believe that "law" is synonymous with "statute".
Roy Moore never attempted to create a law, nor did he advocate a law, making the ten Commandments paramount to other religious dogma.
Moral Absolutes Ping.
Dicussion regarding Judge Moore and the 10 Commandments.
Just a couple of quotes in connection with the 10 Commandments:
"No man is a good citizen unless he so acts as to show that he
actually uses the Ten Commandments, and translates the Golden
Rule into his life conduct." --Theodore Roosevelt
“We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us ... to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.” -James Madison
"If men will not be governed by the Ten Commandments, they shall be governed by the ten thousand commandments." --G. K. Chesterton
Let me know if you want on/off this pinglist.
Evidently, the last time you looked you didn't see the entries for "common law", "statutory law", or "administrative law".
Now, is there a point you would care to make? Or am I to just sit back in the splendor of your awe-inspiring intellect?
Moore was removed. Impeachment is when Congress acts against a judge or executive. Moore was removed by judicial "self-policing," yet another example of judicial activism, this time internecine.
He was impeached (accused or charged with wrongdoing) before he was removed.
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The Constitution forbids the government from interfering with religion.
It does not restrict the religious from influencing government.
The 1st Amendment quite clearly restricts our legislators from making any law "respecting an establishment of religion".
Agreed, religious men are free to "influence" [urge/induce], but officials sworn to support the Constitution are not free to make law based on or 'influenced' [caused] by the establishments of specific religions.
I was just being anal. He was not impeached, in the proper technical use of the word "impeached," in the context of conduct that warrants consideration of removal from office. He was "charged," by Alabama's Judicial Inquiry Commission, with violating ethical canons by disobeying a federal court order.
Had the "charge" come from the Alabama Congress, Moore would have been "impeached." Then comes a trial on the charges, and the remedy (usually removal, sometimes with the added taint of being ineligable for office in the future).
That is not what the establishment of religion means. The Bill of Rights forbids the "establishment" of a national religion, nothing more. Establishment would be the creation of a new religion through legislation. Passing legislation based on the teaching of religion is not the establishment of a national religion.
Consider the constitution of one of the origial 13. Framed August 14, 1776, and completed November 11, 1776.
XXXIII. That, as it is the duty of every man to worship God in such manner as he thinks most acceptable to him; all persons, professing the Christian religion, are equally entitled to protection in their religious liberty; wherefore no person ought by any law to be molested in his person or estate on account of his religious persuasion or profession, or for his religious practice; unless, under colour of religion, any man shall disturb the good order, peace or safety of the State, or shall infringe the laws of morality, or injure others, in their natural, civil, or religious rights; nor ought any person to be compelled to frequent or maintain, or contribute, unless on contract, to maintain any particular place of worship, or any particular ministry; yet the Legislature may, in their discretion, lay a general and equal tax for the support of the Christian religion; leaving to each individual the power of appointing the payment over of the money, collected from him, to the support of any particular place of worship or minister, or for the benefit of the poor of his own denomination, or the poor in general of any particular county: but the churches, chapels, globes, and all other property now belonging to the church of England, ought to remain to the church of England forever. And all acts of Assembly, lately passed, for collecting monies for building or repairing particular churches or chapels of ease, shall continue in force, and be executed, unless the Legislature shall, by act, supersede or repeal the same: but no county court shall assess any quantity of tobacco, or sum of money, hereafter, on the application of any vestrymen or church-wardens; and every encumbent of the church of England, who hath remained in his parish, and performed his duty, shall be entitled to receive the provision and support established by the act, entitled "An act for the support of the clergy of the church of England, in this Province," till the November court of this present year to be held for the county in which his parish shall lie, or partly lie, or for such time as he hate remained in his parish, and performed his duty.
From another of the original 13, February 5, 1777. This clause specifies who can be a representative for the state:
ART. VI. The representatives shall be chosen out of the residents in each county, who shall have resided at least twelve months in this State, and three months in the county where they shall be elected; except the freeholders of the counties of Glynn and Camden, who are in a state of alarm, and who shall have the liberty of choosing one member each, as specified in the articles of this constitution, in any other county, until they have residents sufficient to qualify them for more; and they shall be of the Protestent religion, and of the age of twenty-one years, and shall be possessed in their own right of two hundred and fifty acres of land, or some property to the amount of two hundred and fifty pounds.
little jeremiah,
This is apparently a false quote.
Well, I won't use it any more - until further notice.
OTOH, the organization linked to is a nasty leftist God-hating organization - Americans United for Separation of Church and State - Barry Lynn's, if I'm not mistaken.
Yep, but they have a quote from the editors of Madison's papers which seems authentic.
Can you put me on your Moral Absolutes ping list, by the way?
We can influence the press here online, as well. Right now, the press is all for post-structuralism, multiculturalism, and the moral relativism that accompanies those two world views. We can show them that most Americans, even immigrants, don't share those relativist values.
Certainly.
He was elected by good citizens, he was taken out of office by others.
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
- John Adams, October 11, 1798
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